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Duke Nukem: Mass Destruction  "All Out Of Gum aka Gearbox foils Interceptor's plan again"

User is offline   OpenMaw 

  • Judge Mental

#811

I don't doubt TerminX at his word. That's not even something I would begin to question. TX has done more for this community than most of us put together. I have zero faith in the jugglers of the Duke Nukem IP, though. They don't seem to get the character, and they don't understand how to interact with their audience.


What i'm angry about is that this franchise has consistently for over a decade now been treated to these coy games, long stretches of silence, and then abortions of projects. It's getting old. If they really do have such a firm leg to stand on, this should be an open and shut case. They should have vetted this more thoroughly before announcing and putting out all this nonsense.

I doubt at this point, given the countdown clock at the top of the nogumneeded page that there is any 'hope' that this will be a Duke game. I think that's bold-faced self deception. They may have thought they had the rights to something, and it turned out not to be the case, so they had to backtrack and reconfigure things. Maybe that'll even be for the best. If it is something along the lines of Bombshell taking Duke's place. That might fit better since she's an unknown entity with a new gamestyle. The point is, we don't know, and the reason we don't know is because they haven't said anything. Legal issues? Maybe. How about a statement with something as simple as "we changed direction" "we're still going forward as we planned" "The ongoing legal issues have blah-de-blah." instead of the same old song for Duke.


Timeline for the modern Duke game:
ANNOUNCE -- HYPE -- SILENCE -- SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS -- SILENCE -- SILENCE -- SILENCE... FLATLINE.

Projects either end up dead, released in a poor state, or turn into something else.
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User is offline   MrBlackCat 

#812

What does everything have to be a gimmick? Gimmicks and teasers were not necessary with Duke Nukem 3D, Wolfenstein 3D, and most other games from the era. I realize the development cycles were shorter of course. I have WAY too many projects and because of that I seldom mention any of them and they are total surprises when presented. (not gaming related stuff).

As described above, this seems to be an ongoing load of crap relative to Duke Nukem games... SIX handheld games? And we get ONE?! (almost)

Although I don't make TC's, Mods and add-ons etc for Duke Nukem, look at all the incomplete projects even with those. If you look closely, you will see over and over the underlying motivation is misguided, at least in my opinion. They start out strong with "an idea" seemingly "for approval" or seem to come fishing "for motivation" or some other socially based reason... and they seldom finish. The ones that are usually finished are the ones that would be finished even if no one else cares.

The motivation is just one aspect of it, but I relate finishing or not, planning or not, to personal integrity.

I have a lot of respect for all the people here who complete so much, and I mean no disrespect to those who are unable to complete such things, not from lack of motivation, but simply don't have time, which is a different thing all together. Shit happens, yes, but poor planning, lack of professionalism, and low integrity are the reasons I see for most of the "fails"... but I am biased against gemmicky crap anyway.

MrBlackCat

This post has been edited by MrBlackCat: 29 April 2014 - 06:28 PM

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User is offline   Jimmy 

  • Let's go Brandon!

#813

View PostCommando Nukem, on 29 April 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

This series has been so wracked by developers and publishers who just can't seem to release jack or shit without huge problems. The last Duke game to come out that didn't eat total crap, was Manhattan Project. That's from 2002. Ever since then it's been re-releases, or projects that have been cut down/stalled out in development limbo.

Lets not forget that game practically killed both Sunstorm Interactive and ARUSH Entertainment. And not because it was a bad game either. Just because it wasn't DNF.
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User is offline   xMobilemux 

#814

Interceptor/3D Realms upcoming game will be a bad thing for them if it's not Duke, because every single person who knows Interceptor/3D Realms today has seen all the evidence linking it to a Duke game and so has a lot of non Duke fans, if they just show up with a different game then they're going to be seen as lairs and using Duke to get attention, that will be instant negative for the "New 3D Realms" and will just add more bad on 3D Realm's already bad reputation and Interceptor will suffer for it too, plus everyone will remember it.
They'll also be seen as a joke company with their claims to the Duke IP, a company that has no idea what they're doing and so on with all the statements they given regarding the Duke IP.
If it is a Duke game however and is a good game, then Interceptor has a great future ahead of them and so does the New 3D Realms.

On the bright side of this not being a Duke game, at least we don't have to worry about Duke being fucked up even more with a dark, gritty and serious make over.

