[Lunick]

The first lawsuit took a long time for nothing to come out of it (publically). We do have to wait indeed

[PokeThePower]

fuegerstef, on 25 February 2014 - 04:30 AM, said:

I remember a post on this forum where wieder (or somebody else with GBX insight) mentioned that GBX themselves thought that DNF was great when they saw it internally ... which in turn backs up what I said earlier that I doubt they can make a good shooter when they thought DNF was one.

What people were responding positively to (especially 2006 and earlier when there was still a lot of churn happening) were all the parts that could be seen as being capable of coming together into something exceptional. Parts that were unheard of elsewhere in the shooter world thus far. Everyone (myself included) were taking it a bit on faith that the project as a whole would be put together to the same standard as all the other top tier games, and these parts alone were enough to push it into something truly special. That never happened. At any point. Lesson learned on my end for sure.

A device can have all the right parts, but if they are put together haphazardly or without a solid meaningful vision of how everything fits together... the machine will fall apart quickly.

It is tragic... but virtually everyone who was associated with it who helped put together all those pieces have moved on to do great work elsewhere.

Barring total collapse of society... my career has barely begun.

[Alithinos]

There is newer news: Some people that are part of Interceptor but not Interceptor itself,bought 3D Realms.
http://www.escapistm...lms-Acquisition

[Lunick]

Alithinos, on 03 March 2014 - 11:49 AM, said:

There is newer news: Some people that are part of Interceptor but not Interceptor itself,bought 3D Realms.
http://www.escapistm...lms-Acquisition

Wow, I had no idea!

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Alithinos, on 03 March 2014 - 11:49 AM, said:

There is newer news: Some people that are part of Interceptor but not Interceptor itself,bought 3D Realms.
http://www.escapistm...lms-Acquisition

Huh, that was know already.

[Besli]

Lunick, on 31 January 2014 - 11:49 PM, said:

Official Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/dukemassdes

This "Official" Facebook page is crap, I think.
DN:CM is part of the Duke Nukem Trilogy,
so here's a better page to look at:
https://www.facebook...ukeNukemTrilogy

In the "Cover Art/Logos" section there you can find some really good stuff!
A hires Apogee logo, a hires Duke Nukem logo with Duke's head in the middle,
a hires Duke Nukem Trilogy logo, two hires versions of only the Trilogy logo,
and two different versions of the XBLA radiation logo.
And also take a look at the "Art/Renders" album.

Here you can find an old version of the DN:CM logo: (with black background)
(And the logos of the other two Duke Nukem Trilogy games)
http://spong.com/gam...cal-Mass-DS-DSi

Here is a hires Version of the new DN:CM logo: (with white background)
http://media.vandal....132316524_1.jpg

Here is the clean render of the DN:CM cover art: (by Kurt Miller)
http://www.evermotio...ork/2015/oldest

And here you can buy a hires print version of it:
http://fineartameric...r/canvas+prints

Here is a pic with different Duke renderings: (also done by Kurt Miller)
http://www.3dartisto...5/critical_mass

Here is the DN:CM radiation logo with a resolution of 1000x1000 pixels:
http://assets2.ignim...njpg-123d5d.jpg

Hope you enjoy.

[Hendricks266]

The Mass Destruction page on Facebook seems to be operated by Interceptor--not "crap".

Mass Destruction is not one of the Trilogy games, which are Critical Mass, Chain Reaction, and Proving Grounds.

Otherwise, there is a lot of good stuff in your links.

[NUKEMDAVE]

Uh, incorrect. Me being the one who maintains the Duke Nukem Trilogy Facebook page, I can assure you Mass Destruction is not part of the Trilogy. Thanks for showing that, though. One of those images is one I haven't seen yet.

Edit: And I'm replying to Besli, but Hendricks beat me to it.

[Besli]

Damn, I've done some big mistake!

Sure the one in the Trilogy is Critical Mass, not Mass Destruction.
Sorry!

[DukeNukem64]

Any news on anything? I am in USA, so I don't really have any internet, and my phone really messes up this page. Thanks.

[Lunick]

DukeNukem64, on 18 March 2014 - 07:01 PM, said:

Any news on anything? I am in USA, so I don't really have any internet, and my phone really messes up this page. Thanks.

The last lawsuit between the two lasted months.

Although I have noticed that Interceptor have said they have good confidence that they acted within reason but they seemed to have also picked up work again on Rise of the Triad 1.4 pretty quickly...

[ReaperMan]

DukeNukem64, on 18 March 2014 - 07:01 PM, said:

I am in USA, so I don't really have any internet

.... WHAT? I don't even.....

[DukeNukem64]

ReaperMan, on 18 March 2014 - 09:10 PM, said:

.... WHAT? I don't even.....

An old Nokia n97 and i am from Denmark.

[Tea Monster]

My wife used to have one of those. It kept falling apart but she loved it.

[DukeNukem64]

Tea Monster, on 22 March 2014 - 03:41 PM, said:

My wife used to have one of those. It kept falling apart but she loved it.

Well, I love it aswell.

[Mr. Tibbs]

http://www.polygon.c...e-nukem-lawsuit

The 3D Realms statement is as follows:

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"On March 17, 2014, 3D Realms filed its answer to the complaint by Gearbox Software in Dallas, Texas. 3DR denies all allegations set forth in the complaint. In its answer, 3DR has submitted evidence showing that Gearbox at no point intended to enter into good faith negotiations but instead sought to force former owners, Scott Miller and George Broussard, to improperly surrender what rightfully belonged to 3DR.

"It is our position that 3DR retains the right to develop the tentatively titled "Duke Nukem Survivor" game for specific platforms. This game was previously licensed for development to Interceptor Entertainment. Furthermore, it is our position that the Trademark for "Duke Nukem" was never assigned to Gearbox, but remains the sole property of 3DR."

