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Blood corner  "For Blood 1 & 2 related talk."

#361

View Postaxl, on 07 June 2017 - 12:52 AM, said:

Just a question: if somebody indeed would leak the source code and another person would make a port based on this leaked source code, would the latter then be in infringement?

Partial source code to a early iteration of blood got leaked a long time ago. When I mean partial, only 30% of it from what I remember leaked, and I'm sure M210 referenced it for his work.

This post has been edited by icecoldduke: 07 June 2017 - 06:40 AM

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User is offline   fgsfds 

#362

Been working on the parallax skies that may make it to GDX sometime.
http://i.imgur.com/xOnaJJim.gif


http://i.imgur.com/MonA6aVm.gif

http://i.imgur.com/jCpGutOm.gif

This post has been edited by fgsfds: 07 June 2017 - 11:57 AM

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User is offline   TerminX 

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  #363

View Posticecoldduke, on 07 June 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

Partial source code to a early iteration of blood got leaked a long time ago. When I mean partial, only 30% of it from what I remember leaked, and I'm sure M210 referenced it for his work.

There may or may not be upwards of a dozen full source snapshots floating around that are only missing a library or two required to link. The newest of them may or may not be less than a year older than the first public release of Blood. M210 may or may not have used them. There may or may not be hundreds of matching symbol names found in his compiled java classes.
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#364

View PostTerminX, on 07 June 2017 - 04:36 PM, said:

There may or may not be upwards of a dozen full source snapshots floating around that are only missing a library or two required to link. The newest of them may or may not be less than a year older than the first public release of Blood. M210 may or may not have used them. There may or may not be hundreds of matching symbol names found in his compiled java classes.

That's interesting. I was not aware that a full source code dump was leaked online. If the gamecode is all there, it wouldn't matter if its missing libraries it would be easy enough for someone to fill in the blanks. I guess M210 didn't have to fiddly fuck as much as I thought :).

This post has been edited by icecoldduke: 07 June 2017 - 05:00 PM

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User is offline   TerminX 

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  #365

View Posticecoldduke, on 07 June 2017 - 04:54 PM, said:

That's interesting. I was not aware that a full source code dump was leaked online. If the gamecode is all there, it wouldn't matter if its missing libraries it would be easy enough for someone to fill in the blanks. I guess M210 didn't have to fiddly fuck as much as I thought :).

https://i.imgur.com/qojbeDq.png
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#366

View PostTerminX, on 07 June 2017 - 05:01 PM, said:

https://i.imgur.com/qojbeDq.png

I thought that image originated from Jace?
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User is offline   TerminX 

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  #367

No, I sent a similar one to Jace at some point.
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User is online   Hendricks266 

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  #368

To be clear, this stuff is from a year before the final version.
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#369

View PostHendricks266, on 07 June 2017 - 05:05 PM, said:

To be clear, this stuff is from a year before the final version.

Yeah, it would be useless to port that code, but it does explain how M210 was able to get his port to were its at. He didn't have to do as much fiddly fucking.

This post has been edited by icecoldduke: 07 June 2017 - 05:22 PM

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  #370

View Posticecoldduke, on 07 June 2017 - 05:21 PM, said:

Yeah it would be useless to make a port of the final game, but it does explain how M210 was able to get his port to were its at. He didn't have to do as much fiddly fucking.

Far from useless. All of the FX and animation systems were in place (with file formats compatible with the final version), etc.
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User is offline   m210 

#371

just want to say - it's not a full source code...it's not a full alpha src's and it's a 50% of retail(released) version src code. I know it, because I working with it (worked)
For example, alpha haven't ROR and water sectors..it's was a decompiled and btw it's a big part of code.

This post has been edited by M210: 10 June 2017 - 01:42 AM

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#372

View PostM210, on 10 June 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

just want to say - it's not a full source code...it's not a full alpha src's and it's a 50% of retail(released) version src code. I know it, because I working with it (worked)
For example, alpha haven't ROR and water sectors..it's was a decompiled and btw it's a big part of code.

That's not what I mean by fiddly fucking. ROR does not fall under fiddly fucking. Getting the timing right for monsters, animations, and such is really difficult and often requires engineers and designers to go in and try shit over and over...thats called fiddly fucking.

