[Roma Loom]

Mark., on 17 May 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

Concerning the lack of light reflection, I posted months ago a list of HRP tiles that reflect light in only one direction. If you walk alongside a wall with those textures from one side they are properly lit by Polymer lights. Approach from the other side and they stay dark. I remade a normal for one of them and the problem went away. Then at another time I remade one and the problem persisted. I'm not quite sure but one might have been made with GIMP and it's plugin and the other with CrazyBump. No idea what is actually causing the problem.

Must be related to X/Y axis of a normalmap (R/G channel). There are options for setting X/Y axis either positive or negative both for 3ds max and CrazyBump. The default settings for them in 3ds max force me to invert R & G channels of a normal map in Photoshop after baking (I'm just lazy to set up them properly in 3ds max). Some engines (Unity3D iirc) require to invert only one axis and some engines work properly with normal maps baked with default settings in 3ds max. Wherever normal map texture came from it's possible to check the axis in mapster by moving a light source horizontally to check if X-axis set correctly and then up and down for Y-axis.

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[Steveeeie]

Roma Loom, on 18 May 2013 - 03:19 AM, said:

Must be related to X/Y axis of a normalmap (R/G channel). There are options for setting X/Y axis either positive or negative both for 3ds max and CrazyBump. The default settings for them in 3ds max force me to invert R & G channels of a normal map in Photoshop after baking (I'm just lazy to set up them properly in 3ds max). Some engines (Unity3D iirc) require to invert only one axis and some engines work properly with normal maps baked with default settings in 3ds max. Wherever normal map texture came from it's possible to check the axis in mapster by moving a light source horizontally to check if X-axis set correctly and then up and down for Y-axis.

Yeah this is correct, xNormal which i use, inverts the green channel by default, I have it set to flip the green channel the other way, which is what UDK, Toolbag and Build seem to like

[Mark]

I'll check around on my drives and see if I still have the list of HRP tiles with the problem. I know 757 and 742 have the problem.

[Mateos]

Thanks for the link Steveeeie

[Spiker]

Good to see you back Steveeeie I see you brought some nice textures with you By the way the "old" closet texture was made by me and the reason it was 1024x1024 was simply because I forgot to scale it down. But as it seems it found a worthy replacement. Keep it coming!

[Steveeeie]

Spiker, on 18 May 2013 - 07:36 AM, said:

Good to see you back Steveeeie I see you brought some nice textures with you By the way the "old" closet texture was made by me and the reason it was 1024x1024 was simply because I forgot to scale it down. But as it seems it found a worthy replacement. Keep it coming!

Thanks Spiker I think 1024px is a fair size for this texture, its used everywhere and you often have to get close up to it.

[Steveeeie]

Mateos, on 18 May 2013 - 05:13 AM, said:

Thanks for the link Steveeeie

No problem, just keep plugging away at it, try and make something new every night, even if only takes you half an hour.

I usually make something new nightly even if I don't feel like doing it

[ReaperMan]

Spiker, on 18 May 2013 - 07:36 AM, said:

Good to see you back Steveeeie

Steveeeie actually died..... but he got better.

[Steveeeie]

ReaperMan, on 18 May 2013 - 09:08 AM, said:

Steveeeie actually died..... but he got better.

Thats why we celebrate easter.

[Night Wolf]

Excellent texture work Steeevie
About the floorboards (0880)
I think the nails are a little too perfect, it would be more realistic if they were a bit misaligned.
Either way it still looks great.

Edit.
Also for consistency the colour of the cupboards (0879) should match the colour of the floorboards (0880).

[Mateos]

ozz, on 18 May 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

About the floorboards (0880)
I think the nails are a little too perfect, it would be more realistic if they were a bit misaligned.

If they're aligned in original Duke, they should stay aligned; Also somebody doing his job correctly will not say "I have misaligned your floor because it is more realistic to my mind, you're OK with it? " x)

[Steveeeie]

ozz, on 18 May 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

Excellent texture work Steeevie
About the floorboards (0880)
I think the nails are a little too perfect, it would be more realistic if they were a bit misaligned.
Either way it still looks great.

It is a fair point, but any inaccuracy would stick out like a saw thumb when tiled. modern engines get away with it because they have vertex painting.

[Night Wolf]

Steveeeie, on 19 May 2013 - 02:24 AM, said:

It is a fair point, but any inaccuracy would stick out like a saw thumb when tiled. modern engines get away with it because they have vertex painting.

Fair enough.

Though the colours should match as they did in 8bit, those two textures are used together quite often, (0880) as the top of the cupboards.

[Steveeeie]

ozz, on 19 May 2013 - 05:42 AM, said:

Fair enough.

Though the colours should match as they did in 8bit, those two textures are used together quite often, (0880) as the top of the cupboards.

I am tweeking both textures now and will upload a modified version later

[Steveeeie]

This is about as good as I can get it as they are different types of wood grain.

I have updated the wood grain on 879_d as I felt the last was a bit blury - blotchy

879_n also had an inverted green channel, so that is now fixed.

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[Steveeeie]

Does anyone know when the next release is going to be?

