[Kathy]

Bloody brilliant!



All hail Gambini, Mikko and everyone involved.

[Jinroh]

When talented people don't screw around. Always bet on Duke.

[Gambini]

It only takes to be a super awesome utra natural man to lead such project!

Oh wait that´s our trailer

[Ronin]

Very good gents, very good.

[blackharted3]

It's a bloody good and very well done trailer, as I have said. Well done guys, I enjoyed it.

[Mr. Tibbs]

That's the coolest fan trailer I've ever seen! Excellent job.

[darkcaleb]

Anyhow is this going to be released or is it meant for something else?

[TON]

darkcaleb, on 02 April 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:

Anyhow is this going to be released or is it meant for something else?

When it's done

[Bloodshot]

Pretty awesome trailer

[Gambini]

TON, on 02 April 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

When it's done

I like rhymes: When it´s done? When it´s done? before the month is gone.

[uh . . . .]

I think this will be totally awesome, but I agree with Devil Master on the Youtube page, why not use polymer? If it's because you guys want to focus on the other aspects more then that's understandable, but I think it would definitely be fitting and look nicer.

[Micky C]

uh . . . ., on 02 April 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

I think this will be totally awesome, but I agree with Devil Master on the Youtube page, why not use polymer? If it's because you guys want to focus on the other aspects more then that's understandable, but I think it would definitely be fitting and look nicer.

Now as Duke4.net's no. 1 polymer salesman, let me explain several reasons why NOT to use polymer and 3D models for something like this, in no particular order.
For 8-bit art:

• It's much easier and faster to create 8-bit sprites instead of detailed 3D models, making the workload much smaller which gives the authors more motivation to complete the episode (and we don't have to wait so long to play it).
• 8-bit art has it's own charm that can't be replicated with 3D models very well, especially high quality 8-bit art, which is what they're using based on the trailers.

For Polymer:

• Polymer is unfinished. It doesn't support some features like multiple skies amongst other things.
• It has a relatively short draw distance. From what we're told, some of the levels are HUGE, and it would be incredibly ugly and immersion-breaking to see giant chunks of it appear and disappear as you look and move around.
• Polymer is unoptimised. Large levels lag horribly, even when using 8-bit art. Now if you can imagine the only reason to use polymer is of course the polymer lights. If the level is already lagging, imagine how bloody slow it would be if they placed dynamic lights all over the giant outdoor or even indoor areas. It's just not possible to have a playable framerate.

If you want polymer lights, we already have Duke Nukem Eternity, which got away with polymer because DanM designed the levels with polymer in mind, using smaller, enclosed spaces as much as possible, and even that was unplayable for 90% of computers with all the lights. Plus, DNE was a DNF inspired mod, which designed levels and gameplay around what we'd expect in a Duke 3D sequel, using 1 or 2 areas from the trailers occasionally. What Mikko and Gambini seem to have done is pretty much recreate DNF and many of its locations as closely as possible in build (or at least as close as they could given the 6-month development time).

As a result DNF 2013 has a much closer DNF feel, which makes it very cool. So if you want the feel, play DNF 2013, but if you want the graphics, play DNE.

[Player Lin]

I don't mind HRP models but If the game lags/delay/bugged on the polymer and showed out in the the trailer movie, that would be so shitty as hell and ruined whole idea...

[Malgon]

Haha! Just finished watching it and it rocked! Well done guys.

[Night Wolf]

That's pretty fukn impressive! Great work guys.
8bit is where it's at..

[Bloodshot]

I'm curious, will you guys make some replacement weapon sprites, like a new shotgun?

I would really love one with the shoulder strap and the recoil of the 2001 shotty

[Loke]

Hah, Joe just commented on the video.

[PokeThePower]

Hah!

Awesome idea.

[Micky C]

Loke, on 03 April 2013 - 08:45 AM, said:

Hah, Joe just commented on the video.

For those having trouble finding it, this is what he said:

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That's pretty funny.  As someone who was there for all of DNF's development, this made me laugh. The 2001 Trailer is to me still the coolest one ever released.

[Gambini]

Thanks to everybody.

Micky: your post is pretty accurate but this is something i disagree:

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1.It's much easier and faster to create 8-bit sprites instead of detailed 3D models, making the workload much smaller which gives the authors more motivation to complete the episode (and we don't have to wait so long to play it).

I can make good quality models in the same or even less time than some of those sprites i did. I just like them to be sprites.

And the reasons of why not polymer are much simpler: It offers things we don´t really need, as lights and shaders and does not offer some things we do need: as performance and viewable distance.

And, personally, everything I did for this mod was with Software mode in mind, the trailer is recorded in polymost because performance reasons. The mod looks quite good in polymost, and Mikko´s stuff has been done with it in mind. We agreed on doing something that looks as better as possible both ways.

[Micky C]

Ah ok.

I also wanted to say "To take full advantage of polymer lights, it's better to design maps for lights from the beginning rather than add them in after the map is finished" which ultimately won't be as good. As another reason for not using polymer at this stage.

[DavoX]

Friggin awesome!!

[Psyrgery]

Words cannot describe how awesome this is.

[MrFlibble]

I know I'm gonna play Captain Obvious here, but guys. This. Is. AWESOME

Thanks!

[Mikko]

Awesomeness is our Game.

[Spirrwell]

O_O Is that a fully ride-able motorcycle?

Loving the work. Can't wait to play it. But yeah, I would hope that some of the first person sprites would get an update to look like DNF's at the time for a more engaging experience. It's awesome nonetheless.

[Mikko]

Spirrwell, on 04 April 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

O_O Is that a fully ride-able motorcycle?

Yes, but we decided to replace it with a girls' bicycle (with training wheels), because Gambini felt that motorcycles are "faggy".

[MusicallyInspired]

Is that motorcycle image from Full Throttle?

[Gambini]

No. Ben would not lend his Corley to anyone. Duke has his own Harley anyway.

[Bloodshot]

Will there be a handbrake key that lets you turn and do that cool stop/turn from the '01 trailer?