[Kathy]

It seems, I was misunderstood. He said he didn't recall mentioning he was going to Germany. But he did mention it before. End of (cool) story.

[Sangman]

Nah I meant I knew that I said it, just don't remember in which topic

[Master Fibbles]

East Germany, heh? Commie.

[LeoD]

 Sangman, on 14 February 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

Nah I meant I knew that I said it, just don't remember in which topic

Bad grammar.

[Inspector Lagomorf]

 LeoD, on 14 February 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

Bad grammar.

You wrote a sentence fragment.

[Hank]

^ ... not necessarily ...

[Master Fibbles]

It's on the Internet, it must be true.

[ReaperMan]

Computers never lie.

[LeoD]

I actually posted a shortcut referring to a certain thread where Sangman first mentioned the area which is not Germany. And of course I speculated someone would jump on that.

[ReaperMan]

I finally got Adam F to delete my GBX forum account, i asked the man like 4 times to delete it and he kept hesitating.

[Sangman]

 LeoD, on 14 February 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

Bad grammar.

What on earth are you t---

 LeoD, on 14 February 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

I actually posted a shortcut referring to a certain thread where Sangman first mentioned the area which is not Germany. And of course I speculated someone would jump on that.

Oh.

[Engel220]

I am now an Alice in Chains fan. I have no idea how that happened, but there it is.

[Jeff]

24 movie to begin shooting in April

For all you Jack Bauer fans, the 24 movie will begin shooting in April. Hopefully when it's done, they'll remaster the series for Blu-ray. Just need to rescan the film negatives, redo the special effects for seasons 1-6, then release it.

[Kathy]

 Jeff, on 15 February 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

redo the special effects

Why would you want to do that? Most blu-ray releases didn't do that thankfully. And if you want to do that, provide also the original version.

Besides, was 24 even heavy on special(cgi?) effects? I watched only the first season, but can't remember anything like that or in the need to be redone.

[Jeff]

 Helel, on 15 February 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

Why would you want to do that? Most blu-ray releases didn't do that thankfully. And if you want to do that, provide also the original version.

Besides, was 24 even heavy on special(cgi?) effects? I watched only the first season, but can't remember anything like that or in the need to be redone.

The issue is that the current masters are on 480i resolution. As is the special effects. The film is 4K I believe (4096x2160p), however, it's just in pieces, not full completed episodes.

So if they released it on Blu-ray tomorrow, you would have 1080p except for the special effects which would be 480i resolution.

[Kathy]

So... basically you're saying that they would need to edit this again from film? Seems like a lot of work for 6*24 episodes. Pretty much a full edit with sound and effects.

I wonder if any editing is done with full feature 'remastered' movies for blu-ray since they probably have enough resolution on edited masters anyway. Of course I'm not saying about recutting the movie for "final", "director's" or whatever cuts.

[Jeff]

 Helel, on 15 February 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

So... basically you're saying that they would need to edit this again from film? Seems like a lot of work for 6*24 episodes. Pretty much a full edit with sound and effects.

I wonder if any editing is done with full feature 'remastered' movies for blu-ray since they probably have enough resolution on edited masters anyway. Of course I'm not saying about recutting the movie for "final", "director's" or whatever cuts.

Well film or digital. Thing that kind of pisses me off is studios just take the lazy way out and say it wasn't produced in HD, so there's not going to be a Blu-ray release. They've never said that for 24 though. There's a big enough audience to warrant an HD release. Not like 24 was some show with 1 million viewers or less. It had 13 million viewers peak back in the day I think. However, nowadays, you see less ratings because there's more ways to watch TV (eg. streaming, Netflix, Hulu, etc).

Even though 90% of the show is HD possible (minus the effects), I guess some places think it's just too much work to re-edit a whole show in HD.

They did this for pretty much every show from the 1980s to about 2004 or so. Shot on film (HD ready), however, special effects were 480i and the show was mastered at 480i resolution. I guess they either didn't see that HD was coming, or they wanted to save money. Either way, they'll have to make everything in HD one of these days.

Some of these really old shows have flickering rainbow colors in some scenes as well as color banding. However, if they rescan the film negatives, they will most likely go away (X-Files early seasons had some of this).

I was having a chat with someone about this and I told him in 10 years or so when we have ultra HD (2160p approximately), and when they compare that to DVD, people would definitely want an HD release.

Blu-ray is slow to take over DVD in terms of sales, however, demand for HD content is going up every year. They expect Blu-ray will surpass DVD in 2012-2013 or so. DVD sales have been declining for a bit now.

[Kathy]

 Jeff, on 15 February 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:

They did this for pretty much every show from the 1980s to about 2004 or so. Shot on film (HD ready), however, special effects were 480i and the show was mastered at 480i resolution.

You seem to put 'special effects being done at 480i' as a reason for a 480i master. Whereas most likely it was the other way around. And many shows, I think, never even had much visual effects done in post-production.