Here is a run down of what I currently have:

========= THIS RELEASE ========

Toilet - New Model (>10%)
Urinal - New Model ((>10%)
Camera - New Model (>10%)
Rubber Bin - Re-Modeling (0%)

Square Switch (With Round DIal) - (25%) - High Poly Complete
Beer Bottles - (25%) - High Poly Complete
Bar Stool - (25%) - High Poly Complete
Toilet Roll Holder - (25%) - High Poly Complete
C9 (25%) - Needs Re-Texturing and Animating.

Fire Hydrant (75%) - Needs Broken Model.

Portable Medkit (COMPLETE) - Will release with other med kits
Large Medkit - New Model (COMPLETE) - Will release with other med kits
Small Medkit - New Model (25%) - High Poly Completed


======= FUTURE (Possibly Next Release )========

Freeze Ray (50%) Model / Texturing Complete, Needs Animating.
Shotgun (25%) High Poly Complete
Handgun (25%) High Poly Complete
Ripper (10%) Half Way Through High Poly

[Steveeeie]

And back for the first time since it went into hiding; the rubber bin.

its had a little taken off the top, and has gained a bin bag on the inside (not visible in the preview).

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[Mark]

I can include my microphone and stand model. I just need to figure the scale size for the defs.

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[Night Wolf]

Steveeeie, on 20 May 2013 - 11:39 AM, said:

======= FUTURE (Possibly Next Release )========

Freeze Ray (50%) Model / Texturing Complete, Needs Animating.
Shotgun (25%) High Poly Complete
Handgun (25%) High Poly Complete
Ripper (10%) Half Way Through High Poly

Very interested in seeing these.
The Freeze Ray's progress was great.

[Spiker]

The next release will be when Nightfright decides there is enough content to justify it. Shouldn't been too long from now on since you make some awesome contributions. Yeah, I can't wait to see it.

[NightFright]

I mentioned a deadline here (for June 28). However, this is not carved in stone. If you guys need more time, it's not an issue. We are not in a hurry, and if cool stuff is in the pipeline which is worth waiting for, then we wait.

[Steveeeie]

NightFright, on 21 May 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

I mentioned a deadline here (for June 28). However, this is not carved in stone. If you guys need more time, it's not an issue. We are not in a hurry, and if cool stuff is in the pipeline which is worth waiting for, then we wait.

That sounds ok, I may be able to provide some other unknown items by then as well. who would I send a launch surprises to, LeoD?

[TON]

Nice model, but i think the top part should be like the second image

[Mateos]

From the pixel art, it seems the little arcade are a bit "inside" compared to the top and bottom oranged parts?

And the bottom is dirty

That's just details, but as TON I think it's always good and never useless to point details out

[Steveeeie]

I'm not convinced by the shape of the bin either tbh.

I will re visit it

[Paul B]

I have a question... I noticed that people are re-doing some of the textures.. but the ones that really need the work aren't being looked at. I was just curious as to why? For instance tile #904. On my PC it doesn't retain its color with the HRP.

[Steveeeie]

Paul B, on 21 May 2013 - 10:44 AM, said:

I have a question... I noticed that people are re-doing some of the textures.. but the ones that really need the work aren't being looked at. I was just curious as to why? For instance tile #904. On my PC it doesn't retain its color with the HRP.

I re-did 879 and 880 simply because they were my least favorite textures in game (no offence to the original creators intended), and they are used everywhere.

[Paul B]

I meant no disrespect Steveeeie you are doing an awesome job! I enjoy watching your progress!

[Steveeeie]

Paul B, on 21 May 2013 - 11:14 AM, said:

I meant no disrespect Steveeeie you are doing an awesome job! I enjoy watching your progress!

Im not put out or anything

I was just clarifying why I chose to do those

[LeoD]

Spiker, could you please rotate the shotgun and move the origin to the center (length-wise)? It gave me quite some trouble recently when working on map hacks.

Steveeeie, on 21 May 2013 - 02:36 AM, said:

That sounds ok, I may be able to provide some other unknown items by then as well. who would I send a launch surprises to, LeoD?

Actually I'm more in favour of discussing important contributions in before, and especially I should not be the person to decide what's in and what's not, you know. While I have some dedicated opinion about things, I do not have the technical or artistic background to judge contributions. (Of course I'm willing to put generally accepted stuff into the repo and take care of possible Polymost issues and others.) Plus, real life might make me disappear from here for months at any time.
As far as models are concerned, especially pickups, try to preserve the size, aspect ratios, and origin offset of their predecessors to avoid clipping problems. The power connection of your exit sign for example looks really cool but I've seen it clipping into nearby walls or float mid-air in a few user maps so far.

Paul B, on 21 May 2013 - 10:44 AM, said:

I have a question... I noticed that people are re-doing some of the textures.. but the ones that really need the work aren't being looked at. I was just curious as to why?

That's quite typical for small fan/amateur(vs. professional) projects. People usually do what's most fun for them and what they can do best. This does not always cover the actual necessities. While we may consider NightFright as the HRP leader, there is no actual team to lead, but a couple of contributors who pop up with new or updated stuff every now and then. I understand that (re-)doing complicated models or textures which do not appear in-game very often, or only in user maps, is not that attractive.

Paul B, on 21 May 2013 - 10:44 AM, said:

For instance tile #904. On my PC it doesn't retain its color with the HRP.

Could it be related to the hightiles? Or is it just too dark overall? It seems black for me in many maps but when I get closer the colours can be seen.