[Daedolon]

What the hell is going on, I'm away for a month and we get an isometric view for 2D mode and model clipping?

[Danukem]

 Daedolon, on Dec 10 2010, 05:44 PM, said:

What the hell is going on, I'm away for a month and we get an isometric view for 2D mode and model clipping?

Yeah. Imagine what we could get if you would leave for a year.



j/k

[bullerbullerseven]

hehe. right now all it really does is giving you another view. but that can actually be useful. at least for me :S
that is the 3d view i am talking about

[VinsaneOne]

Finally, I now have a rig with enough balls to run Polymer!
It's fan-fuckin-tastic!

Setting video mode 1024x768 (32-bit fullscreen)
OpenGL Information:
Version: 2.1.2
Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer: GeForce 6100/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
Initializing Polymer subsystem...
PR : Board loaded.
PR : Initialization complete.
Initializing music...
Initializing sound...
EOF: EDuke32


Now going to enjoy playing all the Polymer maps I once avoided.....who needs DNF now? Not me! Hell, I can wait!

[Roma Loom]

Looks like the texture above the door is outdated. It was polymerized long time ago. I'd gladly doublechecked it but I don't recognize this map...

Actually thanks to The_Commander I've looked at this room in e1l2 and have to say that you don't have polymer HRP or it's very outdated:



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[High Treason]

Don't recognise? It's E1L2, how can you not recognise it?

[Roma Loom]

My first thought was that it's related to e1l2 but I've never looked at this door from this angle.

[The Commander]

It's the slope and the vent at the end that gives it away.

[MusicallyInspired]

You mean you've never went behind that counter to get the shotgun?

[The Commander]

I always stop there and check all my weapons because there is a sign stating me to do so.

[bullerbullerseven]

i have never seen the door from that side xD

[Mr.Deviance]

 VinsaneOne, on Dec 12 2010, 10:43 PM, said:

Finally, I now have a rig with enough balls to run Polymer!
It's fan-fuckin-tastic!

Now going to enjoy playing all the Polymer maps I once avoided.....who needs DNF now? Not me! Hell, I can wait!

Not sure if you care about it, but what you have there is either very outdated or not working properly.
But then again, with a geforce 6100, the newest version of polymer wouldn't probably run decent anyway.
But I'm just enforcing what has been said above, to confirm that what you are showing in that screenshot looks very outdated/broken.
There are no bumpmaps and the lighting is too bright.
Roma Loom's screenshot shows how the latest version of polymer looks like.

 Roma Loom, on Dec 13 2010, 10:15 AM, said:

My first thought was that it's related to e1l2 but I've never looked at this door from this angle.

You need to start playing some duke 3D man
I instantly recognized the door the second I saw it.
I've seen every door and every level of Duke 3D from all possible angles hundreds of times.
I would even recognize areas of duke 3d if they were untextured.

[LeoD]

 Mr.Deviance, on Dec 14 2010, 05:49 AM, said:

I've seen every door and every level of Duke 3D from all possible angles hundreds of times.
I would even recognize areas of duke 3d if they were untextured.

Sounds like first symptoms of the blackhart-disease.

[The Commander]

 Mr.Deviance, on Dec 14 2010, 05:49 PM, said:

I've seen every door and every level of Duke 3D from all possible angles hundreds of times.
I would even recognize areas of duke 3d if they were untextured.

Type in the console

r_pr_wireframe 1 and hit enter.

[Mr.Deviance]

 LeoD, on Dec 14 2010, 03:29 AM, said:

Sounds like first symptoms of the blackhart-disease.

I wasn't being ironic. I've literally played Duke 3D way too much, especially the first levels, I know them with my eyes closed.

[Mike Norvak]

I hav a question? What graphic card recommend me to run Polymer properly, i ´m looking for something below $170 (dollars) maybe too cheap? I´m running under Windows 7 32 bits , with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual core 6000+ at 3.00Ghz and 2Gb on RAM

[Plagman]

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?cli...ed=0CDsQ8wIwBA#

[Mike Norvak]

Okay Thanks! Now i'm gonna check what's the price in my country...

[Stabs]

or 9800gtx or gtx 260 or gts250/240

[Mike Norvak]

 DanM, on Dec 14 2010, 05:59 PM, said:

or 9800gtx or gtx 260 or gts250/240

Yeah i'm checking and the price for this product (GeForce GTX 460) is too expensive, near to double. So i think gtx9800 or 250 is the best (just about 165 -175 dollars)

And could i run poly fine with the system specifications pointed before?, u know, maps like those on Eternity ,etc.

[Stabs]

run with the gts250 if you can, its basically a more updated version of the 9800gtx

[Sobek]

I'd also note that you can tell something isn't right because the HUD model doesn't appear to have any lighting applied to it at all...

[VinsaneOne]

 Roma Loom, on Dec 13 2010, 12:37 PM, said:

Looks like the texture above the door is outdated. It was polymerized long time ago. I'd gladly doublechecked it but I don't recognize this map...

