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#1952 Posted 01 December 2010 - 05:42 PM
Double tap F3, to see the orthogonal mode. Then "Q" and "W" will move the "camera" position...
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#1954 Posted 01 December 2010 - 05:50 PM
Jhect, on Dec 1 2010, 07:44 PM, said:
double tap?
I mean u need to press F3 two times, to change beetween normal 2d mode and orthogonal...
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BTW it´s possible to move the walls in this mode, right click to see what we are selecting:
and then hold right click to move the point...
This post has been edited by Norvak: 01 December 2010 - 05:53 PM
#1955 Posted 01 December 2010 - 05:56 PM
yea but i dont have to double tap it xD the curser/pointer you are moving are very annoying. its so hard to find the real wall you are pointing at, if you know what i mean. the yellow X on your picture.
and maybe some time it will be possible to drag the vertics instead of the walls only? i mean the ceiling vertic or floor vertic if you know what i mean? that would give some great opportunities!
and maybe some time it will be possible to drag the vertics instead of the walls only? i mean the ceiling vertic or floor vertic if you know what i mean? that would give some great opportunities!
This post has been edited by Jhect: 01 December 2010 - 05:58 PM
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#1956 Posted 01 December 2010 - 08:57 PM
The ability to view the map depends as we all know on the position of the camera, which is limited to the x-y plane on the grid square. This means that at some angles when sections of the map appear outside the grid, you can't have a close look at it.
Likewise, if you went purely side on, the camera can't be moved up and down, and it would be impossible to have a close up side on look at any part of the map which doesn't lie on or near the same plane as the grid itself at z coord 0. I.e I can't look at the main part of my map in the attached image.
Oh and Norvak's right, vertices can be moved, but it's the most awkward thing ever. I guess I shouldn't complain until Helixhorned has had more of a chance to work on the controls like he said.
Likewise, if you went purely side on, the camera can't be moved up and down, and it would be impossible to have a close up side on look at any part of the map which doesn't lie on or near the same plane as the grid itself at z coord 0. I.e I can't look at the main part of my map in the attached image.
Oh and Norvak's right, vertices can be moved, but it's the most awkward thing ever. I guess I shouldn't complain until Helixhorned has had more of a chance to work on the controls like he said.
This post has been edited by Micky C: 01 December 2010 - 08:58 PM
#1957 Posted 02 December 2010 - 01:46 AM
the problems i have with lastest builds and polymer hrp:
1.this problem:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2189/ed...20123041814.jpg
2.the game crashing randomly.
3.the game slow on my nice computer.
4.all other ati card problems (only liner and nearest textures filters work etc..)
when you will fix it? i really want to finsih the game with polymer hrp but this problems really annoy me.. (especialy the crashing problem) so.. yeah.. plz try to fix this problems and most important the crashing problem! thanks!
1.this problem:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2189/ed...20123041814.jpg
2.the game crashing randomly.
3.the game slow on my nice computer.
4.all other ati card problems (only liner and nearest textures filters work etc..)
when you will fix it? i really want to finsih the game with polymer hrp but this problems really annoy me.. (especialy the crashing problem) so.. yeah.. plz try to fix this problems and most important the crashing problem! thanks!
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#1958 Posted 02 December 2010 - 03:46 AM
Answers:
1. That's known about, they're working on it. If you looked around you'd have known other people had posted about it.
2, 3, 4. ATI cards don't do well with openGL like what Duke uses. Plagman (eduke32 developer) has sent in bug reports to the official driver engineering team at ATI so it's up to them to do the rest. If you want to be more assured that the game will run smoother, get an nVidia.
Ok maybe points 2 and 3 were exaggerated somewhat against ATI. It helps if you post up your eduke32.log file which is created in the same folder as eduke32.exe after every game, so if it crashes, post up the log.
Oh yeah and as of this typing, polymer (the new 32 bit openGL renderer) is unoptimized and not even finished. It runs slow even on moderately decent computers, slower than you'd think at least. So even if you have a 'nice' computer you need a "nice" computer.
1. That's known about, they're working on it. If you looked around you'd have known other people had posted about it.
2, 3, 4. ATI cards don't do well with openGL like what Duke uses. Plagman (eduke32 developer) has sent in bug reports to the official driver engineering team at ATI so it's up to them to do the rest. If you want to be more assured that the game will run smoother, get an nVidia.
