[NightFright]

Tripbomb (#2566) added to GitHub.

[Striker]

Borion, on 16 April 2020 - 04:25 PM, said:

Thanks a bunch! It's such a subtle thing in-game, but it really makes the tripmines look much better.

[Borion]

Striker, on 18 April 2020 - 12:11 AM, said:

Thanks a bunch! It's such a subtle thing in-game, but it really makes the tripmines look much better.

No problem!

[Borion]

Chair3 (680-684)

[NightFright]

GitHub magic done.

[LeoD]

Voxels: Pragmatic Player's Pack

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                    ========================================
                    |   Voxels: Pragmatic Player's Pack    |
                    |               by LeoD                |
                    ========================================
                    |              2020-04-21              |
                    ========================================


WHAT THIS IS ABOUT:
-------------------
  For the time being, this package will provide the best voxel experience when
  playing both the official Duke Nukem 3D episodes and addons, and more than
  a thousand community made maps and episodes for which maphacks have been made
  so far.
  The only exception would be contents specifically made for the original Voxel
  Pack (like StrikerDM), which shouldn't need maphacks in the first place.


CONTENTS:
---------
  - A patched EDuke32 executable, specifically modified to improve applying
    maphacks to voxel models
  - The "Voxels for Maphacks" Pack with voxel models optimized to work with:
  - The latest UserMapHacks Pack


PREREQUISITES:
--------------
  The official Duke Nukem 3D Voxel Pack - that's the whole point, isn't it?
  In general, we will be compatible to later Voxel Pack releases as well.


HOW TO USE IT:
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  Drop duke3d_voxp3.zip und the UserMapHacks zip into autoload,
  alongside the official Voxel Pack.
  Extract eduke32.exe from the 7-Zip archive into your D3D game directory.
  More information in each sub-archive's own text file.


WHERE TO GET IT:
----------------
  https://www.mediafire.com/file/9l8kgqd2bn8uaew/Voxels-PPP.7z

  Current Voxel Pack:
  https://github.com/NightFright2k19/voxelpack/releases/download/1.3pre3/duke3d_voxels.
zip


CONTACT:
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  https://forums.duke4.net/index.php?showuser=1299


LINKS:
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  EDuke32 port ................................ https://eduke32.com
  Duke4.net ................................... https://duke4.net
  Duke Nukem 3D High-Resolution Pack .......... https://hrp.duke4.net
  Voxel Pack Forum Thread .... https://forums.duke4.net/index.php?showtopic=3322
  Voxel Pack Repository ...... https://github.com/NightFright2k19/voxelpack


Advertisement:
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  Other stuff by LeoD ........ https://forums.duke4.net/index.php?showtopic=3513


Changelog:
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2020-04-21 - Initial Version

  - Patched EDuke32 based on r8869
  - duke3d_voxp3.zip based on latest Voxel Pack and HRP/Maphack
    repository versions
  - UserMapHacks r5.4.674-722+

[Borion]

Great stuff Leo, that had to be MASSIVE amount of work!
"Pragmatic Player's Pack" - Duke Nukem 3P?

EDIT:
Please consider putting it on GitHub as PPP. There is bigger chance that those in need will find it. Only hardcore Build fans encounter this forum.

[Radar]

Virtue signal voxel pack.

[LeoD]

Borion, on 21 April 2020 - 12:20 PM, said:

Great stuff Leo, that had to be MASSIVE amount of work!

Just a small fraction of the work between 2012 and 2017 which I have put into the [user]maphacks. Preserving the outcome of those efforts was obviously the main intention to deal with all this stuff.

Borion, on 21 April 2020 - 12:20 PM, said:

"Pragmatic Player's Pack" - Duke Nukem 3P?

Duke Nukem CLE

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Corona Lockdown Excretion

Borion, on 21 April 2020 - 12:20 PM, said:

Please consider putting it on GitHub as PPP. There is bigger chance that those in need will find it. Only hardcore Build fans encounter this forum.

I hardly know anything yet about using Git or GitHub. Not sure if the few dozen files which are actually 'unique' really need their own repo. How do "those in need" find the original Voxel Pack in the first place?
And who is left anyway except for the hardcore Build fans?

[Phredreeke]

Can you describe what the patches you did to EDuke32 changed?

[Borion]

LeoD, on 21 April 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

I hardly know anything yet about using Git or GitHub. Not sure if the few dozen files which are actually 'unique' really need their own repo. How do "those in need" find the original Voxel Pack in the first place?
And who is left anyway except for the hardcore Build fans?

GitHub is not only repo "warehouse". It is vast network of people, knowledge and projects. By sharing something in there, you make it easy(er) to find it for other people(i.e. by tags), let them analyse its content and possibly use it or learn from it. Think of it as social media without crap photos & stroking ego...pure intellectual exchange platform. I found there so many invaluable tools and projects over the years I would have hard time counting them all. So i.e. in 10 years some underaged ambitious kid might find your stuff and learn from it, long after obscure threads from this forum or even we are gone. Look how hard it is for fresh members of this community to learn things like weapon modding or con scripting. People have to exchange zip files with archived web pages from Google wayback machine...it is crazy how quickly knowledge can evaporate in tech age. Especially knowledge involving niche 90s FPS game modding
I think it would be better if most if not all Duke4 projects would be moved to GitHub. There are no downsides to it, IMO.

EDIT:

LeoD, on 21 April 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

And who is left anyway except for the hardcore Build fans?

