[Mad Max RW]

I understand your situation and I wish you'd be more open about it instead of rolling over for Gearbox. The fans are the reason your game got off the ground, the license you were granted came second.

[Micky C]

What's all the need for speculation? They said to wait a few weeks. Personally I'm willing to wait until the end of the year before I start asking questions. If it falls through, so be it, but it's not like it was in the days of 3DR.

[Jimmy]

[The Commander]

fresch, on 26 September 2011 - 04:27 AM, said:

blablabla

Stay tuned - The game is NOT cancelled.

[rasmus thorup]

I don't know what the 2 posters above me have against DNR, but i trust them. Posting a 3 sec video and a picture doesn't help anything. It's arrogant and stupid. Good luck with DNR, i am looking forward to play it.

[Jimmy]

I can't tell whether you're stupid or a troll, or a stupid troll.

[Mr.Deviance]

What amuses me is how Frech and Fuegerstef are constantly refining their initial message to the point where it doesn't sound short and cryptic anymore and it slowly becomes a respectable message that they should and could have given in the first place, to avoid all of this speculation.
First they were too high up on their horse to give us some news that were not riddled with self importance and cryptic meanings.
Now that they've realized that pretty much their entire fanbase is calling their bullshit out, they are gradually lowering their arrogance and replacing their short cryptic news message, with an actual message that is starting to slowly make sense...
I wonder what will happen if people here continue to call Fresch a bullshiter.
Maybe he will refine his initial message to the point where he will finally tell us how many chances does this project have to get canceled even if it's not officially canceled yet.

What are the chances of finding out in the future that I've yet again lost my time with this topic just like I apparently lost my time with the dukenukemreloaded site and forum by reading them and expecting something out of them...

This is pretty much all that I care to know about.

[rasmus thorup]

Captain Awesome, on 26 September 2011 - 02:25 PM, said:

I can't tell whether you're stupid or a troll, or a stupid troll.

So i am a troll, and you are just the regular idiot posting shit like shut the fuck up all the time.

[Tetsuo]

Either way they are bullshitting us even if it turns out to be "It's just been put on hold while we work out a deal with Gearbox where we put it off so instead of releasing a multiplayer beta we release the whole thing at a future release date" kind of like the thing that happened with GoG where they where saying they where shutting down their site and alarmed people but it turns out they where shutting down the BETA version of the site to relaunch it as a non-beta. BTW, I'm not actually implying that's what's going to happen so no need to get on my case about it it's just an example scenario.

[Spirrwell]

We don't have all the information. We know that DNR is basically finished, we know it's been halted, and we know another game's in the works. We don't know the cause. It could be as simple as a minor license conflict, or somebody with a big ego was given too much power. We DON'T know. I agree with Captain Awesome here, just shut the fuck up. Wait until we know everything.

[Tetsuo]

OK what's the point of having a discussion forum if everyone has to STFU?

[Hank]

Tetsuo, on 26 September 2011 - 04:55 PM, said:

OK what's the point of having a discussion forum if everyone has to STFU?

says who?
Just keep posting. Ignore the trolls, and post your thoughts.

[----]

Mr.Deviance, on 26 September 2011 - 02:31 PM, said:

What amuses me is how Frech and Fuegerstef are constantly refining their initial message to the point where it doesn't sound short and cryptic anymore and it slowly becomes a respectable message that they should and could have given in the first place

Like in the initial news post on the frontpage of Duke4.net that had all the info from the very beginning?

Compare these official news (which even includes that we will revisit DN3DR sometime alongide new creative pursuits), with the things said here.

It is all there (the only thing that was added on the very first page of this thread is that the waiting time is only one or two weeks until further news come). *

Some won't believe me just for the sake of it, but we added this so that you know that you don't have to wait months or so until further news come.

It is the same as with the media embargo, if we could say more we would say more.

But we can't as it would break the agreement with GBX and endanger the whole Duke Nukem Reloaded project. So we try to give away as much as we can without risking that there won't be a DN3D-Reloaded at all in the end.

*) sorry, had to do it.

[randir14]

I remember when the concept for Reloaded first showed up on the Gearbox forums, and people called the guy out for having multiple projects he started and never finished.

[Mad Max RW]

Hmm I wonder why this news is suddenly reaching all the gaming media sites at once. I wonder. Hehe

[----]

Oh? Really

Nobody from team heard or read about it yet. And we didn't tell anybody but one forum member who wanted an interview.

Must check.

EDIT:
Which sites? THe ones I go to have nothing about it.

EDIT 2:
One German site said "acoording to Gearbox", but that is probably false info. Oh, yes, they got it from the site of our forum member.

