[Fox]

Minor bug, blood pools and tracks (floor-aligned sprites?) not affected by floor pal.

[Hendricks266]

What is v1.5 behavior?

[Fox]

Not sure what this was meant to do:
[quote name='"synthesis / 20130526-3819"]Also' date=' allow MAXVOLUMES+1 to first arg of 'music'.[/quote']

But this crashes the game if used when the level is loaded:

      getuserdef[THISACTOR].volume_number PTEMP
      setuserdef[THISACTOR].volume_number 8
      starttrackvar 0
      setuserdef[THISACTOR].volume_number PTEMP

Edit: Why loadgrp can only be used in the main def file?

[Helixhorned]

Fox, on 27 May 2013 - 08:31 AM, said:

Not sure what this was meant to do:

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Also, allow MAXVOLUMES+1 to first arg of 'music'.

This refers to the handling of the music command in LunaCON, to bring it in line with C-CON. It is legal because the MapInfo[] array that is referenced has conceptually size (MAXVOLUMES+1)*MAXLEVELS. (The argument to music is diminished by 1 to get a 0-based index.) I have no idea what the last "volume" entry means, though. The entries for music 0 are kept in a separate array.

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But this crashes the game if used when the level is loaded:

      getuserdef[THISACTOR].volume_number PTEMP
      setuserdef[THISACTOR].volume_number 8
      starttrackvar 0
      setuserdef[THISACTOR].volume_number PTEMP

That's unrelated to r3817, but for this reason LunaCON will bound-check writes to certain members, and allow only reading others.

[fgsfds]

About this recent "ror water doesn't require SE7" feature. Look at this map. When you emerge you die, because above-water sector is too low. Before adding this feature I just could not place SE7 to prevent emerging. What should I do now?

Spoiler

Still don't see the point. Is it too hard to place SE7 where it's needed?

Attached File(s)

•  1_water.zip (297bytes)
  Number of downloads: 223

[Helixhorned]

fgsfds, on 29 May 2013 - 11:44 PM, said:

About this recent "ror water doesn't require SE7" feature. Look at this map. When you emerge you die, because above-water sector is too low. Before adding this feature I just could not place SE7 to prevent emerging. What should I do now?

Simply clear the sector tag from the above-water sector. See the explanation here.

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Still don't see the point. Is it too hard to place SE7 where it's needed?

The point is to allow water constructions with arbitrary sector "multiplicity" N:M, N>=1, M>=1. For example, the above-water section is one sector, but under water, there's a lot of decoration like hills or sunken ships. You don't need to have matching sectors above then.

[fgsfds]

Thanks. Another ror-water bug (?).
Enemies and pickups doesn't sink in ror water, even with SE7 placed.

http://www.youtube.c...?&v=Y-kyzLqbHXU

Spoiler

Have posted this a long ago but was ignored

Attached File(s)

•  1_rorwater.zip (800bytes)
  Number of downloads: 226

[Diaz]

Non-SE7 water is an awesome feature. Just wanted to say that, as there's people who don't seem to see the point.

[Fox]

Even if LOGO_FLAG_PLAYMUSIC is not set, the music will start playing if you turn music off and on.

[Hendricks266]

Fox, on 26 May 2013 - 09:15 AM, said:

Minor bug, blood pools and tracks (floor-aligned sprites?) not affected by floor pal.

What is the behavior in v1.5?

Fox, on 30 May 2013 - 11:44 PM, said:

Even if LOGO_FLAG_PLAYMUSIC is not set, the music will start playing if you turn music off and on.

I'll look into this.

[Fox]

I looked at some Youtube videos, and it seems blood pools also glow in v1.5. So it is not a bug.

[Player Lin]

Fox, on 31 May 2013 - 06:56 AM, said:

I looked at some Youtube videos, and it seems blood pools also glow in v1.5. So it is not a bug.

Just loaded up the classic version of DN:ME, and it's just red blood pool.

