[Danukem]

Parkar, on May 10 2009, 05:50 AM, said:

I was even thinking something like HL2 or FEAR where it's never even visible.

Fair enough. I'm working on some unrelated modding stuff today, though.

[Alan]

You could state that the flashlight is a hip-mounted flashlight.

I also am having an issue getting Duke Plus to load with the HRP. The HRP content just doesn't show up. I have the eduke32 folder set up with duke3d.grp, and inside that folder are the autoload and DukePlus folders side-by-side. Is this the correct arrangement?

[CarThief]

I noticed something for a while now with shooters.
They dont seem to aim at enemies, even when i set them to. In this case i was using STARPROJ as set projectile, 120 shots, very fast setup, and 2 shooters sharing the same tag.

Im not sure if it has to do with STARPROJ that it wont shoot monsters, it just keeps aiming at the player or some direction.
And i also think STARPROJ is the only type of projectile that requires that you turn the shooter in the opposite direction where you want to fire, when shooting straight forward without targets being set.

Not a very big problem, the shooter acting weird with STARPROJ, but i never got it to actually track and shoot monsters, it does still react to any visible ones, though.

I'm not too familiar with this polymer stuff, is it like some Open GL renderers for games, that it allows for flexible moving lights without sectors doing anything to create that effect? Like say, in Skulltag for Doom 2.
Edit: Nevermind, found some information about it. Looks just like Open GL on skulltag! This will be interesting, hehe...

[Danukem]

Alan, on May 10 2009, 05:59 PM, said:

You could state that the flashlight is a hip-mounted flashlight.

I also am having an issue getting Duke Plus to load with the HRP. The HRP content just doesn't show up. I have the eduke32 folder set up with duke3d.grp, and inside that folder are the autoload and DukePlus folders side-by-side. Is this the correct arrangement?

That is correct. These are the only possible explanations I can think of:

-You have a -noautoload parameter in the .bat file that starts DP
-You are using a polymer build, and the "enable autoload folder" button is not checked in the startup window
-Your copy of dukeplus.def was modified so that it does not have the include duke3d.def line at the top
-You have turned off models and/or textures in the eduke32 video options (remember DP has its own cfg file, so the fact that those things are turned on in vanilla Duke does not mean they will be on in DP)

Maybe there are some other explanations that I missed. Gee, it's fun to sit here and guess. How about posting your eduke32.log file?

[Alan]

-Using Linux. Looked at the .bat file and used the same startup parameters.
-Nope, snapshot from the website. No point in using the Polymer build if I can't run it.
-Nope, that declaration is present.
-Nope, they're all on.

No log file was produced.

[Danukem]

Alan, on May 10 2009, 10:22 PM, said:

No log file was produced.

Is that normal for you? Do log files get made when you play a normal non-DP game?

By the way, I've been assuming that the HRP does load when you play without DP. Please confirm that.

I don't use linux and don't know much about it, so naturally I suspect your OS has something to do with this.

Since you don't have a log to post, could you post your dp.cfg?

[Alan]

DeeperThought, on May 11 2009, 02:05 AM, said:

Is that normal for you? Do log files get made when you play a normal non-DP game?

By the way, I've been assuming that the HRP does load when you play without DP. Please confirm that.

I don't use linux and don't know much about it, so naturally I suspect your OS has something to do with this.

Since you don't have a log to post, could you post your dp.cfg?

Don't see any generated, no.

It does fine when run normal.

Perhaps, since I'm running EDuke32 as a global command.

dp.cfg:

[Controls]
AimingFlag = 1
AutoAim = 1
MouseAimingFlipped = 1
MouseAiming = 0
MouseBias = 0
MouseDeadZone = 0
RunKeyBehaviour = 0
SmoothInput = 1
UseJoystick = 0
UseMouse = 1
WeaponSwitchMode = 3
MouseButton0 = "Fire"
MouseButtonClicked0 = ""
MouseButton1 = "MedKit"
MouseButtonClicked1 = ""
MouseButton2 = "Jetpack"
MouseButtonClicked2 = ""
MouseButton3 = ""
MouseButtonClicked3 = ""
MouseButton4 = "Previous_Weapon"
MouseButtonClicked4 = ""
MouseButton5 = "Next_Weapon"
MouseButtonClicked5 = ""
MouseButton6 = ""
MouseButtonClicked6 = ""
MouseButton7 = ""
MouseButtonClicked7 = ""
MouseButton8 = ""
MouseButton9 = ""
MouseAnalogAxes0 = "analog_turning"
MouseDigitalAxes0_0 = ""
MouseDigitalAxes0_1 = ""
MouseAnalogScale0 = 65536
MouseAnalogAxes1 = "analog_moving"
MouseDigitalAxes1_0 = ""
MouseDigitalAxes1_1 = ""
MouseAnalogScale1 = 65536
Mouse_Sensitivity = 18
JoystickButton0 = "Fire"
JoystickButtonClicked0 = ""
JoystickButton1 = "Strafe"
JoystickButtonClicked1 = "Inventory"
JoystickButton2 = "Run"
JoystickButtonClicked2 = "Jump"
JoystickButton3 = "Open"
JoystickButtonClicked3 = "Crouch"
JoystickButton4 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked4 = ""
JoystickButton5 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked5 = ""
JoystickButton6 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked6 = ""
JoystickButton7 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked7 = ""
JoystickButton8 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked8 = ""
JoystickButton9 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked9 = ""
JoystickButton10 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked10 = ""
JoystickButton11 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked11 = ""
JoystickButton12 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked12 = ""
JoystickButton13 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked13 = ""
JoystickButton14 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked14 = ""
JoystickButton15 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked15 = ""
JoystickButton16 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked16 = ""
JoystickButton17 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked17 = ""
JoystickButton18 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked18 = ""
JoystickButton19 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked19 = ""
JoystickButton20 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked20 = ""
JoystickButton21 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked21 = ""
JoystickButton22 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked22 = ""
JoystickButton23 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked23 = ""
JoystickButton24 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked24 = ""
JoystickButton25 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked25 = ""
JoystickButton26 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked26 = ""
JoystickButton27 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked27 = ""
JoystickButton28 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked28 = ""
JoystickButton29 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked29 = ""
JoystickButton30 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked30 = ""
JoystickButton31 = ""
JoystickButtonClicked31 = ""
JoystickButton32 = "Aim_Down"
JoystickButtonClicked32 = ""
JoystickButton33 = "Look_Right"
JoystickButtonClicked33 = ""
JoystickButton34 = "Aim_Up"
JoystickButtonClicked34 = ""
JoystickButton35 = "Look_Left"
JoystickButtonClicked35 = ""
JoystickAnalogAxes0 = "analog_turning"
JoystickDigitalAxes0_0 = ""
JoystickDigitalAxes0_1 = ""
JoystickAnalogScale0 = 65536
JoystickAnalogDead0 = 1000
JoystickAnalogSaturate0 = 9500
JoystickAnalogAxes1 = "analog_moving"
JoystickDigitalAxes1_0 = ""
JoystickDigitalAxes1_1 = ""
JoystickAnalogScale1 = 65536
JoystickAnalogDead1 = 1000
JoystickAnalogSaturate1 = 9500
JoystickAnalogAxes2 = "analog_strafing"
JoystickDigitalAxes2_0 = ""
JoystickDigitalAxes2_1 = ""
JoystickAnalogScale2 = 65536
JoystickAnalogDead2 = 1000
JoystickAnalogSaturate2 = 9500
JoystickAnalogAxes3 = ""
JoystickDigitalAxes3_0 = "Run"
JoystickDigitalAxes3_1 = ""
JoystickAnalogScale3 = 65536
JoystickAnalogDead3 = 1000
JoystickAnalogSaturate3 = 9500
JoystickAnalogAxes4 = ""
JoystickDigitalAxes4_0 = ""
JoystickDigitalAxes4_1 = ""
JoystickAnalogScale4 = 65536
JoystickAnalogDead4 = 1000
JoystickAnalogSaturate4 = 9500
JoystickAnalogAxes5 = ""
JoystickDigitalAxes5_0 = ""
JoystickDigitalAxes5_1 = ""
JoystickAnalogScale5 = 65536
JoystickAnalogDead5 = 1000
JoystickAnalogSaturate5 = 9500
JoystickAnalogAxes6 = ""
JoystickDigitalAxes6_0 = ""
JoystickDigitalAxes6_1 = ""
JoystickAnalogScale6 = 65536
JoystickAnalogDead6 = 1000
JoystickAnalogSaturate6 = 9500
JoystickAnalogAxes7 = ""
JoystickDigitalAxes7_0 = ""
JoystickDigitalAxes7_1 = ""
JoystickAnalogScale7 = 65536
JoystickAnalogDead7 = 1000
JoystickAnalogSaturate7 = 9500