If you took any gameplay code from that codebase(game logic/timing/etc), then you didn't have to do any fiddly fucking. I'm starting to understand why you don't want to release your code to the community. There would be a greater chance of Atari or Warner Bros being on your ass if they knew your work contained there code ;).

This post has been edited by icecoldduke: 10 June 2017 - 04:02 AM

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#373

Made a bunch of voxels. All of the non-animated pickups are now voxelized.
http://i.imgur.com/ICyIblFt.png http://i.imgur.com/XTqeUzrt.png http://i.imgur.com/lqO9f7gt.png http://i.imgur.com/sUFrvOyt.png
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#374

 fgsfds, on 11 June 2017 - 01:17 PM, said:

Made a bunch of voxels. All of the non-animated pickups are now voxelized.


Good work, I hope we'll see this soon in BloodGDX.
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User is offline   Nokiaman 

#375

With the latest release the lag I had is gone so wanted to thank you M210! :)

This post has been edited by Nokiaman: 12 June 2017 - 04:00 AM

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User is offline   axl 

#376

 fgsfds, on 11 June 2017 - 01:17 PM, said:

Made a bunch of voxels. All of the non-animated pickups are now voxelized.


Great stuff !
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User is offline   Tekedon 

#377

New release! Voxels and cutscenes (without sound) now working!

http://m210.duke4.ne...category/9-java
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User is offline   fgsfds 

#378

More voxels.


http://i.imgur.com/pA3N97m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EoO7SAE.png?1

This post has been edited by fgsfds: 17 June 2017 - 06:06 AM

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User is offline   Mark 

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#379

Wow. With so many voxels now it might be enough to get me to switch from playing M210's BloodTC with models and try this new port.

This post has been edited by Mark.: 17 June 2017 - 03:58 AM

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#380

They can be put together with this to make a 2.0 pack? (crediting TheUnbeholden obviously)

http://www.moddb.com...lood-voxel-pack
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#381

Extremely good job, congratulations!

One problem though, I'm playing GOG release of One Unit, there seems to be problem with some textures in Cryptic Passage, boats have The Beast sprites. Am I doing something wrong? Or is this just a bug?
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User is offline   HulkNukem 

#382

I had the same issue; this was the fix

https://forums.duke4...post__p__277357

I played the first couple levels of Death Wish and they ran seemingly fine, this was before the newer versions just released.

This post has been edited by HulkNukem: 17 June 2017 - 04:19 PM

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#383

View PostFantinaikos, on 17 June 2017 - 04:07 AM, said:

They can be put together with this to make a 2.0 pack? (crediting TheUnbeholden obviously)

http://www.moddb.com...lood-voxel-pack


It's possible, but I don't see a point. Most of them aren't even used in the main game and the ones that are are just lazily converted from low-poly 3d models and, honestly, look awful.



http://i.imgur.com/rEgGBHz.jpg

This post has been edited by fgsfds: 18 June 2017 - 01:25 AM

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#384

View PostFantinaikos, on 17 June 2017 - 04:07 AM, said:

(crediting TheUnbeholden obviously)

I doubt he actually made the voxels, he quite often uploads other people's mods and creations to ModDB without prior permission.
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User is offline   Lunick 

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#385

There's now a BloodGDX subforum https://forums.duke4...um/42-bloodgdx/
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User is offline   xenoxols 

#386

View PostLunick, on 18 June 2017 - 03:22 AM, said:

I doubt he actually made the voxels, he quite often uploads other people's mods and creations to ModDB without prior permission.

He has uploaded my mods before without asking. Some people have thought (s)he is the author which is kinda annoying.
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User is offline   Master O 

#387

So basically any effort to get the IP away from Warner Brothers is dead?
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User is offline   Tekedon 

#388

I can't see it happening in the near future at least..
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User is offline   Player Lin 

#389

View PostMaster O, on 25 June 2017 - 09:39 AM, said:

So basically any effort to get the IP away from Warner Brothers is dead?



When a IP like Blood acquired by Warner Brothers, then it just like doesn't exist anymore...

Unless someone has a lot of money than WB then it may still hopes... :unsure:

This post has been edited by Player Lin: 26 June 2017 - 05:58 AM

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User is offline   fgsfds 

#390

Just uploaded voxels I've made so far.
https://forums.duke4...ood-voxel-pack/

If anyone is interested, feel free to make a package for the original game.
Animated voxels and 1044_GATE.kvx won't work in it though.
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