Ok maybe points 2 and 3 were exaggerated somewhat against ATI. It helps if you post up your eduke32.log file which is created in the same folder as eduke32.exe after every game, so if it crashes, post up the log.
Oh yeah and as of this typing, polymer (the new 32 bit openGL renderer) is unoptimized and not even finished. It runs slow even on moderately decent computers, slower than you'd think at least. So even if you have a 'nice' computer you need a "nice" computer.
#1959 Posted 02 December 2010 - 04:04 AM
ok i played eduke32.debug until the game crashed and here is a log:
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oh and that crash is like the game freeze and than i do ctrl+alt+del and i have "eduke stopped working"..
EDuke32 2.0.0devel 20100727 Using C:/Users/Dor/Desktop/eduke32_win32_20101201-1731/ for game data Windows 7 (build 6.1.7600) Initializing DirectDraw... Searching for game data... Using C:/Users/Dor/Desktop/eduke32_win32_20101201-1731/DukePlus/ for game data Using 'duke3d.grp' as main game data file. Using file 'autoload/duke3d_sc55.zip' as game data. Using file 'autoload/polymer_hrp162.zip' as game data. Using file 'autoload/polymer_mhk.zip' as game data. Compiling: EDUKE.CON (36 bytes) Including: DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON (410671 bytes) Using DEF file: dukeplus.def. Wrote eduke32.cfg Wrote settings.cfg Using config file 'DukePlus/dp.cfg'. Including: DEFS.CON (35992 bytes) Including: USER.CON (45482 bytes) Including: DukePlus/dpcons/DEFSPLUS.CON (54304 bytes) Including: DukePlus/dpcons/USERPLUS.CON (58072 bytes) Including: DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON (26026 bytes) DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON: In state `paltoRGB': DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON:839: warning: duplicate case ignored. Including: DukePlus/dukebike/DUKEBIKE.CON (88071 bytes) Including: DukePlus/dpcons/HUDPLUS.CON (67064 bytes) Including: DukePlus/dpcons/PLAYERPLUS.CON (125370 bytes) Including: DukePlus/dpcons/MONSTERPLUS.CON (230388 bytes) Found 1 warning(s), 0 error(s). Resizing code buffer to 125726*4 bytes Script compiled in 311ms, 125718*4b, version 1.4+ 3011/11264 labels, 749/2048 variables 307 quotes, 46 strings, 40 events, 428 actors Initialized 24.0M cache Loading 'dukeplus.def' warning: defined hightile replacement for empty tile 9000. Maybe some tiles???.art are not loaded? warning: defined hightile replacement for empty tile 9001. Definitions file 'dukeplus.def' loaded. RTS file DUKE.RTS was not found Initializing OSD... Initializing DirectInput... - Enumerating attached game controllers - No game controllers found Uninitializing DirectInput... Executing "DukePlus/dp_settings.cfg" Disabling desktop composition... Setting video mode 1280x1024 (32-bit fullscreen) Enabling ATI FBO color attachment workaround. OpenGL Information: Version: 4.0.10317 Compatibility Profile Context Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. Renderer: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series gltexinvalidateall() gltexinvalidate8() Cache contains 47476 bytes of garbage data Initializing Polymer subsystem... PR : Initialization complete. Initializing music... Initializing sound... gltexinvalidateall() gltexinvalidate8() Caching "highres/screen/menu/2503.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2953.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2944.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2962.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2946.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2940.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2952.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2954.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2955.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2959.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2948.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2958.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2951.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2943.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2947.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2942.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2957.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2956.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2960.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/menu/2813.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/menu/2817.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/menu/2816.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/3002.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2964.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2941.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2950.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2961.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/2945.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! Caching "highres/screen/fonts/redfont/3022.png" Error: glGetTexLevelParameteriv returned GL_FALSE! PR : Board loaded. Loaded map hack file '/E1L1.mhk'
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oh and that crash is like the game freeze and than i do ctrl+alt+del and i have "eduke stopped working"..