[Misc]
AltHud = 1
AutoMsg = 0
AutoVote = 0
Color = 0
CrosshairScale = 50
Crosshairs = 1
DeathMessages = 1
DemoCams = 1
Executions = 17
IDPlayers = 1
MPMessageDisplayTime = 120
RunMode = 1
ShowFPS = 0
ShowLevelStats = 0
ShowOpponentWeapons = 0
ShowViewWeapon = 1
StatusBarMode = 0
StatusBarScale = 100
Team = 0
TextScale = 100
UsePrecache = 1
ViewBobbing = 1
WeaponChoice0 = 3
WeaponChoice1 = 4
WeaponChoice2 = 5
WeaponChoice3 = 7
WeaponChoice4 = 8
WeaponChoice5 = 6
WeaponChoice6 = 0
WeaponChoice7 = 2
WeaponChoice8 = 9
WeaponChoice9 = 1
WeaponScale = 100
WeaponSway = 1
CrosshairColor = "255,255,255"

[Setup]
ConfigVersion = 192
ForceSetup = 1
SelectedGRP = "duke3d.grp"

[Screen Setup]
AmbientLight = "1.00"
Detail = 0
GLAnimationSmoothing = 1
GLAnisotropy = 1
GLDetailMapping = 1
GLFullbrights = 1
GLGlowMapping = 1
GLOcclusionChecking = 1
GLParallaxSkyClamping = 1
GLParallaxSkyPanning = 0
GLProjectionFix = 1
GLTextureMode = 1
GLTextureQuality = 1
GLUseCompressedTextureCache = 1
GLUseTextureCacheCompression = 1
GLUseTextureCompr = 1
GLVBOCount = 64
GLVBOs = 1
GLVertexArrays = 1
GLVSync = 0
GLWidescreen = 1
MaxFPS = 0
Messages = 1
OSDHightile = 1
OSDTextMode = 0
Out = 0
Password = ""
ScreenBPP = 32
ScreenGamma = 8
ScreenHeight = 600
ScreenMode = 0
ScreenSize = 4
ScreenWidth = 800
Shadows = 1
Tilt = 1
UseHightile = 1
UseModels = 1
VidBrightness = "0.00"
VidContrast = "1.00"
VidGamma = "1.00"

[Sound Setup]
AmbienceToggle = 1
FXVolume = 220
MusicToggle = 1
MusicVolume = 200
NumVoices = 32
NumChannels = 2
NumBits = 16
MixRate = 48000
ReverseStereo = 0
SoundToggle = 1
VoiceToggle = 5

[KeyDefinitions]
Move_Forward = "Up" ""
Move_Backward = "Down" ""
Turn_Left = "" ""
Turn_Right = "" ""
Strafe = "" ""
Fire = "" ""
Open = "End" ""
Run = "" ""
AutoRun = "CapLck" ""
Jump = "RCtrl" ""
Crouch = "RShift" ""
Look_Up = "" ""
Look_Down = "" ""
Look_Left = "" ""
Look_Right = "" ""
Strafe_Left = "Left" ""
Strafe_Right = "Right" ""
Aim_Up = "" ""
Aim_Down = "" ""
Weapon_1 = "1" ""
Weapon_2 = "2" ""
Weapon_3 = "3" ""
Weapon_4 = "4" ""
Weapon_5 = "5" ""
Weapon_6 = "6" ""
Weapon_7 = "7" ""
Weapon_8 = "8" ""
Weapon_9 = "9" ""
Weapon_10 = "0" ""
Inventory = "Enter" "KpdEnt"
Inventory_Left = "[" ""
Inventory_Right = "]" ""
Holo_Duke = "H" ""
Jetpack = "J" ""
NightVision = "N" ""
MedKit = "M" ""
TurnAround = "BakSpc" ""
SendMessage = "T" ""
Map = "Tab" ""
Shrink_Screen = "-" ""
Enlarge_Screen = "=" ""
Center_View = "" ""
Holster_Weapon = "ScrLck" ""
Show_Opponents_Weapon = "W" ""
Map_Follow_Mode = "F" ""
See_Coop_View = "K" ""
Mouse_Aiming = "U" ""
Toggle_Crosshair = "I" ""
Steroids = "R" ""
Quick_Kick = "`" ""
Next_Weapon = "'" ""
Previous_Weapon = ";" ""
Show_Console = "`" ""
Show_DukeMatch_Scores = "" ""
DUKEPLUS_MENU = "" ""
USE_FLARE = "" ""
RELOAD_ALTFIRE = "" ""

[Comm Setup]
PlayerName = "Duke"
RTSName = "DUKE.RTS"
CommbatMacro#0 = "An inspiration for birth control."
CommbatMacro#1 = "You're gonna die for that!"
CommbatMacro#2 = "It hurts to be you."
CommbatMacro#3 = "Lucky Son of a Bitch."
CommbatMacro#4 = "Hmmm....Payback time."
CommbatMacro#5 = "You bottom dwelling scum sucker."
CommbatMacro#6 = "Damn, you're ugly."
CommbatMacro#7 = "Ha ha ha...Wasted!"
CommbatMacro#8 = "You suck!"
CommbatMacro#9 = "AARRRGHHHHH!!!"