I still think it's a Duke game, because it would be stupid for a young company like Interceptor to waste all their money on Duke development, hiring JSJ and all. Plus the #DukeNukem twitter feed is still linked to the countdown website.
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User is offline   Hool 

#815

Even if it is Duke, what are the chances that people who aren't the fans even care about it? Duke as a character has become a running joke with an awful punch line after the trainwreck that is Duke Nukem Forever. As much as I would want another Duke Nukem game, it's the fact that the Duke franchise is barely holding itself together with sticks and glue. We get announcements then eerie silence then some news from some gaming website speculating whether or not the game has been cancelled/postponed/delayed and we end right back where we took off from.

Nevertheless, I hope something positive comes out from all of this. It's been too long since we've had a proper Duke outing (the ports and re-releases don't count).
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User is offline   Inspector Lagomorf 

  • Glory To Motherland!

#816

It makes me curious why Gearbox is intent on holding onto the Duke Nukem IP at all, for the above reason. The very concept of the Duke Nukem franchise, because of the hype circus that was DNF, has become arsenic to any self-respecting publishing company.
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User is offline   TerminX 

  • el fundador

  #817

The buyback in the APA is probably for more than anyone else will pay for it at this point.
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User is online   Lunick 

#818

Something strange but the Facebook page has disappeared, not sure when that happened though but it was almost at 2000 likes.
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User is offline   Tea Monster 

  • Polymancer

#819

View PostDuke64Nukem, on 03 February 2014 - 10:50 AM, said:

I Give us more Duke don't care what it is man damn i just want the option to be able to play more Duke.

Careful what you wish for, or the nice people who brought you Aliens Colonial Marines might just hear you.

This post has been edited by Tea Monster: 02 May 2014 - 05:52 AM

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User is offline   Inspector Lagomorf 

  • Glory To Motherland!

#820

View PostTea Monster, on 02 May 2014 - 05:50 AM, said:

Careful what you wish for, or the nice people who brought you Aliens Colonial Marines might just hear you.


How about "Just Dance: Duke Nukem Edition"?
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User is offline   Tea Monster 

  • Polymancer

#821

"My Little Pony: Come Get Some Edition"
or (shudder)

"Sims: Hail to the King Pack"

This post has been edited by Tea Monster: 02 May 2014 - 07:10 AM

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#822

On April 29th, 3D Realms filed a bunch of trademark applications. They were 2 x 3D Realms Accelerate, 1 x 3D Realms Reality Is Our Game, 1 x Reality Is Our Game, 2 x 3D Realms and interestingly in the context of Mass Destruction(presumably) 1 x this:

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User is offline   Outtagum 

#823

Female Bionic Commando?
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User is offline   NUKEMDAVE 

#824

Bombshell has been literally bombshell'd.
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#825

View PostKristian Joensen, on 08 May 2014 - 06:42 AM, said:

On April 29th, 3D Realms filed a bunch of trademark applications. They were 2 x 3D Realms Accelerate, 1 x 3D Realms Reality Is Our Game, 1 x Reality Is Our Game, 2 x 3D Realms and interestingly in the context of Mass Destruction(presumably) 1 x this:

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I don't doubt you Kristian, but how do you know this? I am trying to search the web but I am unable to find these B)
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#826

View PostDukeNukem64, on 09 May 2014 - 03:36 AM, said:

I don't doubt you Kristian, but how do you know this? I am trying to search the web but I am unable to find these B)


I used the trademark search system at www.uspto.gov and entered "Apogee Software" in the search field and selected "owner name and address" as the search criteria.
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User is offline   Player Lin 

#827

I guess someone forgot the legal name of 3D Realms is Apogee Software... B)

That women picture still not sure she is Bombshell or not, just an " illustration drawing". Since they didn't filed "Bombshell" at all, except a lot of them but already dead long time ago.
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#828

View PostPlayer Lin, on 09 May 2014 - 06:39 AM, said:

I guess someone forgot the legal name of 3D Realms is Apogee Software... B)

That women picture still not sure she is Bombshell or not, just an " illustration drawing". Since they didn't filed "Bombshell" at all, except a lot of them but already dead long time ago.


The Bombshell trademark with filing date December 15, 2011 is very much live.
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User is offline   Soap DX 

#829

I have an idea; You release the game with Bombshell as your main protagonist. Remove anything Duke Nukem related.
Then when the court case is over, IF you win, you release Duke as a playable character in Free DLC, adding him to the world. ORRR you ask for special permission to make him DLC.

