[Tetsuo]

Nice canisters! I look forward to seeing them in the HRP!

[Steveeeie]

Mark., on 02 January 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

With more models of this quality you're going to be a popular guy around here.

Thanks Mark.

I'm hoping to go through most of the environmental props and see if there is much I can improve on. hopefully doing 3 - 5 a week.

[Steveeeie]

Anybody know where there is an airlock sign in game.. that I can get to easily?

Even better if somebody can provide me with a save standing next to one!

Will get my model all md3'd up.

[Micky C]

Steveeeie, on 02 January 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

Also is there any way of increasing the normal and specular strength?

Yes, but for the life of me I can't find any information about it on the wiki

Edit: About the airlock sign, why not just look it up in mapster? Or maybe export the original tile out of the grp so you can look at it. If you going to be sticking around you should definitely get familar with navigating around mapster32, it's pretty easy if all you're doing is looking.

[ReaperMan]

Nice work Steveeeie!

[Steveeeie]

ReaperMan, on 02 January 2013 - 06:29 PM, said:

Nice work Steveeeie!

Thanks Reaper!

Last Update For Tonight,

Tested the Airlocks by replacing the canisters, They actually look better than I expected imo.

Will work on adding them properly tomorrow evening.

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[Plagman]

Steveeeie, on 02 January 2013 - 06:19 PM, said:

Thanks Mark.

I'm hoping to go through most of the environmental props and see if there is much I can improve on. hopefully doing 3 - 5 a week.

I agree; great models. One thing about the canister, can you also post the DEF snippet you used with the specular material, parallax strength, etc? If you haven't fine-tuned yet you can preview changes in the editor using the info on this page:

http://wiki.eduke32....script_examples

Also, be careful about just doing props as you come across them; some sprites are completely unused ingame and only appear in user map. I think that's the case with that airlock sign?

[Steveeeie]

Plagman, on 02 January 2013 - 11:19 PM, said:

Also, be careful about just doing props as you come across them; some sprites are completely unused ingame and only appear in user map. I think that's the case with that airlock sign?

My idea is to do the models on a "by level" bases, so to begin with I will be looking to redo every model inside Hollywood Holocaust (probably in no particular order). and then I will move on to the later levels.

I only really did the airlock sign because I saw it requested and I thought I would have a go.

[Plagman]

That all sounds great to me. Thanks for contributing!

[Mark]

Its being used in 2 of my maps so I'm happy to see it.

[Hendricks266]

Steveeeie,

Great models!

This is a 7-Zip file containing all the Duke art tiles in PNG format with transparency. Use the files included as references when building for accuracy to size, proportion, and color.

[LeoD]

Steveeeie, on 02 January 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

Anybody know where there is an airlock sign in game.. that I can get to easily?

User maps only. Cherenkov for example, right at the beginning.

Mark., on 02 January 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

I'm assuming you mean we need a model version. There is a higher res version of the sprite in the HRP. IIRC it was one of mine.

Oops, I somehow missed that (bad mondaywednesday - oh boy...). But the request for a model still stands. In E4L4 you can't reach the place where a model is more suitable without DNCLIP, but sometimes it is used in user maps instead of genericpole. The latter's model seems to have some issues (too short?) as can be seen in Roch and Dogville2012, but I didn't have an extensive look into that yet.

[Mark]

I did a quick check of the genericpole sprite and model in a test map. Sized at player height they look the same.

[Steveeeie]

Airlock Sign Attached.

Add this to signs.def

// Airlock Sign (594)
model "highres/sprites/signs/0594_airlock.md3" {
   scale 1.25 shade 0
   skin { file "highres/sprites/signs/0594_airlock.png" }
   normal { file "highres/sprites/signs/0594_airlock_n.png" }
   specular { file "highres/sprites/signs/0594_airlock_s.png" }
   glow { file "highres/sprites/signs/0594_airlock_g.png" }
   frame { name "Frame 0" tile 594 }
}

Attached File(s)

•  airlock.zip (2.96MB)
  Number of downloads: 246

[LeoD]

Steveeeie, on 05 January 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

Airlock Sign Attached.

Thanks! Will show up in the repo later this evening.

Additional thanks to Roma Loom for 4103.

[Steveeeie]

LeoD, on 05 January 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

Thanks! Will show up in the repo later this evening.

Additional thanks to Roma Loom for 4103.

Your welcome

Noob question ..

Repo ?

[Plagman]

This:

http://svn.eduke32.c...ame=polymer_hrp

[Steveeeie]

Plagman, on 05 January 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

This:

http://svn.eduke32.c...ame=polymer_hrp

Oh cool, could I have access to that?

[Steveeeie]

Here is the new exit sign enjoy.

Removed (Newer Version Below)

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[LeoD]

LeoD, on 05 January 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

Thanks! Will show up in the repo later this evening.

Done.

Steveeeie, on 05 January 2013 - 02:33 PM, said:

Oh cool, could I have access to that?

Here you go.

Steveeeie, on 05 January 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

Here is the new exit sign enjoy.

Oops, download incomplete: 0961_exit_14.png is missing.
Btw., current naming "convention", introduced by me when necromancing Polymost HRP, is like:
0961_exit.png -> 0961_exit_d.png
0961_exit_14.png -> 0961_exit_14_d.png

Steveeeie, on 05 January 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

... make sure to remove the old exit sign.