[Mad Max RW]

Escapist, blues news, n4g, and several other websites broke the news in the last few hours. It's also being discussed in forums such as Evil Avatar, PC Gamer, and a few more I can't remember. Expect to see their home pages updated soon. Basically every website and magazine that announced Duke Nukem Reloaded will cover this because it's their job to do so.

[----]

Yeah, found it on escapist. A lot of false info in the comments for the news, though.

[Mad Max RW]

Yeah, it's funny seeing all the stupid people commenting. I think fresch used too many words to explain something so simple and they got confused.

Interceptor wants to release something. Gearbox says no. Interceptor wants to know when they can release something. Gearbox shrugs shoulders. Interceptor says screw this.

[Spirrwell]

Tetsuo, on 26 September 2011 - 04:55 PM, said:

OK what's the point of having a discussion forum if everyone has to STFU?

Discussing isn't the same as speculating, although one could argue that talking about speculation is considered a "discussion," but it's pointless to make assumptions about things we don't know unless it's painfully obvious, and there seems to be a wide range of possibilities here. So here I am arguing about a discussion about speculation about what happened to a game we don't know too much about with people whom we don't know are behind, whom are bound by a license to a company called Gearbox because of game called Duke Nukem 3D: Reloaded that probably would never have got green lighted in the first place if Duke Nukem was still at 3DR, which means DNF might not have been released. and etc. So let's get back to reality, back to what we know. Going down a not yet unlocked blind alley like this is pointless. You want to discuss what happened, discuss what happened.

[Mad Max RW]

Haha, this is good. I was just informed the people at Gearbox (specifically Adam F) are trying to track my identity so they can potentially sue. I contacted him and asked if giving my phone number would help. No response yet.

[Hank]

Mad Max RW, on 27 September 2011 - 04:09 PM, said:

Haha, this is good. I was just informed the people at Gearbox (specifically Adam F) are trying to track my identity so they can potentially sue. I contacted him and asked if giving my phone number would help. No response yet.

What? This makes no sense.

[Mad Max RW]

It makes sense if you're an asshole with a Napoleon complex. But I am likely being bullshitted with empty threats.

[Mr.Deviance]

Mad Max RW, on 27 September 2011 - 04:09 PM, said:

Haha, this is good. I was just informed the people at Gearbox (specifically Adam F) are trying to track my identity so they can potentially sue. I contacted him and asked if giving my phone number would help. No response yet.

Sue you for what?

[Mad Max RW]

For pretty much shotgun blasting the internet with news and screenshots about DNR's demise. Only a fraction of the sites I emailed have updated yet. Fresch and everybody else at Interceptor are too spineless to do it themselves because they signed a contract. They sold their souls to the devil and didn't get anything in return. I would actually love to have Gearbox call me personally. But, like I said, bullshit and empty threats.

[Person of Color]

http://www.radioshac...lterValue=NET10

Buy this, it comes with 300 minutes IIRC.

Have the lackey at RadioShack activate it in store with their IP address.

Tell them your name is "Lou Skunt" and you live on "123 Main St."

Tell Gearbox to suck it

Not get caught

???

Profit!

[Mad Max RW]

Don't worry, I'm more than covered. My real name has no address, phone number, or any way of direct contact. Nobody can sue me since technically everything I own belongs to somebody else because I intentionally set it up that way to avoid taxes and *surprise* getting sued. My name was never referenced to any of my email addresses. The best they can do is maybe trace my work, and then they'd be in for a real surprise after finding that and my real name.

You think maybe I had to deal with similar stuff before?

[Person of Color]

You're like a modder mixed with a crack dealer.

[Mr.Deviance]

Mad Max RW, on 27 September 2011 - 04:58 PM, said:

For pretty much shotgun blasting the internet with news and screenshots about DNR's demise. Only a fraction of the sites I emailed have updated yet. Fresch and everybody else at Interceptor are too spineless to do it themselves because they signed a contract. They sold their souls to the devil and didn't get anything in return. I would actually love to have Gearbox call me personally. But, like I said, bullshit and empty threats.

Why would GBX give a shit if you went on and spread various news about DNR?
Do you actually think they care that much?
And let's say they do care as much as you say they do, they would have nothing on you to sue you for.
You are just a random user that's spreading the word.
It wouldn't even matter if what you are spreading is truth or lies because you are not gbx's official partner.
You haven't signed any NDA with gbx and you are free to talk as much shit about them as you feel like.
You can even form a political party that's against GBX without getting sued, as far as you are concerned.

[ReaperMan]

Descent, on 27 September 2011 - 05:12 PM, said:

Tell Gearbox to suck it

They already suck 2K's dick..... i don't think they can suck anymore then that.