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That way you get your game out the door and can start working on something else. Instead of creating more delays and waits. You might not get your Duke Game out, but at least you cut your looses and move on, instead of letting it drag you into a bottomless pit of nothingness.

Also the I agree with the Rant of Commando Nukem, cut the crap, it's not fun anymore.

This post has been edited by Soap DX: 09 May 2014 - 08:59 AM

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User is offline   K100 

#830

From Interceptor's facebook.

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User is offline   mpuone 

#831

Fred strikes again with the blurry pics
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#832

View Postmpuone, on 09 May 2014 - 11:45 AM, said:

Fred strikes again with the blurry pics

But this time, we're prepared! After examining the image through a hyper-sophisticated array of hyper-advanced image algorithms, I have come to the conclusion that there is, in fact, some sort of thing of some nature in this picture:

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Hmm, I guess that didn't clear up as much as I thought it would. But wait! What if I added a few minor enhancements:

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Oh my gosh, it's really happening!
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User is offline   Rexus 

#833

View PostMarphy Black, on 09 May 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

But this time, we're prepared! After examining the image through a hyper-sophisticated array of hyper-advanced image algorithms, I have come to the conclusion that there is, in fact, some sort of thing of some nature in this picture:

*snip*

Hmm, I guess that didn't clear up as much as I thought it would. But wait! What if I added a few minor enhancements:

*snip*

Oh my gosh, it's really happening!


And i thought that i was the only one who had tried to remove the blur in that picture. B)

This post has been edited by Rexus: 09 May 2014 - 12:38 PM

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User is offline   Mr. Tibbs 

#834

From Scott Miller's Facebook.

Quote

A tease.

Announcement coming.

Originally conceived in 1997.


https://www.facebook.com/Mi11er
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User is offline   Jblade 

#835

BOY I CAN'T WAIT ITS LIKE THEY'VE ONLY VAGUELY ALLUDED TO AN UPCOMING ANNOUNCEMENT 50 TIMES ALREADY!!!!!
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User is offline   Kyanos 

#836

View PostJames, on 09 May 2014 - 01:19 PM, said:

BOY I CAN'T WAIT ITS LIKE THEY'VE ONLY VAGUELY ALLUDED TO AN UPCOMING ANNOUNCEMENT 50 TIMES ALREADY!!!!!


QFT
&
FIFY

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User is offline   Mr. Tibbs 

#837

I thought the interesting part was the "originally conceived in 1997" bit. That pretty much confirms it's a Bombshell game, right?
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User is offline   NUKEMDAVE 

#838

I have a feeling Duke probably won't be replaced. It seems it was going to have both Bombshell and Duke in the game, so they just removed Duke. I kind of wonder if they knew there was a chance that Gearbox could attempt to stop the game from the beginning, so they included Bombshell as insurance. Still, some people are probably going to be disappointed. If anyone has been paying attention to the Twitter feed on the site, some people still think it's Duke.
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User is offline   ReaperMan 

#839

That is clearly a blurry woman pic.... and if you squint the face looks like Bill Clinton's face.

This post has been edited by ReaperMan: 09 May 2014 - 02:35 PM

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User is offline   OpenMaw 

  • Judge Mental

#840

And if you look to the left it's a not Duke Nukem game.


When it's done!
Stay Tuned!
Few could have predicted...



FUCK YOU. Nah, I take that back. It's not worth it anymore. The point of no return for the Duke franchise was back in mid 2006 when 3D Realms suffered the max exodus of employees. After that there was no real hope. Yet the curse seems to linger over any residual products. The same hype games over and over again.

Spoiler


I also want to preempt any remarks that I am a hater. No I am not. I'm wearing a T-shirt with a Nuke logo on it. I think that proves where my loyalty lies. These games were mildly amusing between 2006 and 2008. They stopped being funny after we were all teary eyed at the demise of 3D Realms. And if you go back into this thread you'll see I was cautiously optimistic regarding this game. Why? Young mind, fresh ideas. New directions. I'm totally fine with that. It's a good thing, even. Given that Duke Forever was almost nothing but nostalgia crossed with modern military shooter DNA. My cautious optimism has rapidly sunk into abject apathy towards any official product. Especially when we cannot even get one. simple. confirmation. What are you hyping? What. Are. You. Hyping? No other company in the history of gaming has acted this way about their game franchises before. This is strictly an Apogee/3D Realms thing.

This post has been edited by Commando Nukem: 09 May 2014 - 04:08 PM

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