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I guess they either didn't see that HD was coming, or they wanted to save money.

At the time of making the show there was no point in going beyond 480.

[Jeff]

 Helel, on 15 February 2012 - 06:26 PM, said:

You seem to put 'special effects being done at 480i' as a reason for a 480i master. Whereas most likely it was the other way around. And many shows, I think, never even had much visual effects done in post-production.

You mean the reason was because of the film elements? Back in the day when they sent the episodes to networks, they had to send them a 480i tape because that's what TV's were back then. I've seen these master copies of DVDs. They look like they are stored on a VHS tape. It's called Digibeta or something like that.

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At the time of making the show there was no point in going beyond 480.

Now there is.

I just fear that they might not do it and we'll be stuck with 480i resolution stuff forever. That's why I'm so concerned.

[Jimmy]

I think some other TV series recently got released and they updated all the special effects. I want to say it was Star Trek: The Next Generation, but I'm not sure.

[Hendricks266]

Star Trek: The Next Generation is in fact getting a HD re-scan + new special effects but it's not out yet, just a teaser of three or so episodes.

[Kathy]

 Jeff, on 15 February 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

You mean the reason was because of the film elements?

I mean they did master in 480i because it would be shown on 480i TV. The same is true about doing effects in 480i.

 Wolfe, on 15 February 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

I think some other TV series recently got released and they updated all the special effects. I want to say it was Star Trek: The Next Generation, but I'm not sure.

You're talking about Original Series. It came out on blu-ray with updated and original effects. Don't really know the difference since I'm watching with original effects. Outer space scenes were surely updated(did a quick check), don't know about the other ones.

[Jeff]

 Hendricks266, on 15 February 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

Star Trek: The Next Generation is in fact getting a HD re-scan + new special effects but it's not out yet, just a teaser of three or so episodes.

Yup. First season will be released sometime in 2012 I heard.

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I mean they did master in 480i because it would be shown on 480i TV. The same is true about doing effects in 480i.

Oh okay. I get it. So now that you'll be able to watch it in HD, that they'll go back and do everything in higher resolution. That makes sense. Star Trek TNG is actually not getting a 1080p scan, but rather a 4K resolution scan.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Hendricks sent me the trailer. It looks amazing, and just imagine that all of that stuff was already there, technology just held it back.

[High Treason]

What a crappy day, I woke up to the post man bringing my delivery of Michellin World Tour tyres (26 x 1½) only to discover they are now Raleigh Asia branded Michellin, they are paper thin, same goes for the inner tubes - funny thing, the inner tubes are called "Duro" and you can see through them if you inflate them outside of the tyre, they look like deformed Durex - and the damn valves leak.

The worst part is, the tyres don't fit, and I know they are the right size, because the Michellin World Tour (26 x 1½) I had in my inventory already actually fit and the guy doesn't accept returns, so that was £50 on nothing, I could have spent that on getting my new workstation built, or my shed, but no. Stupid, stupid stupid. They're made of nylon (Old ones I have are Vee Rubber) so they won't even burn well.

To make matters worse, I went out on my bike (One that had tyres on it) and the clutch seems to have jammed in the gear hub, I don't think I can get another one because that hub is from 1926 and they rarely appear on eBay - and when they do they are usually broken.


Not so much of a problem is that I'm bogged down with stuff as well, I was working on my mini-episode but that's on the shelf because I'm working on the 1-Week CBP at present, but I'm also supposed to be working to a deadline on something else (top secret) - luckily I don't think that will be affected because the deadline is august and I started the top-secret thing on Jan 28th then realised yesterday I was at 23% completion. I can stomach this however because I'm actually enjoying having stuff to do for a change.

[LeoD]

 High Treason, on 16 February 2012 - 03:32 PM, said:

luckily I don't think that will be affected because the deadline is august and I started the top-secret thing on Jan 28th then realised yesterday I was at 23% completion. I can stomach this however because I'm actually enjoying having stuff to do for a change.

The hard part on most of my projects is doing the last 10%. And writing the documentation. I hate that.

[Micky C]

 ReaperMan, on 14 February 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

I finally got Adam F to delete my GBX forum account, i asked the man like 4 times to delete it and he kept hesitating.

Why the need to delete your account? Why not just not post there anymore?

[ReaperMan]

 Micky C, on 16 February 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

Why the need to delete your account? Why not just not post there anymore?

I don't want it connected to my email.

[High Treason]

On that subject (Account deletion at Gearbox) he stalled with deleting mine, but I threw a load of professionally worded BS at him about my "privacy" and "personal information" which made him delete it - this might be worth keeping in mind for future reference.

Edit: I should know not to try posting when I first wake up.

[Inspector Lagomorf]

From my observations, threatening legal action against an entity is a good method of getting banned from anything.