Duke Nukem Survivor appears to be the same project as Duke Nukem: Mass Destruction. Polygon has contacted 3D Realms for clarification.

Interceptor Entertainment added a statement:

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"As an independent and young studio, we have been very fortunate to work with companies such as Apogee and 3D Realms on amazing IP's such as Duke Nukem and Rise of the Triad. As true fans of these companies, their games and the amazing minds behind them, we have nothing but respect for the intellectual properties they have created as well as their rightful owners.

"We were extremely excited for our next reveal, but unfortunately due to the actions of Gearbox Software, Interceptor Entertainment decided to put this reveal on hold in respect of their lawsuit. However, 3D Realms and Interceptor Entertainment were rightfully developing our game and as you can imagine we were quite shocked when the accusations by Gearbox arose, as we have always acted within our legal rights. It's unfortunate that Gearbox has shown no intention of finding a peaceful solution with us. We will however continue to work towards a solution."

Edit:

https://twitter.com/...942872084377601

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Pro Tip to my journalist friends: The fastest, easiest way to check ownership of a trademark is at http://www.uspto.gov . Enjoy!

[Ronin]

I don't think I would ever be able to stop laughing if that is true and Shovelware unwitting only bought DNF!

[Lunick]

Mr. Tibbs, on 26 March 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:

https://twitter.com/...942872084377601

That has to be one of the funniest things I have seen this month

[Mr. Tibbs]

According to this document, 3DR (SDN Invest) now deny all allegations and demand a jury trial.

http://www.scribd.co...r-coip-03-19-14

Here's the claims of the defense:

[MusicallyInspired]

Interesting:

http://tmsearch.uspt...=4808:zok35.3.2

EDIT: Bah, link is bad. But looking up Duke Nukem on that trademark search website will lead you to two live trademarks, one for DNF, and one for Duke Nukem.

I'm starting to think that there's more going on behind the scenes than just the past Gearbox acquisition of DNF and apparently the Duke Nukem IP and the last couple lawsuits. I known nothing about legal procedures and loopholes/backdoors, etc, but these actions may be simple means to an end for something we don't know about. It seems like 3DR are doing everything they can to get the Duke Nukem IP "back" while Gearbox are trying to keep it safely buried forever. So far it's given the impression that 3DR have no idea what they're doing, but maybe they do. It's not helping their image, though. Perhaps they just didn't know how best to attack this problem legally but the company that bought them out does?

[Kyanos]

assignment in gross
^ key term. Methinks they have a bit of case here hahaha GBX can suck it

[Jimmy]

I love 3D Realms so much.

[DukeNukem64]

So I am getting really confused. What does all of these texts mean? I don't really understand legal stuff. Are 3D Realms actually saying they never sold Duke Nukem IP rights to GbS? Or are they only fighting for the games that were already in works? Reading legal stuff on your 3rd/4th language is quite difficuilt!

[xMobilemux]

I'm really confused by this as well, not sure what's going on, if they only sold DNF to GBX and the entire IP is theirs, then what the hell was the deal with Duke 3D Reloaded?

God dammit, can someone upvote Mr Tibbs for me, accidentally downvoted him.

[DukeNukem64]

xMobilemux, on 26 March 2014 - 09:23 PM, said:

I'm really confused by this as well, not sure what's going on, if they only sold DNF to GBX and the entire IP is theirs, then what the hell was the deal with Duke 3D Reloaded?

God dammit, can someone upvote Mr Tibbs for me, accidentally downvoted him.

Upvoted him. And I am confused as hell, aswell. But I mean, everyone ''knows'' that Gearbox owns Duke Nukem or what?

[xMobilemux]

Now suddenly Interceptor are apparently doing Duke Time to Kill and Land of the Babes ports, we're only guessing they're ports, they are doing something with those 2 Duke game and they are making a new Duke game.
Jeez, Miller was spot on about the Duke rights being complicated.

[DukeNukem64]

xMobilemux, on 26 March 2014 - 09:32 PM, said:

Now suddenly Interceptor are apparently doing Duke Time to Kill and Land of the Babes ports, we're only guessing they're ports, they are doing something with those 2 Duke game and they are making a new Duke game.
Jeez, Miller was spot on about the Duke rights being complicated.

When did he say that? I remember something about it, but if 3D Realms actually mean they OWN the rights for Duke Nukem, they either made the smartest deal in the history or they have some issues, with themselves.

[Jimmy]

It seems that 3DR thinks their legal team "tricked" Gearbox.

[DukeNukem64]

Jimmy, on 26 March 2014 - 09:43 PM, said:

It seems that 3DR thinks their legal team "tricked" Gearbox.

If they did and Interceptor worked closely Flying Wild Hog.. Hell yeah.

[Lunick]

xMobilemux, on 26 March 2014 - 09:23 PM, said:

I'm really confused by this as well, not sure what's going on, if they only sold DNF to GBX and the entire IP is theirs, then what the hell was the deal with Duke 3D Reloaded?God dammit, can someone upvote Mr Tibbs for me, accidentally downvoted him.

Duke 3D Reloaded was being released for free. It would be like releasing a mod for an engine and getting permission from the right owners otherwise face a possible C&D

xMobilemux, on 26 March 2014 - 09:32 PM, said:

Now suddenly Interceptor are apparently doing Duke Time to Kill and Land of the Babes ports, we're only guessing they're ports, they are doing something with those 2 Duke game and they are making a new Duke game. Jeez, Miller was spot on about the Duke rights being complicated.

Fred posted a folder of Time to Kill stuff but never confirmed what it actually was. Land of the Babes was not mentioned either so no idea where you got that from.