[Malgon]

I hope a similar arsenal will make it into the game (I loved the Nuke Launcher and its 3 second countdown), unless they're going to ground it a bit more.

[OpenMaw]

 Duke Rocks, on 21 May 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:

Trivia time!

I had no clue that IRL John Galt is a black belt in both Kung Fu and Taekwondo.

He also voiced President LBJ in both Forrest Gump and Oliver Stone's JFK....albeit not in his Lo Wang accent/dialect.

I got a total non-answer from Scott Miller on whether John Galt was involved or not.

I've very much of two minds about this project right now. Shadow Warrior was never my favorite game in the world, but I did like it. I think that the original holds a lot of potential for expansion and fleshing out a bit more in a next gen world. (I Always felt the ninja elements were somewhat underdeveloped and could see a better melee system coming into play for the sword and ninja-centric weaponry.)

But, seriously, if they don't have the right voice behind Lo Wang... No matter their "new take." I will consider this D.O.A.

Also, apparently this game isn't going to just be rad, but "Super fucking rad" or something according to a recent tweet. Hm.

[Kathy]

 Duke Rocks, on 21 May 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:

I had no clue that IRL John Galt is a black belt in both Kung Fu and Taekwondo.

Just the black belt is not such a big deal.

[zwieback]

http://www.shacknews...als-reimagining

very cool stuff

[----]

Fun thing is that I will probably get this anyways. I will support Devolver and I like Shadow Warrior but it wasn't as good as DN3D to me. So nothing can be "ruined" for me (which in itself and generally is basically bullshit, DNF didn't ruin DN3D for me, or so and I still like Star Wars Episode 5, no matter how bad some of the prequels were ... this whole "something from the present ruined something from the past" is only something for timetravellers or whiny kids).

[Ronin]

John William Galt confirmed not in the game as the voice of Lo Wang if IGN are to be believed. Also a surprisingly negative announcement of the new Shadow Warrior.

Seeing as the actor is 73 years old it seems reasonable. I don't really care that much to be honest as long as the game is great, there are not enough fps games with swords, there can never be enough.

It sounds ultra violent so that's cool.

"inventive level design" Was good to hear, but I wonder what that means nowadays.

http://ie.ign.com/ar...for-pc-next-gen

[----]

OK, the bunnies will return.

I bet that they won't reproduce, because unlike slashing off your opponents' heads, reproducing bunnies are a no go nowadays, it seems.


Inventive level design ... hm, I smell marketing buzz for something completely normal.

[Ronin]

 fuegerstef, on 22 May 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Inventive level design ... hm, I smell marketing buzz for something completely normal.

Probably, but it is reassuring that they seem to know what the fans of the original want apart from the so called racism.

I am keeping my expectations in check but I really want this to be good.

I find it very hard to believe cutting peoples heads off and splitting them in two with a katana in a decent fps game could not be fun.

Age of Chivalary is great, a mechanic like that could be great.

[K100]

"One person who won’t be joining you, though, will be John William Galt, the original voice of Lo Wang. While the voice cast is still to be determined, Devolver Digital confirmed that it will be seeking out a more youthful interpretation of our blade-wielding hero."

http://uk.ign.com/ar...for-pc-next-gen



Edit:

Oups too late...

[Ronin]

 K100, on 22 May 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

"One person who won’t be joining you, though, will be John William Galt, the original voice of Lo Wang. While the voice cast is still to be determined, Devolver Digital confirmed that it will be seeking out a more youthful interpretation of our blade-wielding hero."

http://uk.ign.com/ar...for-pc-next-gen

......
"Oups too late... "
Ninja'd in a Shadow Warrior thread, now you want to wash Wang, or watch Wang wash Wang?

[OpenMaw]

 Ronan, on 22 May 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

Seeing as the actor is 73 years old it seems reasonable. I don't really care that much to be honest as long as the game is great, there are not enough fps games with swords, there can never be enough.

What does his age have anything to do with it? If he's sick or knocking on death's door, sure, but there are plenty of damn healthy 70 year olds out there these days.