[Danukem]

Sorry, I have no fucking idea what is going on.

[Sweet Potato Vines]

I still can't play dukeplus, any ideas?

[The Commander]

Sweet Potato Vines, on May 11 2009, 07:28 PM, said:

I still can't play dukeplus, any ideas?

Are you using 1.3 version of Duke? You Need 1.4/5

[Plagman]

Try `eduke32 -game_dir DukePlus`.

[supergoofy]

are you using -game_dir dukeplus command ?

Plagman you beat me by 1-2 minutes

[Moggimus]

Is the computer turned on?

[necroslut]

For me it must have been some junk files in the DP directory, after I deleted it and did a clean install of DP it works again (which I of course should have tried before posting...), maybe it was the def file, I don't know.

[Sweet Potato Vines]

moggimus, on May 10 2009, 11:38 PM, said:

Is the computer turned on?

Bah, of course thats it!

Ok, actually, I'm pretty sure I don't have any updated version of Duke. are you talking about version 1.4 for eduke or for Duke Nukem itself?, because I ran the eduke that came in the DukePlus.zip.

[Alan]

The difference between 1.3D and 1.4/5 is in the group file.

[Danukem]

necroslut, on May 11 2009, 01:17 AM, said:

For me it must have been some junk files in the DP directory, after I deleted it and did a clean install of DP it works again (which I of course should have tried before posting...), maybe it was the def file, I don't know.

This is why tech support people often recommend doing clean installs. It usually fixes the problem and it's easier than figuring out what it is.

In this case, it only takes a minute. Just extract dukeplus.rar into an empty folder, add a copy of duke3d.grp, and you are good to go. I would recommend this to anyone who is having inexplicable problems before posting.

[KillerBudgie]

How's the DukePlus Community Build Project coming along?

[Danukem]

KillerBudgie, on May 11 2009, 09:24 AM, said:

How's the DukePlus Community Build Project coming along?

That map is nearing completion. DPCBP and a new map by Mia Max will both be included in the next update. There is no release date but I am tentatively predicting it will be around June 1st.

[Mikko]

DPCBP is amazing, thanks to its selling point, the DukePlus skycar.

DeeperThought, on May 11 2009, 07:20 PM, said:

Just extract dukeplus.rar into an empty folder, add a copy of duke3d.grp, and you are good to go. I would recommend this to anyone who is having inexplicable problems before posting.

Don't forget Duke3d and Eduke32 config files.

[Danukem]

Mikko_Sandt, on May 11 2009, 10:08 AM, said:

Don't forget Duke3d and Eduke32 config files.

I didn't forget, I purposefully omitted them. If someone is having an unexplained problem, the config files might have something to do with it. For example, a bad Mod Dir setting can make it impossible to save games.

[KillerBudgie]

DeeperThought, on May 11 2009, 05:45 PM, said:

That map is nearing completion. DPCBP and a new map by Mia Max will both be included in the next update. There is no release date but I am tentatively predicting it will be around June 1st.

The 'Haunted Castle' map and the DPCBP will probably be the biggest f*** off maps everyone will be playing once the next update is released. I can't wait to play them myself.

[Reaper_Man]

Congrats on all of your progress on this project DT.

[Jimmy]

Is the DPCBP the same map that I had also worked on, or is it a new one now?

[Dr. Kylstein]

Alan, on May 11 2009, 02:27 AM, said:

Don't see any generated, no.

It does fine when run normal.

Perhaps, since I'm running EDuke32 as a global command.

The log is output in the current working directory, usually one's home directory.

I've found that -game_dir only works with absolute paths, and that DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES.zip needs to be extracted in order to work. Also, when EDuke32 starts up, make a note of the addsearchpath statements in the messages window. Only files in those paths will be usable, and the DukePlus folder needs to be one of them.

[Danukem]

Dr. Kylstein, on May 11 2009, 03:34 PM, said:

The log is output in the current working directory, usually one's home directory.

