[OpenMaw]

Captain Awesome, on 24 June 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

The unlimited ammo in old huds referred to the kick.

In some of the shots the pistol is selected when the Unlimited Ammo is highlighted.

[Come On And Slam]

MrFlibble, on 25 June 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

On a somewhat unrelated note, I remember there's a level in LameDuke where you can find the Sonic Resonator in a secret room but you can't pick it up.

Yeah, it acts like a wall and you can't pass through it or pick it up. I think it was in the fourth episode, but I can't remember what level it was on.

[MrFlibble]

Slippy_Pig, on 25 June 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Yeah, it acts like a wall and you can't pass through it or pick it up. I think it was in the fourth episode, but I can't remember what level it was on.

IIRC tt's the same level as the one this screenshot comes from (don't remember the title though):


The level itself is one of my favourites

[NNC]

OK, I don't know where to post this, and I'm not sure if this is really legal or ethical, but since I couldn't make any contact with Levelord, I did it by myself.

This link consists of the two unfinished levelord levels, Sweeney and Sewer, finalized by me. Fixed many bugs, including corrupted or missing sounds, a few graphical glitches, badly functioning door in Sweeney etc etc... But the main difference is the redone gameplay, enemy and weapon placement is like what we used to see in the original game. The formerly released versions have wrong skill settings as well, as you start with Let's Rock, you really get the Come Get Some setting.

 levelordextra.rar (58.46K)
Number of downloads: 889

Sorry for those who dislike the idea, but I think it's kinda fun to play these levels really finished.

[Mikko]

I always considered them finished, even if a bit on the hard side.

[zykov eddy]

Just finished the sewerplus.map and noticed two important bugs that hasn't been fixed. First is the glass that you can shoot through (This bug always annoyed me). Second is the weird elevator in the sewer.

[NNC]

zykov eddy, on 24 July 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

Just finished the sewerplus.map and noticed two important bugs that hasn't been fixed. First is the glass that you can shoot through (This bug always annoyed me). Second is the weird elevator in the sewer.

I haven't discovered that glass glitch, really never ever tried to shoot through them , but fixed it. However I don't know which elevator do you refer to? The one with the yellow key door or the one that triggers an explosion to the red key area? I think they are fine.

I don't know if this worth further uploads as these levels are not my maps by any means, my only goal was to fix the bugs and add better gameplay to the levels. Any report is welcome though.

[zykov eddy]

Nancsi, on 24 July 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

. However I don't know which elevator do you refer to? The one with the yellow key door or the one that triggers an explosion to the red key area? I think they are fine.

I used the elevator again and this time it worked fine. When I used it the first time, it got stuck on the top. Weird

[NNC]

Just keep it on the topic of Sewer and Sweeney maps, did anyone else get the impression that these maps are not entirely levelordish, and they are both different to the standard city maps of E3?? Something tells me there are some Allen H Blum in both maps, and that is more evident in the superior Sewer.

There are a couple of things you don't see in Levelord's city maps:

- keyslot 1 (which have been used in E1 and E4)
- automatically moving sectors (that is very typical AHB, and you have many of them in these two)
- sprites like fire hydrants, toilets, rubber cans, fire etinguishers with fire sign next to them (toilets aside you can find all of these in Sewer)
- sewers actually, there are none of it in E3
- earthquakes with spawned jibs (well, actually you can see that in the helicopter crash, and in the "quake site", but not with random explosions, again it's more AHB-esque)
- in Build, the monster size is generally 48:40 in Levelord maps, but these has 40:40.

Also, both maps, and especially Sewer have the atmosphere of E1. The level is more realistic looking, and has more ambience. Levelord's levels are about brute force, and intense gameplay.

With that said the levels still has some levelordish style as well, like trashcans with items and enemies in them, Cola and Snacks machines, elevators protected by slide doors etc. Inmy opinion these 2 unreleased levels were cooperatively done by both authors. Maybe that's the reason they have been left in the cold.

[LeoD]

Nancsi, on 29 July 2012 - 01:47 AM, said:

Something tells me there are some Allen H Blum in both maps

Something tells me no AHB stuff is contained: sewer.txt and sweeney.txt. Why would Levelord omit crediting him?
Your maps played fine, btw. I couldn't remember serious flaws in the originals tbh., but I'm quite lenient towards little shortcomings.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, and Levelord had to ask 3DR to release these maps.