Same as the port of DN:ME.
http://steamcommunit...908039664173080

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[Fox]

I checked the source code. It seems to be the result of improper use of cases:

            case BLOODPOOL:
            case FOOTPRINTS:
            case FOOTPRINTS2:
            case FOOTPRINTS3:
            case FOOTPRINTS4:
                if(t->pal == 6)
                    t->shade = -127;
            case PUKE:
            case MONEY:
            case MONEY+1:
            case MAIL:
            case MAIL+1:
            case PAPER:
            case PAPER+1:
                if(ud.lockout && s->pal == 2)
                {
                    t->xrepeat = t->yrepeat = 0;
                    continue;
                }
                break;
(...)
            default:

                if( sector[sect].floorpal )
                    t->pal = sector[sect].floorpal;
                break;

[Hendricks266]

What indicates to you that it wasn't intentional for those sprites to not be affected by floorpal?

[Fox]

I am not saying Eduke should fix it, just mentioning. But basically it seems to have some unrelated code to make bloodpools with pal 6 glow in the dark, however a second entry of cases makes it to cancel the default in the end.

[TerminX]

What? The code says to make any blood pools or footprints with pal 6 glow in the dark, and then further specifies to not display any of those sprites (plus others) at all if the palette is 2 and the parental lock is on. It seems very clearly written and intentional to me.

[DavoX]

It would be nice if you could flip a bunch of sprites or just one, by pressing Y or X like you do with sectors (2d mode of course)

[TerminX]

That's an excellent idea, and a natural extension of the existing functionality.

[DavoX]

Well it's faster than creating a sector, selecting it with right alt and then flipping it

I'm so going to use this. No more excuses for poor spritework on maps

[Helixhorned]

DavoX, on 31 May 2013 - 09:31 AM, said:

It would be nice if you could flip a bunch of sprites or just one, by pressing Y or X like you do with sectors (2d mode of course)

DavoX, on 31 May 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

Well it's faster than creating a sector, selecting it with right alt and then flipping it

You can already interactively rotate a set of highlighted sprites around a common pivot point with LShift+RMB. This won't let you mirror them, but in your case it sounds like you're planning beforehand, so it wouldn't be an issue. (No, interactive scaling won't let you mirror them either, and isn't that useful for "3D" sprite constructions because it doesn't recalculate the sprite sizes.)

[DavoX]

But I've had problems with that method because It never stays at an exact 180 or 360 degrees angle for me.

EDIT: Duh, just said what you said Yes I'm making intrincate 3d constructions.

[Helixhorned]

DavoX, on 01 June 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

But I've had problems with that method because It never stays at an exact 180 or 360 degrees angle for me.

Turn off grid locking. After you've pressed the mouse button and locked to a vertex, you can move the aim farther away from the midpoint to control the angle by single units.

[fgsfds]

The latest builds show the same screenshot for every save game entry.

[fgsfds]

When you quickly press open button on ceiling door 2 times, open and close sounds change places. Floor door seems fine.

[Diaz]

hasn't it always been like that?

[fgsfds]

Diaz, on 03 June 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

hasn't it always been like that?

It was. But it's an obvious bug.

[Diaz]

Yeah, I guess this is one of those cases where fixing the bug would be welcome even if it results in non-1.5 behavior

[Micky C]

Helixhorned, on 01 June 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

Turn off grid locking. After you've pressed the mouse button and locked to a vertex, you can move the aim farther away from the midpoint to control the angle by single units.

If you know what angle you want to rotate it by, is there a more direct way to rotate it? When dragging with the mouse it can get very finicky if you're after exact values.

[DavoX]

That's why I proposed the use of the Y and X keys in 2d mode, it doesn't get any simpler and precise than that

[LeoD]

fgsfds, on 02 June 2013 - 10:33 AM, said:

The latest builds show the same screenshot for every save game entry.

To be exact, the first you scroll to if slot 0 is empty.