 K100, on 22 May 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

"One person who won’t be joining you, though, will be John William Galt, the original voice of Lo Wang. While the voice cast is still to be determined, Devolver Digital confirmed that it will be seeking out a more youthful interpretation of our blade-wielding hero."

http://uk.ign.com/ar...for-pc-next-gen



Edit:

Oups too late...

I'm out.

[Ronin]

 Commando Nukem, on 22 May 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

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What does his age have anything to do with it? If he's sick or knocking on death's door, sure, but there are plenty of damn healthy 70 year olds out there these days.
I'm out.

I'd imagine (I could be wrong) that an savagely overweight 73 year old man might have difficulties effectively performing the voice with vigor.

So they are bringing in a younger guy, and a different voice actor, it's not a deal breaker for me, if the game is good it's good right?

The trailer seems to have a kind of slick Desperado feeling to it. The more I watch it the more I like it.

We would all like the original actor but it's not the end of the world, let's wait till we see some gameplay.

[Richard Shead]

Hearing news like this makes me wonder if it's even going to be the same Lo Wang as in the original SW....in the flesh or in spirit.

I suppose I shouldn't be too shocked, because Galt's exaggerated vocal charactertures were a huge chunk of what made the game so racially controversial.

The game could be great, but I don't think anybody should be expecting a return of the Lo Wang that everybody is/was familiar with.



So, brandishing the name Shadow Warrior and a character called Lo Wang could very well end up being the game's biggest curse. Gamers will be deprived of certain things they got in 1997- things that they strongly associate with the SW franchise- which will inevitably lead to disappoint.

[Inspector Lagomorf]

Why is this called Shadow Warrior again?

[Kathy]

Why even care? It's not a sequel, it's a remake/reimagining. Movies change actors all the time, and in the end it comes down to perfomance and the movie itself. If DNF was a great game but had another voice actor I wouldn't mind it that much. At least if you compare to an actual DNF.

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Why is this called Shadow Warrior again?

So that people could talk about it otherwise you wouldn't see new on duke4 and this thread created. It's a brand recognition, nothing new. And it's an FPS and has thematical elements similar to original game. Pretty normal.

[Mr. Tibbs]

https://twitter.com/_ShadowWarrior

"Seems like it would be a good time to mention every gun in #ShadowWarrior has an alt fire mode. Even the katana, head, and heart. BOOM!"

Nice!

From the Facebook page: "Oh, this is a PC game first, baby. Built for PC, best on the PC. The PC will launch well before any console version as well." and they're "Hoping to support Steam Workshop in the future but it will not be possible at launch this summer."

"Hey guys, the game will be single player only to focus on making a great experience that will be worth playing through multiple times. It will be funny, crude, and crass - rest assured - and thanks for your support! Oh, and it will be expanded - there are tons of elements of the original that will be in the game. Everything from weapons, crass humor, and one liners to little things like hidden rooms and mischievous rabbits." - Also, no quick time events. There will be turret sections just like the original game and Flying Wild Hog are using their Roadhog engine.

Not surprisingly it'll be at E3, so we should be seeing some gameplay footage in a few weeks.

[Robman]

"From the Facebook page: "Oh, this is a PC game first, baby. Built for PC, best on the PC. The PC will launch well before any console version as well." and they're "Hoping to support Steam Workshop in the future but it will not be possible at launch this summer.""


- a response from the Sw team about me showing displeasure in a few features ( or lack there-of) hehe

[Lunick]

Also with that Twitter account, https://twitter.com/_ShadowWarrior they have been giving out the Classic version of Shadow Warrior on Steam if you are into that thing. (That's not the + version).

[Micky C]

They have classic shadow warrior on steam?

[Lunick]

 Lunick Prime, on 22 May 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

They have classic shadow warrior on steam?

I'm pretty sure someone posted it in the + thread but this http://store.steampo...com/app/238070/ is the DOSBox version only.

[OpenMaw]

 Ronan, on 22 May 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

I'd imagine (I could be wrong) that an savagely overweight 73 year old man might have difficulties effectively performing the voice with vigor.

Savagely overweight? I've seen some pictures of Galt. He's got some weight, sure, but savagely? That seems rather dramatic.

 Ronan, on 22 May 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

So they are bringing in a younger guy, and a different voice actor, it's not a deal breaker for me, if the game is good it's good right?

