[Devastator]

hm, somehow they do not seem so unnatural to me =)
but nevertheless, did you mean this?

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[Night Wolf]

Its just that a standard light globe isn't yellow (except in cartoons)
a standard non fluorescent light globe pretty much a warm white colour

more on the lines of this..

[Devastator]

Though i rarely see this color in real life, it looks better, i've updated maphack with it. Thanks for advice =)

[Night Wolf]

just tested it out , looks great now, good stuff

[Rellik]

Generally speaking, basic "white" light should never be too saturated unless it is obviously colorized (ie the strip club)

The key is to be subtle, either make it slightly warm, neutral or slightly cool depending on the environment.

Consider the light source type: Traditional incandescent light falls into the warm category. Good quality fluorescent lighting tends to be neutral; whereas lousy fluorescent becomes cool, perhaps even a bit greenish, (the sciencey explanation is that the mercury in fluorescent lights has blue and green spikes in the emitted color spectrum, and is only controlled by the phosphors used.)

Environment plays a lot into the light type used, I imagine a subway would have lousy fluorescent lighting. whereas a good bank would have good fluorescent light. What would a space station use?


This page has some interesting info on the science aspect of color temperature and light.

[Devastator]

Huh, at last i found powers within me to make lighting for e1l3. Go grab it from svn!

[Night Wolf]

Looks pretty good , but why isn't the church lighted red

[Rellik]

Last I checked, the church is lit normally until you trigger the switch on the face of the podium.

[Night Wolf]

Rellik, on Jun 20 2010, 05:49 AM, said:

Last I checked, the church is lit normally until you trigger the switch on the face of the podium.

Thats true yes, my bad... hmmm is it possible to light up the church red when the face is switched?
its weird since playing the game in 8bit mode the red is much stronger but when played on 32 bit mode the red is almost orange and transparent:S

[Rellik]

Yeah, it is odd...

Anyway, right now any lights that are dynamically switched in-game aren't possible without some con coding of sorts.

Some time in the future it should be possible to connect polymer lights to sector effectors to change the lights in a room.

[TerminX]

I think the sector effector based lights already support this feature... it should be possible to place them in sectors with activators and turn them on and off.

[DuduKrazy]

Devastator, on Jun 19 2010, 02:01 PM, said:

Huh, at last i found powers within me to make lighting for e1l3. Go grab it from svn!

the lights look nice. is it just me, or did you rely on simple point lights? (much like what Roma Loom did on most of Episode 2)
also, the outside area (the one with the turrets) could use a few spotlights.

[Jokke_r]

Has some sort of directional lighting been implemented? Would be essential for outside daylight areas

[Rellik]

TX, on Jun 19 2010, 07:49 PM, said:

I think the sector effector based lights already support this feature... it should be possible to place them in sectors with activators and turn them on and off.

That's cool, is it documented anywhere? And can it be done via maphacks for the original levels?

The church room in the prison may be a special case that may be a challenge: Instead of turning the light on and off, the entire room palette changes to red from normal, how would that be handled?

[Master Fibbles]

There are other places where the SE that governs the light is a different palette than the room (which changes the room when the light is turned on).

[High Treason]

I think I know a way it could be done in future - given that such a thing would be implemented, I think having two Polymer lights and alternating between the two - basically when the lights are off use the white one and when you switch it on (room goes red) the white SE49 turns off and a red one switches on could work.

But obviously there is nothing implemented yet for any such features, but it's a thought and I'm rather bored so I figured I'd share it as it is relevant.

[Devastator]

Yep, i stick to point lights because they are fast, and as long as shadows are made with srectors it's allright. furthermore, large lights are very consuming, and adding spot to outside will cost a lot.

There is away to trigger lights. Point light turns off if sector ceiling and floor are on the same height. but it is impossible to make such thing in maphack.

[Micky C]

I don't think that ceiling floor thing is an intentional implementation is it? I was under the impression that when a sector can't be seen, nothing inside the sector including sprites would be rendered, and that using it to switch off lights is simply a beneficial side affect of this?

Perhaps I'm just a bit annoyed because I found it out by myself a while back and thought I made an awesome discovery
I've been using it in doors in my upcoming space station themed map.

[Devastator]

Micky C, on Jun 23 2010, 10:44 AM, said:

Perhaps I'm just a bit annoyed because I found it out by myself a while back and thought I made an awesome discovery

Yea, such shit happens very often =)
I've also seen some weird stuff when light do not passes through some of the sectors blocking it's way and acting like a spot light.

[Micky C]

I just tried out the E1L3 maphack and it's brilliant stuff, one minor thing though should there be a white-ish light here or did you intentionally leave that out because half the light disappears when the napalm is shot?

[Devastator]

oh.. how come.. i really missed these tow places, thanks.
Also, i just couldn't help and placed soft red lights in church, it looks so so awesome.

[Devastator]

Go and grab e1l4!

[Spiker]

Devastator, on Jul 2 2010, 06:52 PM, said:

Go and grab e1l4!

How many left is to be done?

[Night Wolf]

Devastator, on Jul 3 2010, 03:52 AM, said:

Go and grab e1l4!

"Groovy!"
Looks nice
The sewer parts towards the end look great with green lights

[DuduKrazy]

Spiker, on Jul 2 2010, 03:22 PM, said:

How many left is to be done?

just two levels. (or three if you count Faces Of Death)

[Master Fibbles]

Once the levels are done, I expect a compiled version...just saying.

[Devastator]

what do you mean under "copmiled version"?
Also i think we have to kick RomaLoom's lazy ass to make 2nd episode super-awesome with light bounces and atmospheric make-up. And there's 3rd episode to be done.

[Master Fibbles]

I don't want to download individual maphack files. I expect there to be a zip file.

[The Commander]

Mr.Flibble, on Jul 7 2010, 07:12 AM, said:

I don't want to download individual maphack files. I expect there to be a zip file.

http://forums.duke4....?showtopic=2251

Get with the times and stop complaining.
(If five year olds can do this for the games like Garry's Mod and other games then there is no excuse)

[Master Fibbles]

Why would I want to install that?