Hm, maybe I'll keep it for Polymost HRP. Let's see ... but that's nothing the Polymer contributors need to care about.

[Plagman]

Steveeeie, on 05 January 2013 - 02:33 PM, said:

Oh cool, could I have access to that?

You can already check it out anonymously at this URL:

http://svn.eduke32.com/polymer_hrp

I can hook you up with an account for write access if needed, but generally it's better if whoever acts as the maintainer at the time stays in charge of monitoring that thread and committing any additions after sanity checking the DEF, removing extra files, etc; which avoids duplicated work and conflicts. These days it's mostly LeoD, I think. Is that cool with you?

[Steveeeie]

Heres the updated exit sign.

There is a problem with my code though, and the green sign shows instead of the red sign, could somebody look at this and post a fix :

// Exit (961)
texture 961 { pal 0 { file "highres/sprites/signs/0961.png" } }
model "highres/sprites/signs/0961_exit.md3" {
   scale 17 zadd 1 shade 0
   skin { file "highres/sprites/signs/0961_exit_d.png" }
   normal { file "highres/sprites/signs/0961_exit_n.png" }
   specular { file "highres/sprites/signs/0961_exit_s.png" }
   glow { pal 0  file "highres/sprites/signs/0961_exit_g.png" }
   glow { pal 14 file "highres/sprites/signs/0961_exit_14_g.png" } 
   frame { name "Frame 0" tile 961 }
}

Attached File(s)

•  exit-1.zip (862.91K)
  Number of downloads: 183

[Hendricks266]

Steveeeie, on 06 January 2013 - 09:01 AM, said:

Heres the updated exit sign.

There is a problem with my code though, and the green sign shows instead of the red sign, could somebody look at this and post a fix:

Hi Steveeeie,

There is no faculty to define separate glowmaps for separate palettes. For now, you need to have separately colored diffuse maps. It should work to simply layer the glow on the diffuse manually.

It may be helpful to read my note about glow maps but I think you've got the right idea. I like the translucent checkerboard effect on the airlock sign.

Another need for revision is that your airlock uses four 1024x1024 textures, which is a lot of RAM for a small sign. 512x512 should be sufficient, in theory. What do you think?

Good work on these!

By the way, did you see this?

Hendricks266, on 03 January 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

This is a 7-Zip file containing all the Duke art tiles in PNG format with transparency. Use the files included as references when building for accuracy to size, proportion, and color.

[Roma Loom]

Steveeeie, splendid work on details which are impossible to get from original sprites due to the obvious reasons. Also probably airlock sign indicators are placed under glass, in this case the glass on specular map should be made quite brighter than the metal to give noticable gloss effect, if it's not the glass then never mind. Keep up the excellent work.



LeoD, another usermap tile from your list uploaded to svn:

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[Steveeeie]

Hendricks266, on 06 January 2013 - 10:43 AM, said:

There is no faculty to define separate glowmaps for separate palettes. For now, you need to have separately colored diffuse maps. It should work to simply layer the glow on the diffuse manually.

That is a bit of a pain, I could do it the way you have suggested, but then the signs wont glow, they will just be coloured, if its the only solution, its the only solution I guess.

Hendricks266, on 06 January 2013 - 10:43 AM, said:

Another need for revision is that your airlock uses four 1024x1024 textures, which is a lot of RAM for a small sign. 512x512 should be sufficient, in theory. What do you think?

That is up to you guys, I'm just giving out the best I can, so if I eventually disappear (not planned) then you have larger maps if future releases call for it.

Hendricks266, on 06 January 2013 - 10:43 AM, said:

By the way, did you see this?

Yup seen that, have a folder on my desktop, I thought I had given you some rep for it

[Roma Loom]

Steveeeie, on 06 January 2013 - 12:15 PM, said:

That is up to you guys, I'm just giving out the best I can, so if I eventually disappear (not planned) then you have larger maps if future releases call for it.

Yep, You'd better release it as is and LeoD or anyone else who has access will downsize it upon uploading to svn

[BuddhaMaster]

Of course I downloaded the new updated released christmas.

The new Shotgun is nice. But the animation looks strange and jerky. Is this on purpose?
It kind of looks strange when Duke cocks the gun and the recoil fire is still attached to the barrel, also there is a strange "hickup" in the animation. The previous shotgun felt much better!

Also the pistol looks very nice under certain lighting conditions. When there is no light spotting the gun nearby it kind of looks even flatter than the previous updated model.
I think the texture should look a bit more like metal even if there is no light nearby.
As did the gun 2 updates back.

Thank you!

[LeoD]

Roma Loom, on 06 January 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

Yep, You'd better release it as is and LeoD or anyone else who has access will downsize it upon uploading to svn

Too late , will do that later. But maybe that's a good way to go anyway: upload the full size version first, then downsize it. So we are able to revert to the higher resolution at any time.

[Roma Loom]

LeoD, on 06 January 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

Too late , will do that later. But maybe that's a good way to go anyway: upload the full size version first, then downsize it. So we are able to revert to the higher resolution at any time.

That's good idea.

[LeoD]

Roma, I'm not sure if the new 4210 is heading into the right direction. Like in E4L7 (XXX-Stacy) it is often used in user maps as an indoor/office/cubicle wall texture. I always thought of it as some kind of ingrain wallpaper which is now turned into concrete.

More opinions, anyone?