[Hendricks266]

Nancsi, on 29 July 2012 - 01:47 AM, said:

- sewers actually, there are none of it in E3

Not even Flood Zone --> LA Rumble?

[Fox]

Bank Roll, Freeway...

[Inspector Lagomorf]

Quote

Something tells me there are some Allen H Blum in both maps ... With that said the levels still has some levelordish style as well

It would be fair to say that, when developing the levels for the original game, Levelord and Allen Blum had practically identical styles.

[NNC]

Hendricks266, on 29 July 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

Not even Flood Zone --> LA Rumble?

I meant green, hurtful sewers. The flow in Flood Zone is just normal water. The Bank Roll stuff is electricity.

Anyway, this was mostly speculation. We all know the E4 controversy, so this can happen anytime. No matter what, Sewer is a map fits much more to the E1 style than to the E3 style.

[Fox]

I disagree. Their style are clearly of Episode 3 for me. And Levelord created maps with waste, like The Abyss or Critical Mass.

[NNC]

Fox, on 30 July 2012 - 02:15 AM, said:

I disagree. Their style are clearly of Episode 3 for me. And Levelord created maps with waste, like The Abyss or Critical Mass.

It doesn't really matter, just a shame these stuff were left out of the game.

[Fox]

If anyone want to know, it seems based on 0.99 demo that Sewers and Sweeney actual titles are "The Sewers Below" and "Sewage Company" respectively.

Also Sweeney would come after Bank Roll, and followed by Sewers, which would lead you to what probably is Rabid Transit.

definelevelname 2 1 E3L2.map 00:00 S.P.E.R.M. BANK
definelevelname 2 2 E3L3.map 00:00 SEWAGE COMPANY
definelevelname 2 3 E3L4.map 00:00 THE SEWERS BELOW
definelevelname 2 4 E3L5.map 00:00 RTD SUBWAY

[Hendricks266]

RTD = Rapid (Rabid) Transit District

[Fox]

I have been extracting the sounds from Duke Nukem Total Meltdown PMP files. First of all, it is a little confusing because there are plenty of sounds that are not used in the actual maps. One example is Faces of Death which is full of sounds despite being a very short level with only one kind of enemy, and there are quotes like "God Damn Aliens!" and "Never meet an alien I couldn't kill!".

About the new enemies, the Pig-in-a-Dress, Underwater Drone and Zombie Pigcop got an entire new set of sounds, while the last one is missing two files. They all have "recog" sounds, but they are not played in the actual game. As you can imagine, the Cyber-keef simply use the same sounds as the Battlelord.

The Magnum P.I.G. doesn't just have any new sound, but in fact, there is no pig cop sound at all in E1L6.pmp. Since in Ministry of Fear there are tons of enemies shooting you, I never realized the Magnum P.I.G. was inaudible, including the shotgun. Meaning that they have as far as creating a definition equivalent to PIG_ATTACK but didn't linked it to a sound file. In other words, the sounds are in defs.con but missing from user.con.

[Fox]

I have already listed all sounds inside the .pmp files from Total Meltdown. For now here is a list of the Duke quotes based on the first .pmp file each sound is found.

You will realize that a lot of the .pmp files the sounds are avaiable doesn't make any sense. But it's like that with all sounds. I think I never heard of the last line before, and I suspect it was meant to be the line Duke would say to Cyber-keef, similar to how he does for the second and third bosses.