Gamers that were growing up in 90s, retrogaming geeks & 90's 16 bit art fans...I now for a fact, there are MANY people that would want to use Build mods, maps, create content and use sth like Eduke32 in general. But lack of visibility of this community is limiting its presence in modern gaming world. I think assumption that "those that really care will find us this way or another" is wrong. Discord, Twitter, GitHub...thats where it all happens nowadays. And to all those hating those platforms, it is not same as f****ng Facebook or Instagram, you like it or not.

[Borion]

Coming soon

[NightFright]

Both on GitHub now, including adjustments for E4L5 maphacks.

Side note:
It seems we are experiencing issues with #670/671 (faucet) when it's animated. IIRC in the original maps this one is not animated, so it may not be a problem in the classic episodes. However, if it is used, it apparently looks like this:



Whether this can be resolved via maphacks is unknown at this point. I have involved LeoD in the investigation process, so let's see.

[LeoD]

Phredreeke, on 21 April 2020 - 07:52 PM, said:

Can you describe what the patches you did to EDuke32 changed?

NightFright, on 22 April 2020 - 04:12 AM, said:

I have involved LeoD in the investigation process, so let's see.

post-releasegasm fatigue + RealLife = please be patient

[Striker]

NightFright, on 22 April 2020 - 04:12 AM, said:

Both on GitHub now, including adjustments for E4L5 maphacks.

Side note:
It seems we are experiencing issues with #670/671 (faucet) when it's animated. IIRC in the original maps this one is not animated, so it may not be a problem in the classic episodes. However, if it is used, it apparently looks like this:



Whether this can be resolved via maphacks is unknown at this point. I have involved LeoD in the investigation process, so let's see.

That just looks like one of the voxels is missing it's pivots. The voxel will need to be fixed. Maphacks won't help here.

[Borion]

Striker, on 22 April 2020 - 11:58 AM, said:

That just looks like one of the voxels is missing it's pivots. The voxel will need to be fixed. Maphacks won't help here.

Striker, it's not like I have not made some stupid mistakes in the past but this is not one of those times

EDIT:
I replaced my props.def & duke3d_voxels.def with one from GitHub. Now it works. My edits for unfinished models had to screw up something. Sorry guys!

+1 on the list of stupid mistakes

[LeoD]

Issue not confirmed. Minimal setup: duke3d.grp, eduke32.debug.exe r8871, Voxel Pack repository zipped into empty autoload. Both Polymost and Classic are OK.

Phredreeke, on 21 April 2020 - 07:52 PM, said:

Can you describe what the patches you did to EDuke32 changed?

If the information provided in the binary's 7z archive (txt, patch, cpp) seems insufficient, please bump again.

[Lunick]

Thankyou for continuously making high quality voxels!

[NightFright]

So if I understood correctly, the watertap issue happened because Borion did not use all files from the repo. Standing down from red alert, then.

And Lunick is right, ofc: Borion is doing a fantastic job, just like the others who contributed. It's rare to still see people with such a high creative output, and without it, the whole project would not be where it is now. I never even thought we would get the pickups completed, and look what we got now. Over 200 voxels in the entire pack!

[SonicB00M]

Yeah, it's totally surreal seeing Duke3D with more voxels than Blood and SW. Even more surreal because the voxels' quality vastly exceeds the official ones! I visit this thread almost daily to marvel at the new noxels, which breathe more and more life into the game

[Borion]

As always, thanks for kind words people!

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Over 200 voxels in the entire pack!

And we are not done yet!


gumballmachine (4458-4459)
Appears on E4M3, no corrections needed.

[Borion]

Some time ago there was discussion if making voxel enemies is good idea. Chillo, a super talented 3D modeller and since few weeks also a voxel enthusiast, made all basic frames for zombie in Blood.
Check out this gameplay video:
https://twitter.com/...4869238785?s=20

I had to look on the floor for my jaw.

[Mark]

I waited almost a minute and the "loading wheel" didn't stop spinning so I couldn't watch the clip

[NightFright]

Gumball machine now on GitHub.

[Kyanos]

Borion, on 23 April 2020 - 06:18 AM, said:

Some time ago there was discussion if making voxel enemies is good idea. Chillo, a super talented 3D modeller and since few weeks also a voxel enthusiast, made all basic frames for zombie in Blood.
Check out this gameplay video:
https://twitter.com/...4869238785?s=20

I had to look on the floor for my jaw.

DO IT!!!!!!!!


XD

[Dzierzan]

I prefer him not doing any voxel enemies. They feel out of place apart from non organic enemies like drones, tanks. I just feel like a voxel enemy loses a lot of details. Even if it's a sprite with depth. Besides that also means you'd have to make voxels for every possible actor animation in the game, that's insane amount of work!

[Jimmy]

I think voxel enemies could be cool if done right, but I would say the wisest focus would be decorations/scenery. Just my two cents.

[Phredreeke]

Agree, I'd rather Borion do Vaca/DN64/mod weapon pickups.

[Fox]

Duke 64 would be troublesome, given the palette problem.

[Borion]

That link was posted as proof of concept. You made it clear guys that You don't want/need voxelized enemies and as Dzierzan said, it would be insane amount of work.

There is only one enemy that I'm sure I will voxelize - Pigcop Car. I can't stand how flat it looks while hovering in place & shooting. In this one moment when whole illusion of mass is gone. I think due to the height in relation to ground level and length of "car". Contrary to Cacodemon or Gargoyle from Blood, this one has not optimal shape for 2.5D trickery, IMO.

I won't forgo work on props, there are still at least 20-30 objects that need voxelization. Just pipes in all variations are 15 models. I think I will take care of few more objects and take a break for a while. By break I mean making i.e. Duke64 or Caribbean stuff

Fox, what do you mean by palette issues? 3DR used different palette for N64 port?

EDIt: typos