This post has been edited by Mblackwell: 07 December 2010 - 08:41 PM
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#1960 Posted 02 December 2010 - 04:17 AM
djdori11
Not that log. You need to post the content of eduke32.crashlog
and please wrap it into "code" tags, I've just broke my mouse wheel while scrolling through you post
Not that log. You need to post the content of eduke32.crashlog
and please wrap it into "code" tags, I've just broke my mouse wheel while scrolling through you post
This post has been edited by Roma Loom: 02 December 2010 - 04:19 AM
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#1961 Posted 02 December 2010 - 04:20 AM
Edit: damn too late, you can still go by my instructions which are probably clearer, and try the rest of my advice as well, it works for some people.
Wow, can you like edit that post. Choose 'use full editor' then on the left there are a bunch of options including the use of a 'codebox'. Can you cut the log and paste it into the codebox? That way it won't make the thread 100 times longer than it should be.
While I'm here I might as well throw in my two cents: find the textures and textures.cache files and delete them. Start the game, go into options and switch off the 'on disk texture cache' in renderer setup in video options. Make sure it's off and not just compressed. Finally, always make sure you have the latest eduke32 which can be found at the top of this page: http://dukeworld.duk...ke32/synthesis/
Happy Duking
Wow, can you like edit that post. Choose 'use full editor' then on the left there are a bunch of options including the use of a 'codebox'. Can you cut the log and paste it into the codebox? That way it won't make the thread 100 times longer than it should be.
While I'm here I might as well throw in my two cents: find the textures and textures.cache files and delete them. Start the game, go into options and switch off the 'on disk texture cache' in renderer setup in video options. Make sure it's off and not just compressed. Finally, always make sure you have the latest eduke32 which can be found at the top of this page: http://dukeworld.duk...ke32/synthesis/
Happy Duking
This post has been edited by Micky C: 02 December 2010 - 04:22 AM
#1962 Posted 02 December 2010 - 04:23 AM
ok i changed it to "code" tags and here is the .crashlog:
sorry for ur mouse
Failed to init bfd from (C:\Windows\system32\atioglxx.dll) 0x69aefcec : C:\Windows\system32\atioglxx.dll : DrvPresentBuffers Failed to init bfd from (C:\Windows\system32\atioglxx.dll) 0x690cc43d : C:\Windows\system32\atioglxx.dll : DrvPresentBuffers
sorry for ur mouse
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#1963 Posted 02 December 2010 - 04:24 AM
@Plagman
I've checked windowed mapster32 and eduke32 in win7 with GeForce card - the problems with infinite "not responding" are still here after few alt-tabs
The problem with multiple vidrestarts can't be reproduced on GeForce card.
However I've just found eduke32.crashlog on my WinXP PC with GeForce card with the following content:
I've checked windowed mapster32 and eduke32 in win7 with GeForce card - the problems with infinite "not responding" are still here after few alt-tabs
The problem with multiple vidrestarts can't be reproduced on GeForce card.
However I've just found eduke32.crashlog on my WinXP PC with GeForce card with the following content:
Failed to init bfd from (C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll) 0x696d8250 : C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll : DllMain
#1964 Posted 02 December 2010 - 04:39 AM
Micky C, on Dec 2 2010, 04:20 AM, said:
Edit: damn too late, you can still go by my instructions which are probably clearer, and try the rest of my advice as well, it works for some people.
Wow, can you like edit that post. Choose 'use full editor' then on the left there are a bunch of options including the use of a 'codebox'. Can you cut the log and paste it into the codebox? That way it won't make the thread 100 times longer than it should be.
While I'm here I might as well throw in my two cents: find the textures and textures.cache files and delete them. Start the game, go into options and switch off the 'on disk texture cache' in renderer setup in video options. Make sure it's off and not just compressed. Finally, always make sure you have the latest eduke32 which can be found at the top of this page: http://dukeworld.duk...ke32/synthesis/
Happy Duking
Wow, can you like edit that post. Choose 'use full editor' then on the left there are a bunch of options including the use of a 'codebox'. Can you cut the log and paste it into the codebox? That way it won't make the thread 100 times longer than it should be.
While I'm here I might as well throw in my two cents: find the textures and textures.cache files and delete them. Start the game, go into options and switch off the 'on disk texture cache' in renderer setup in video options. Make sure it's off and not just compressed. Finally, always make sure you have the latest eduke32 which can be found at the top of this page: http://dukeworld.duk...ke32/synthesis/
Happy Duking
well i did what u said and the game works the same like before with crashes..