I'm happy for you. Really. Anybody who finds joy in this, I hope it's a blast for you. From what my instincts gather, I can tell that, beyond the name of the character, the asian background, Zilla Corp being mentioned, and there being a sword in the game that this has precious little to do with the original game experience. It's essentially a bait and switch with a vague veneer of what Shadow Warrior was. I hope i'm wrong. Maybe the next Trailer will come blasting out with Asian influenced metal and there will be all of that silly, boundry pushing violence and OTT shit that made Shadow Warrior a blast. I highly doubt it, though.

John Galt defined Lo Wang's character for me. Just as JSJ defined Duke. So, for this guy, it very much is a deal breaker i'm afraid. I just can't get excited about a reboot that has very little in common with it's progenitor.

[necroslut]

I hope they at least try to find someone that sounds like Galt.

[Inspector Lagomorf]

Main thing is that they find someone who you won't get sick of listening to repeatedly. Not as easy as it sounds. If the voice even slightly rubs you the wrong way - boom, muted.

[Kathy]

 Commando Nukem, on 22 May 2013 - 11:56 PM, said:

So, for this guy, it very much is a deal breaker i'm afraid. I just can't get excited about a reboot that has very little in common with it's progenitor.

If it's a rebbot then why do you want it to be the same?

[MusicallyInspired]

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I just can't get excited about a reboot that has very little in common with it's progenitor.

That's the nature of a reboot. I don't really care about John Galt missing. I'm intrigued.

[Ronin]

 Commando Nukem, on 22 May 2013 - 11:56 PM, said:

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Savagely overweight? I've seen some pictures of Galt. He's got some weight, sure, but savagely? That seems rather dramatic.

I'm happy for you. Really. Anybody who finds joy in this, I hope it's a blast for you. From what my instincts gather, I can tell that, beyond the name of the character, the asian background, Zilla Corp being mentioned, and there being a sword in the game that this has precious little to do with the original game experience. It's essentially a bait and switch with a vague veneer of what Shadow Warrior was. I hope i'm wrong. Maybe the next Trailer will come blasting out with Asian influenced metal and there will be all of that silly, boundry pushing violence and OTT shit that made Shadow Warrior a blast. I highly doubt it, though.

John Galt defined Lo Wang's character for me. Just as JSJ defined Duke. So, for this guy, it very much is a deal breaker i'm afraid. I just can't get excited about a reboot that has very little in common with it's progenitor.

Yeah I was being a bit dramatic I guess about the weight, but seeing as they now have a younger guy, a different voice seems more acceptable to me.

You may be right and this may not seem like a true Shadow Warrior game but I will wait and see how it shapes up, we only stand to gain if it's good.

If someone else were to voice Duke I would be pissed off, but that would not stop me playing the game if it was great.

[Kathy]

After DNF Duke could be mute for all I care.

[----]

 Cathy, on 23 May 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

If it's a reboot then why do you want it to be the same?

I'd like to know that too. Isn't there the original for "the same". And mods and maps for "more of the same"?

[OpenMaw]

 Cathy, on 23 May 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

If it's a rebbot then why do you want it to be the same?

That is not what I said at all. Please reread what I said.

 fuegerstef, on 23 May 2013 - 12:15 PM, said:

I'd like to know that too. Isn't there the original for "the same". And mods and maps for "more of the same"?

That isn't what I said. I'm not saying it should be "the same" i'm saying it should retain the important characteristics.


It's really quite simple. Shadow Warrior, much like Duke Nukem 3D, was defined by particular elements of gameplay and characterization. Reboot or not, those are the things that DEFINE the character of Shadow Warrior. Some examples in characters like Sherlock Holmes or Batman, you have different defining traits that make those character who they are, and far and wide those have always been retained in the core of every iteration. From what i'm hearing this does not sound to be the case. They want to take the cheesey and OTT character and turn him into something serious and gritty. Something wholly cynical and free of what made him "offensive."

[Kathy]

But why did you explicitly stated that Galt's voice is a deal breaker to you? Of course even the remake should be somewhat similar in some ways, but character's voice actor is not really an issue here.