Actually thanks to The_Commander I've looked at this room in e1l2 and have to say that you don't have polymer HRP or it's very outdated:



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 Mr.Deviance, on Dec 13 2010, 11:49 PM, said:

Not sure if you care about it, but what you have there is either very outdated or not working properly.
But then again, with a geforce 6100, the newest version of polymer wouldn't probably run decent anyway.
But I'm just enforcing what has been said above, to confirm that what you are showing in that screenshot looks very outdated/broken.
There are no bumpmaps and the lighting is too bright.
Roma Loom's screenshot shows how the latest version of polymer looks like.


You need to start playing some duke 3D man http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/laugh.gif
I instantly recognized the door the second I saw it.
I've seen every door and every level of Duke 3D from all possible angles hundreds of times.
I would even recognize areas of duke 3d if they were untextured.

 Sobek, on Dec 14 2010, 07:44 PM, said:

I'd also note that you can tell something isn't right because the HUD model doesn't appear to have any lighting applied to it at all...

All I know is it looks real good to me compared to what I've been use to seeing all these years. An this......

......it's not that outdated as you see in the log below.

EDuke32 2.0.0devel 20100311
addsearchpath(): Added I:/DN3D/
OS: Windows XP (5.1.2600) Service Pack 1
Large page support available
Loading opengl32.dll
Loading glu32.dll
Initializing DirectDraw...
Using config file 'eduke32.cfg'.
Scanning for GRP files...
Using group file 'duke3d.grp' as main group file.
Using group file 'autoload/duke3d.grp/polymer_hrp.zip'.

[The Commander]

Your eduke version will soon be a year old, and your HRP is out of date.
Update your shit.

[Mr.Deviance]

 The Commander, on Dec 15 2010, 07:44 AM, said:

Your eduke version will soon be a year old, and your HRP is out of date.
Update your shit.

Dude, with a 6100 and with winxp sp1 the latest HRP would lag like shit.
The more you have, the more you want. If he's happy with that old version I think it can only mean good news for him. If that old version looks awesome for him and it also runs decent on his 6100, I think is better than have the latest version lag like shit.
I've tried the latest hrp with polymer on a 6600gt for the fuck of it, and it lags like shit on xp sp3 and win 7 x64. So imagine how a win xp sp1 with a 6100 would run the latest version...
I don't even want to think about it.

[Danukem]

Mr.Deviance, on Dec 15 2010, 07:57 AM, said:

Dude, with a 6100 and with winxp sp1 the latest HRP would lag like shit.
The more you have, the more you want. If he's happy with that old version I think it can only mean good news for him. If that old version looks awesome for him and it also runs decent on his 6100, I think is better than have the latest version lag like shit.
I've tried the latest hrp with polymer on a 6600gt for the fuck of it, and it lags like shit on xp sp3 and win 7 x64. So imagine how a win xp sp1 with a 6100 would run the latest version...
I don't even want to think about it.

He should at least get the latest eduke32.exe, though, because it will actually run better than the one from a year ago. Also, Polymer with no HRP doesn't look half bad.

[Mike Norvak]

VinsaneOne, on Dec 15 2010, 02:33 AM, said:

All I know is it looks real good to me compared to what I've been use to seeing all these years. An this......

Try the latest synthesis though : Eduke32 - 1734

[Sobek]

VinsaneOne, on Dec 15 2010, 07:03 PM, said:

All I know is it looks real good to me compared to what I've been use to seeing all these years. An this......

......it's not that outdated as you see in the log below.

EDuke32 2.0.0devel 20100311

That's OK, but just as a note, around August the new builds came into effect that supported HUD lighting and, for a lot of people, some pretty impressive performance improvements.

Definitely update to the newest release in Norvak's post above!

[Stabs]

on the bright side, you will be able to run DNF vinsane http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/smile.gif

[Mr.Deviance]

DanM, on Dec 15 2010, 06:53 PM, said:

on the bright side, you will be able to run DNF vinsane http://forums2.duke4...tyle_emoticons/default/smile.gif

Run DNF with and integrated geforce 6100 on winxp sp1? Are you on ethnobotanical supplements mate?
If the game will come out as a multiplatform game, they will most likely optimize it for multicore cpu's and make it require at least an 8800 gt and 2gb of ddr2 as it's absolute minimum requirements.
Trust me, when I tell you that nothing in this world will make a 6100 run DNF on winxp sp1.
My guess is that it won't even start due to old software to begin with and if by any chance the the os and other drivers get updated, the game will most likely error at launch due to missing shading or other rendering capabilities of that 6100.
If he has winxp sp1 and one year old eduke stuff, he most likely has outdated directx an drivers too.
That pc needs some serious update and upgrading, if he wants to even see one pixel of dnf on his screen.
And I'm saying this with absolutely no exaggeration or irony.