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#1965 Posted 02 December 2010 - 05:07 AM
Also a dozen of latest mapster builds crash after loading few original maps one by one (switching 2d/3d mode inbetween) after 2nd or 3rd map... And no debug crashreport is generated in this case [GF9600GT, WinXP]
[GF9600GT, WinXP]
This post has been edited by Roma Loom: 02 December 2010 - 05:09 AM
#1966 Posted 02 December 2010 - 06:14 AM
Micky C, on Dec 2 2010, 05:57 AM, said:
Oh and Norvak's right, vertices can be moved, but it's the most awkward thing ever. I guess I shouldn't complain until Helixhorned has had more of a chance to work on the controls like he said.
micky i am a bit confused. is that post for me about what i said with moving the walls only and not vertics?
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#1967 Posted 02 December 2010 - 10:55 AM
Norvak, on Dec 2 2010, 02:50 AM, said:
BTW it´s possible to move the walls in this mode, right click to see what we are selecting:
and then hold right click to move the point...
and then hold right click to move the point...
No, you still drag points with LMB.
Jhect, on Dec 2 2010, 02:56 AM, said:
yea but i dont have to double tap it xD the curser/pointer you are moving are very annoying. its so hard to find the real wall you are pointing at, if you know what i mean. the yellow X on your picture.
and maybe some time it will be possible to drag the vertics instead of the walls only? i mean the ceiling vertic or floor vertic if you know what i mean? that would give some great opportunities!
and maybe some time it will be possible to drag the vertics instead of the walls only? i mean the ceiling vertic or floor vertic if you know what i mean? that would give some great opportunities!
Micky C, on Dec 2 2010, 05:57 AM, said:
The ability to view the map depends as we all know on the position of the camera, which is limited to the x-y plane on the grid square. This means that at some angles when sections of the map appear outside the grid, you can't have a close look at it.
Likewise, if you went purely side on, the camera can't be moved up and down, and it would be impossible to have a close up side on look at any part of the map which doesn't lie on or near the same plane as the grid itself at z coord 0. I.e I can't look at the main part of my map in the attached image.
Oh and Norvak's right, vertices can be moved, but it's the most awkward thing ever. I guess I shouldn't complain until Helixhorned has had more of a chance to work on the controls like he said.
Likewise, if you went purely side on, the camera can't be moved up and down, and it would be impossible to have a close up side on look at any part of the map which doesn't lie on or near the same plane as the grid itself at z coord 0. I.e I can't look at the main part of my map in the attached image.
Oh and Norvak's right, vertices can be moved, but it's the most awkward thing ever. I guess I shouldn't complain until Helixhorned has had more of a chance to work on the controls like he said.
Try the middle mouse button, it will change your z position. This is in contrast with RMB, which slides you in the (x, y) plane.
The aiming is determined with respect to the z position. As I said, it's a bit confusing right now.
Regarding dragging individual vertices, it can't be done straightforwardly simply because there are no separate vertices for the floor and ceiling as far as the map structure is concerned.
BTW, the dotted yellow line goes from your position to the nearest floor so that you have an indication of your elevation.
Roma Loom, on Dec 2 2010, 02:07 PM, said:
Also a dozen of latest mapster builds crash after loading few original maps one by one (switching 2d/3d mode inbetween) after 2nd or 3rd map... And no debug crashreport is generated in this case [GF9600GT, WinXP]
[GF9600GT, WinXP]Maybe it's an infinite loop then? Is there a way to persuade you to install GDB?
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#1968 Posted 02 December 2010 - 12:19 PM
downloading...
No luck. I'm launching GDB, setting the needed dir, "file" eduke32.debug.exe, it reads symbols, "run" - it runs ok, and never hangs after dozens alt-tabs.
Launching eduke32.debug.exe outside the debugger makes it hang after few alt-tabs.
No luck. I'm launching GDB, setting the needed dir, "file" eduke32.debug.exe, it reads symbols, "run" - it runs ok, and never hangs after dozens alt-tabs.
Launching eduke32.debug.exe outside the debugger makes it hang after few alt-tabs.
This post has been edited by Roma Loom: 02 December 2010 - 12:53 PM
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#1969 Posted 02 December 2010 - 01:04 PM
Right. Those are the most fun to debug. I'll boot to Windows and see if I can reproduce it myself since I didn't use Polymer earlier.