E1L1.pmp 	"Where is it?"
E1L1.pmp 	"Ahhh..."
E1L1.pmp 	"Hmm... don't have time to play with myself."
E1L1.pmp 	"Damn, those alien bastards are gonna pay for shooting up my ride."
E1L1.pmp 	"Hehehe... what a mess."
E1L1.pmp 	"Oooh, I needed that."
E1L1.pmp 	"Ahhh... much better."
E1L1.pmp 	"Damnit."
E1L1.pmp 	"Fire in the hole, asshole!"
E1L1.pmp 	"They don't make em' better than me"
E1L1.pmp 	"Cool."
E1L1.pmp 	"What are you waitin' for? Christmas?"
E1L1.pmp 	"Bitchin'."
E1L1.pmp 	"Holy cow!"
E1L1.pmp 	"Holy shit!"
E1L1.pmp 	"Groovy!"
E1L1.pmp 	"Suck it down!"
E1L1.pmp 	"Damn I'm good."
E1L1.pmp 	"See you in Hell!"
E1L1.pmp 	"Let God sort 'em out."
E1L1.pmp 	"Come get some."
E1L1.pmp 	"Blow it out your ass!"
E1L1.pmp 	"Yeah, piece of cake!"
E1L1.pmp 	"Who wants some?"
E1L1.pmp 	"Eat shit and die."
E1L1.pmp 	"Ooh, that's gotta hurt."
E1L2.pmp 	"You wanna dance?"
E1L2.pmp 	"Shake it baby."
E1L3.pmp 	"I think I'll climb aboard."
E1L3.pmp 	"Hmm... that's one Doomed space marine."
E1L4.pmp	"I should have known those alien maggots booby-trapped the sub."
E1L5.pmp	"I'm Duke Nukem, and I'm coming to get the rest of you alien bastards."
E1L6.pmp	"Let's rock."
E1L6.pmp	"Ready for action."
E1L6.pmp	"Gonna rip 'em a new one."
E1L6.pmp	"Your face, your ass, what's the difference?"
E1L6.pmp	"It's down to you and me, you one-eyed freak!"
E1L6.pmp	"Hail to the king baby."
E2L1.pmp	"Nobody steals our chicks... and lives."
E2L3.pmp	"Hmm... looks like I have the con."
E2L10.pmp	"God damn aliens."
E2L10.pmp	"Never meet an alien I couldn't kill."
E3L1.pmp 	"Born to be wiiiild!"
E3L1.pmp 	"It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of gum."
E3L1.pmp 	"This pisses me off."
E3L4.pmp 	"I ain't afraid of no Quake."
E3L5.pmp 	"Damn, that's the second time those alien bastards shot up my ride."
E3L10.pmp 	"You outta here."
E3L10.pmp 	"Suck on this!"
E3L10.pmp 	"So many assholes, so few bullets."
E3L11.pmp 	"Terminated."
E3L11.pmp 	"Squeal piggy, squeal!"
E3L11.pmp 	"Haha... makin' bacon!"
E4L3.pmp 	"Shit happens."
E4L6.pmp 	"Nobody wears flares... and lives."

[Gambini]

Diaz, on 21 May 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

PC Mania even had a section dedicated to level design (it was called "tiempo real") and they were using BUILD for some time... I actually got into BUILD due to this magazine, as I didn't have access to the Internet back then. Too bad they later switched to Worldcraft

Late reply

The only reaon of why I began to buy PC Mania, and the main reason of why I kept buying it for years was Tiempo Real. Jose M. Muñoz attemped to teach several level editors, such as Unrealed, Makemap for RR and Radiant. I never needed to be taught about how to use Build, but still loved to read the tutorials and specially the forum. Sent maps twice to him (n*54 and n*76 IIRC) and the latter was commented.

[DNSKILL5]

I was toying with the Assault trooper glitch. The one where if you shrink them and then freeze them as they're shrunk, they turn into little toy sized versions that still fight you. If you then freeze yourself, and he kills you, you drop an atomic health. Has anyone ever had this happen? Maybe this isn't new news, but it is to me.

They're this size.


OT- Has anyone found a way to rip the DNTM sound files?

[rasmus thorup]

That's... weird?

[Fox]

gerolf, on 09 August 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

OT- Has anyone found a way to rip the DNTM sound files?

I already did, like I posted before.

[Fox]

I fucked things up to play Plug and Pray in death-match.

(sorry about the ladders glitch)


Never seen before multiplayer only button in Nightmare Zone.

[Fox]

I am just pasting some posts of me from another place. I am going to break it apart because of stupid image limit...


Leftover content in Duke Nukem 64 ROM - Part 1

Spoiler

Leftover content in Duke Nukem 64 ROM


Unusued sounds


There is one unusued sound in the game. Here is a list of the new sounds compared to the PC version, with the proper IDs:

256-263 - New Duke lines
264-266 - Plasma Cannon firing
267 - Grenade Launcher firing
268 - SMG firing
269 - Unknow
270 - Babe saved
271 - Plasma Cannon projectile explosion
272-276 - Bullet hit wall

The unusued sound

For comparison, this video shows a man firing rubber bullets:



Unusued graphics


I am not going to talk about graphics left-over from the PC version, since there are tons of these and they don't matter.