I've found that -game_dir only works with absolute paths, and that DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES.zip needs to be extracted in order to work. Also, when EDuke32 starts up, make a note of the addsearchpath statements in the messages window. Only files in those paths will be usable, and if the DukePlus folder needs to be one of them.

Alan was talking about getting the HRP to work with DP, he wasn't having any problem with DP itself AFAIK. But thanks for the information. I didn't realize that the resources were not loading in linux because of the zip. The only reason I started zipping them was for the HRP uninstaller, but now I'm thinking it isn't worth it.

[Dr. Kylstein]

DeeperThought, on May 11 2009, 06:40 PM, said:

I didn't realize that the resources were not loading in linux because of the zip. The only reason I started zipping them was for the HRP uninstaller, but now I'm thinking it isn't worth it.

I have no idea how that works. I thought EDuke32 only loaded archives that it is instructed to load, which is what happens on my system.

[Danukem]

Dr. Kylstein, on May 11 2009, 04:59 PM, said:

I have no idea how that works. I thought EDuke32 only loaded archives that it is instructed to load, which is what happens on my system.

It also automatically loads archives that are inside the selected game directory. At least that's how it works for me and others who aren't using linux.

[Plagman]

Dr. Kylstein, on May 12 2009, 12:34 AM, said:

I've found that -game_dir only works with absolute paths, and that DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES.zip needs to be extracted in order to work.

Why would you have to extract it? It loads it fine if it's in the specified game_dir. What does your log say about it?

[Alan]

Dr. Kylstein, on May 11 2009, 06:34 PM, said:

The log is output in the current working directory, usually one's home directory.

Thanks! I was expecting it to show up in the ~/.eduke32 folder.

At any rate...

EDuke32 1.5.0devel 20090131
Application parameters: -game_dir DukePlus -forcegl 
addsearchpath(): Added /home/alan/
addsearchpath(): Added /home/alan/.eduke32/
Initializing SDL system interface (compiled against SDL version 1.2.12, found version 1.2.12)
Loading libGL.so.1
Loading libGLU.so.1
Using "x11" video driver
Using config file 'eduke32.cfg'.
Scanning for GRP files...
Using group file 'duke3d.grp' as main group file.
Using group file 'autoload/duke3d.grp/duke3d_hrp.zip'.
Using group file 'autoload/duke3d.grp/eduke32_mus.zip'.
Using group file 'autoload/duke3d.grp/maphacks.zip'.
Compiling: EDUKE.CON (27 bytes)
Including: dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON (552873 bytes)
Using DEF file: dukeplus.def.
Wrote eduke32.cfg
Wrote eduke32_binds.cfg
Using config file 'DukePlus/dp.cfg'.
Including: DEFS.CON (35992 bytes)
Including: USER.CON (45482 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/DEFSPLUS.CON (39370 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/USERPLUS.CON (53154 bytes)
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON (21535 bytes)
DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON: In actor `SECTOR_CONTROLLER':
DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON:405: warning: `nullop' found without `else'
DukePlus/dpcons/LIGHTS.CON:405: warning: empty `else' branch
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/HUDPLUS.CON (60751 bytes)
Resizing code buffer to 32768*4 bytes
Including: DukePlus/dpcons/PLAYERPLUS.CON (106730 bytes)
Resizing code buffer to 65536*4 bytes
Resizing code buffer to 131072*4 bytes
dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON: In event `EVENT_PROCESSINPUT':
dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON:25538: warning: found `ifsound' outside of a local event.
dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON:25546: warning: found `ifsound' outside of a local event.
Found 4 warning(s), 0 error(s).
Resizing code buffer to 102120*4 bytes
Script compiled in 172ms
Compiled code size: 102112*4 bytes, version 1.4+
Pointer bitmap size: 12765 bytes
2778/11264 labels, 642/2048 variables
287/16384 quotes, 46 quote redefinitions
33/88 event definitions, 388 defined actors
Initialized 32.0M cache
RTS file DUKE.RTS was not found
Initializing OSD...
0 joystick(s) found
Setting video mode 800x600 (32-bpp windowed)
OpenGL Information:
 Version:  2.1.8087 Release
 Vendor:   ATI Technologies Inc.
 Renderer: ATI Radeon X1200 Series
Cache contains 0 bytes of garbage data
Initializing music...
Initializing sound...
Initializing MultiVoc... 
  - 32 voices, 512 byte mixing buffers
Executing "DukePlus/dp_binds.cfg"
UDP net deinitialized successfully.
 
Uninitializing MultiVoc...
Wrote DukePlus/dp.cfg
Wrote DukePlus/dp_binds.cfg