... no crash in 32-bit XP and Vista for me.
... no crash in 32-bit XP and Vista for me.
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#1970 Posted 02 December 2010 - 01:06 PM
as for vidrestart bug on my notebook with ATI HD4300 onboard GDB returnes this after r_hightile 0, restartvid, r_hightile 1, restartvid:
with eduke's crashlog with the following content
Starting program: D:\Games\Duke3D Polymer/eduke32.debug.exe [New Thread 5916.0x1bec] warning: `C:\Windows\system32\ntdll.dll': Shared library architecture i386:x8 warning: `C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\wow64.dll': Shared library architecture i386:x8 warning: `C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\wow64win.dll': Shared library architecture i386 warning: `C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\wow64cpu.dll': Shared library architecture i386 warning: Could not load shared library symbols for ntdll32.dll. Do you need "set solib-search-path" or "set sysroot"? warning: Could not load shared library symbols for WOW64_IMAGE_SECTION. Do you need "set solib-search-path" or "set sysroot"? warning: Could not load shared library symbols for WOW64_IMAGE_SECTION. Do you need "set solib-search-path" or "set sysroot"? warning: Could not load shared library symbols for NOT_AN_IMAGE. Do you need "set solib-search-path" or "set sysroot"? warning: Could not load shared library symbols for NOT_AN_IMAGE. Do you need "set solib-search-path" or "set sysroot"? [New Thread 5916.0x357c] [New Thread 5916.0x33fc] [New Thread 5916.0x3ffc] [New Thread 5916.0x2cbc] [New Thread 5916.0x26fc] [New Thread 5916.0x43f0] [New Thread 5916.0x21a4] [New Thread 5916.0x3248] [New Thread 5916.0x39ac] [New Thread 5916.0x32dc] [New Thread 5916.0x3db8] warning: HEAP[eduke32.debug.exe]: warning: Invalid address specified to RtlFreeHeap( 1E400000, 2DA3C230 ) warning: HEAP[eduke32.debug.exe]: warning: Heap block at 2DA178F0 modified at 2DA1790A past requested size of c Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0000002b in ?? ()
with eduke's crashlog with the following content
Failed to init bfd from (C:\Windows\system32\atioglxx.dll) 0x1db58eea : C:\Windows\system32\atioglxx.dll : DrvPresentBuffers Failed to init bfd from (C:\Windows\system32\atioglxx.dll) 0x1e00a3c7 : C:\Windows\system32\atioglxx.dll : atiPS 0x5661ed : D:\Games\Duke3D Polymer\eduke32.debug.exe : Z:\var\www\synthesis\eduke32\eduke32\build/src/ polymer.c (775) : in function (polymer_loadboard) 0x565d29 : D:\Games\Duke3D Polymer\eduke32.debug.exe : Z:\var\www\synthesis\eduke32\eduke32\build/src/ polymer.c (620) : in function (polymer_init) 0x5182a6 : D:\Games\Duke3D Polymer\eduke32.debug.exe : Z:\var\www\synthesis\eduke32\eduke32\build/src/ engine.c (8260) : in function (setgamemode) 0x4d9c53 : D:\Games\Duke3D Polymer\eduke32.debug.exe : Z:\var\www\synthesis\eduke32\eduke32/source/osdcmds. c (364) : in function (osdcmd_restartvid) 0x54ef21 : D:\Games\Duke3D Polymer\eduke32.debug.exe : Z:\var\www\synthesis\eduke32\eduke32\build/src/ osd.c (1776) : in function (OSD_Dispatch) 0x54ebbd : D:\Games\Duke3D Polymer\eduke32.debug.exe : Z:\var\www\synthesis\eduke32\eduke32\build/src/ osd.c (1619) : in function (OSD_DispatchQueued) 0x426452 : D:\Games\Duke3D Polymer\eduke32.debug.exe : Z:\var\www\synthesis\eduke32\eduke32/source/game.c (10017) : in function (app_main) 0x55df94 : D:\Games\Duke3D Polymer\eduke32.debug.exe : Z:\var\www\synthesis\eduke32\eduke32\build/src/ winlayer.c (494) : in function (WinMain@16) 0x5b5a16 : D:\Games\Duke3D Polymer\eduke32.debug.exe : main.c 0x4010db : D:\Games\Duke3D Polymer\eduke32.debug.exe : crt1.c 0x401158 : D:\Games\Duke3D Polymer\eduke32.debug.exe : crt1.c Failed to init bfd from (C:\Windows\syswow64\kernel32.dll) 0x75d43677 : C:\Windows\syswow64\kernel32.dll : BaseThreadInitThunk Failed to init bfd from (C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll) 0x77259d72 : C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll : RtlInitializeExceptionChain Failed to init bfd from (C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll) 0x77259d45 : C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll : RtlInitializeExceptionChain
#1971 Posted 02 December 2010 - 05:08 PM
thanks helix. you explained a lot. so it is not possible to move the floor or ceiling vertic alone. maybe some time in the future? man i can see opportunities
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#1972 Posted 02 December 2010 - 06:43 PM
You do realize that it would be best to make an entire new 3D bsp system for that?