Babes hatching

Tiles 1294-1295, 3821-3824


Only the fourth and last sprites are used in the game. Interestingly, the game actually displays the first frame of the hatching animation, instead of the actual babe sprite. For comparison the sprites from PC:



The same goes for the other babes (only the first and last sprites are used):

Tiles 3805-3809


Tiles 3821-3824



Assault Trooper frames

Tiles 1700-1702


These tiles are also not used for the enemy in the PC version too, but in this case they have created new sprites for it.


Pistol clip

Tile 2531


This new sprite was meant to be part of the pistol reloading animation, but is not used in the 64 version.


SMG muzzle flash

Tile 2539


It has the exact same size of the muzzle flash used for the Pistol and SMG in the actual version.


Menu font characters

Tiles 3004-3009


There are more characters that are technically never used in the English version (such as letter "Z"), but since the texts are meant to be translated in other regions, I am not going to include characters that are absent only because none of them are present in any text of the game.

In the case of the characters in the picture above, even if you edit the texts in the ROM with a HEX editor, they are not going to be displayed. For example, the interrogation mark is actually present in some of the texts, but it is missing in the game.


Gamepad

Tile 3596 (NOTE: the bottom of the graphic is cut because I could only rip part of it)


The format of the the image is that of sprites displayed above the screen. Probably it was meant to be used in the control setup options. For comparsion, here is a screenshot from the PSX port:

[Fox]

Leftover content in Duke Nukem 64 ROM - Part 2

Spoiler

Smoke

Tile 3637


The above is placed beetween the Grenade Launcher sprites. Perhaps it was intended to be used for the "Gas Grenades"?


Explosions

Tiles 3673, 3690, 3702


The first one is close (but not identical) to the circle of fire of the 3D explosions.


Crosshairs

Tiles 3703-3707


These crosshairs do not appear in the game, since the game only has one type. However in Duke Nukem: Zero Hour there are different crosshairs. Since only one of the above is actually serious, I guess it was meant to be used only via a Cheat Code or something.


Missile light

Tile 3724


Still can be seen in early videos of the game:




Train part

Tile 3733


Unusued door texture for the train in Rabid Transit.


Sparkles

Tiles 3763-3765


Similar to the effects left by babes or enemies killed by the Plasma Cannon. Perhaps using one sprite for each particle would consume too much CPU?


Bullet hit

Tiles 3815-3820


This one is very similar to the one used in the actual game, but is somewhat different, the edges are cut and also use a transparent background.

For comparsion, here is the actual sprite set used in the game:




Bookcase

Tiles 3863-3866


Replica of the bookcase seen through the game. Since it is divided in 4 pieces, the resolution is not compressed. The Playbook magazine with a naked woman on the cover can be seen on the top left of the screen, even if with some difficulty.

[Fox]

Leftover content in Duke Nukem 64 ROM - Part 3

Spoiler

Truck part

Tile 3896


What appears to be a window located among the textures for the truck in Gun Crazy and Duke-Burger.


SMG muzzle flash

Tile 3918


Early muzzle flash sprite for the SMG. Can still be seen in early screenshots:




Unknow circle

Tile 3920


Unknow sprite. Since it has a black background, it was probably meant to be used with transparecy effect.


Glitches

Tiles 3628, 3942


Poorly compressed copies of Pistol/SMG muzzle flash and the unusued unknow circle.


Unknow spot

Tile 3925


Unknow sprite. Seems to be meant to be used on top of the screen. It is located before the sprites for the intro scene.


Car parts

Tiles 3944-3945, 3949


Unusued textures for the car that appear on the very beggining of the first level.

[Fox]

Leftover content in Duke Nukem 64 ROM - Part 4

Spoiler

Graphics in early versions of the game


Early HUD



The left bar of the HUD is different from the final version.


Menu font



The font on the frag display (top left of the picture) is different from the white menu font seen in the final game.


Intro scene



This looks like a very unfinished job.


Shrinker



The weapon above looks more like an hybrid of the Shrinker and Expander sprites, meaning that they intended from the beggining to make the Expander a main weapons instead of a sub weapon like in the PC version.


Plasma Cannon



The Plasma Cannon was originally yellow like the Freezethrower. The tip of the weapon is also different.


Nukem Pimball



Apparently in some point the "Balls of Steel" text was censored. Perhaps they changed their minds when they found out that Balls of Steel is a real game?

While the Hollywood Holocaust from the actual version of the game uses a different texture for the Balls of Steel, this texture still exists however it says "Balls of Steel" like in the PC version.