#1973 Posted 02 December 2010 - 09:45 PM
Helixhorned, on Dec 2 2010, 04:44 AM, said:
I'm not sure what you mean by "building on different axes" but there are no new inherent capabilities -- all you can do with the new mode you also could do before. The main goal is simply convenience for architecture that spreads wide in the z direction, for spritework, and the like.
The ability to not only create sectors from the ground... but to create sectors from the wall.
That's what I mean. The ability to actually start creating sectors from the walls horizontally. Sort of a true, room over room ability (actual 3D).
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#1974 Posted 02 December 2010 - 10:25 PM
You can already do that, unofficially of course, and only in polymer. It's not perfect (I'm not sure about the clipping and it disappears when you can no longer see the wall that it's branched from, but that's not a big problem). Check out High Treason's videos on how to do that http://forums.duke4....?showtopic=2988.
Just to clarify, walls can never EVER be made to slope, that's the nature of the engine. It's 2D. The closest thing to that will always be having a ridiculously vertical floor or ceiling.
Jhect, on Dec 3 2010, 11:38 AM, said:
thanks helix. you explained a lot. so it is not possible to move the floor or ceiling vertic alone. maybe some time in the future? man i can see opportunities
Just to clarify, walls can never EVER be made to slope, that's the nature of the engine. It's 2D. The closest thing to that will always be having a ridiculously vertical floor or ceiling.
#1975 Posted 03 December 2010 - 03:29 AM
I have seen it... I know it's unofficial... but I'm talking about a proper, official way to build proper room over room levels.
Maybe even room over room over room
Maybe even room over room over room
#1976 Posted 03 December 2010 - 12:28 PM
oh thats sad. i wonder what the next move will be then. how will you upgrade the mapster32. maybe you should start with the controlls of the 3d view
#1977 Posted 04 December 2010 - 07:24 AM
djdori11, on Dec 2 2010, 01:46 AM, said:
the problems i have with lastest builds and polymer hrp:
1.this problem:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2189/ed...20123041814.jpg
2.the game crashing randomly.
3.the game slow on my nice computer.
4.all other ati card problems (only liner and nearest textures filters work etc..)
when you will fix it? i really want to finsih the game with polymer hrp but this problems really annoy me.. (especialy the crashing problem) so.. yeah.. plz try to fix this problems and most important the crashing problem! thanks!
1.this problem:
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2.the game crashing randomly.
3.the game slow on my nice computer.
4.all other ati card problems (only liner and nearest textures filters work etc..)
when you will fix it? i really want to finsih the game with polymer hrp but this problems really annoy me.. (especialy the crashing problem) so.. yeah.. plz try to fix this problems and most important the crashing problem! thanks!
oh and i want u 2 know that this problems (except 4) happens only when i use polymer!
so.. hope you'll fix the problems soon!
#1978 Posted 07 December 2010 - 01:05 AM
My uncle just bought a laptop and I tried running Polymer on it. I didn't expect it to run it since it just has Intel graphics, but it did run it and quite well. Well, that was without using the maphacks and Polymer HRP pack. I tried it with those installed, too, but it lagged a bit. That was the only problem. Here's the specs:
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#1980 Posted 08 December 2010 - 12:09 PM
I too can run Polymer on my Intel graphics accelerater from 2007. The lights don't have any brightness level between super bright and dark, so I'm not bragging I can get it running flawlessly, but I can at least load it and play a level. 
