[Sanek]

Coming VERY Soon!

https://psv4.userapi.com/c848220/u13304397/docs/d18/12a85cb6c886/SBZ_MENU.png?extra=neWSHl1YzWf5djXrYVKrT9yBtRKXoV_xBAGv8lz_6iz3k2ZmV2mWz1KY62DW1KpbM6WKgix9a-jjK0NW-u5TATOYJ2X2No9T0evprI3ThPe8h5PUbXXeNmcCQj9-2807I7wQIIhA8Eh200pkKfJOlWU

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EDIT: attached pics in case you don't see it.

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[MusicallyInspired]

Images are broken links. :)

[Diaz]

blizzart, on 22 February 2019 - 06:46 AM, said:

I would love to see what you did so far. The screenshots looked fantastic and more than promising.
Any chance to get a download for this? :D :)

Well I would need to get it to a releaseable state first, and it's not one of my priorities... plus it's not 1999 and I'm not sure I could release ot with all the stuff from other games like I did with the first Fusion. World has become crazy in all these years.

[Sanek]

Attached pics in case you don't see them.
It displays properly for me...

[Sanek]

SilverballZ will be released in just 2 hours. :)

[Tea Monster]

I'm making a high-res version of the Moon Shuttle for Syndroid's Serious Sam Fusion Duke mod.

https://i.imgur.com/85AZE68.jpg

[Mark]

It doesn't look like the sprite. :)

[Micky C]

https://forums.duke4...three-released/



http://media.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif

[oasiz]

Big thanks to Nuke.YKT for some new additional fixes (that should go live soon)
From what I can see after some testing, polymost has surpassed classic in terms of TROR rendering stability as it seemed to handle a few corner cases better than classic did.

Apparently mirrors aren't in, but this alone should allow SO much more to be done without going classic-only or polymer.
Still needs more testing but these patches will be a game changer for polymost TROR.

Compared to the current "v1 patch" from the other day, sprites render much better and everything overall is much more stable.

[Danukem]

I haven't looked into this at all lately, but in the past I know there have been issues with actors being able to pass through TROR layers (i.e. getting stuck or lacking visibility where the player would have no problem). If this hasn't been done already, it would be good if this were handled at the source level, so that scripters didn't need to add special hacks to allow actors to traverse the TROR world.

[Micky C]

Man, it's a great time to be a part of the eduke community!

[Ninety-Six]

Micky C, on 06 March 2019 - 02:48 PM, said:

Man, it's a great time to be a part of the eduke community!

damn straight. Alien Armageddon, AMC E3, the resurrection of WGR2...

[Micky C]

Ion Maiden of course, and the countless, countless eduke32 improvements that are directly or indirectly related to Ion Maiden.

Not to mention the all-new eduke32 ports for Redneck Rampage and Blood, of which the developer has been improving TROR in polymost.

[Perro Seco]

Micky C, on 06 March 2019 - 04:50 PM, said:

the developer has been improving TROR in polymost.

I hope they don't forget about classic renderer, otherwise I'll not be able to enjoy those TROR improvements.

[Micky C]

TROR already works relatively well in classic if you have half a clue what you’re doing. I’ve pulled off some REALLY complex in the classic renderer in the AMC TC. Keep in mind that TROR was originally devised as a polymer-only feature, and that we’re quite lucky it came to classic in the first place, and that it’s as stable as it is.

If polymost TROR is at least as stable as classic, this is absolutely huge news.
Once the new version is available, I’ll stress test it to see how good it really is. The picture oasiz posted looks promising.

[High Treason]

TROR is for pussies!

Spoiler

I don't really like posting WIP stuff early on, but then this was built in 2014 and everyone will have forgotten if it ever comes to fruition. If all goes to plan, this would be the least of my concern regarding technical tomfoolery in the map.
But don't ask me, ask my boss.

[Perro Seco]

Micky C, on 06 March 2019 - 05:39 PM, said:

I’ve pulled off some REALLY complex in the classic renderer

Me too. In fact, current TROR is enough for me. I meant enjoying the new improvements as a player.

High Treason, on 06 March 2019 - 07:02 PM, said:

TROR is for pussies!

Can I know how you did it? I'll understand if you prefer to keep it as a secret until the map is released, but I ask because I'm curious to know how can be that possible without EDuke32. Very impressive!

[Tea Monster]

Blocking sprites?

The new ZBrush is out and it has a few render filters built in. One is actually a 'retro game' filter.
https://i.imgur.com/byRl0Qy.jpg

[Perro Seco]

Tea Monster, on 07 March 2019 - 03:15 PM, said:

Blocking sprites?

I'm asking about the sloped roof.

[MusicallyInspired]

n/m

[Ninety-Six]

Damn, that filter actually looks kinda legit.

[Micky C]

oasiz, on 06 March 2019 - 10:58 AM, said:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/461290354726010891/552926436315496449/capt0018.png

Big thanks to Nuke.YKT for some new additional fixes (that should go live soon)
From what I can see after some testing, polymost has surpassed classic in terms of TROR rendering stability as it seemed to handle a few corner cases better than classic did.

Apparently mirrors aren't in, but this alone should allow SO much more to be done without going classic-only or polymer.
Still needs more testing but these patches will be a game changer for polymost TROR.

Compared to the current "v1 patch" from the other day, sprites render much better and everything overall is much more stable.

This is taking forever to come out. The AMC TC Episode 4 will probably be released first :)

[oasiz]

Should be getting it soon I believe. Nuke has been a machine and worked on some other stuff also meanwhile.
I expect there to be a patch/merge and builds soon enough on synthesis. I guess we want to catch any possible side-effects as It's not just plain TROR related bugs that these patches address.

Need to add that island sectors still behave the same as they do with classic so there are still the limitations otherwise.

[oasiz]

Can't say how excited I am about the next patch, tons of cool stuff lined up!

Things like,
VBOs for voxels
Approximate software renderer's relative aligned textures (very close to classic now in poly)
More accurate shading steps for polymost
Very good TROR support for polymost
Masked texture support on slopes (TROR in classic)
One controversial change, bound to be very welcome by mappers :)

In one (rather heavy) test case I managed to get 60fps to 300fps with voxels.. crazy stuff.
We've been testing a lot of this stuff in IM and it's crazy.

Been bugging TX constantly to push these changes :D
It's very close to release though and we've managed to fix a few annoyances meanwhile.

Huge props to Nuke.YKT for unfucking polymost.
Can see his changelogs here btw: Github nblood

That one big change is still pending but other than that, I think things are mostly done.

[Danukem]

oasiz, on 18 March 2019 - 10:34 AM, said:

VBOs for voxels

Took a look at those changelogs and you weren't kidding. So does VBO on voxels mean we can change their pitch and roll just like models now?

[oasiz]

Mostly just perf related for now. Huge improvements on that front.

[Micky C]

Funnily enough, I was just about to ask about the eduke update. Now I'm really looking forward to it.

oasiz, on 18 March 2019 - 10:34 AM, said:

One controversial change, bound to be very welcome by mappers :)

Let me guess, you can see blocked walls again in 2D mode https://forums.duke4.net/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gifhttps://forums.duke4.net/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

[oasiz]

2D mode walls are taken from the basepal, you could probably edit your own basepal.raw that applies to 2D mode only. It's based on the closest pal entry it can find, you won't find strong magentas in Duke.
I think original build was hardcoded to EGA 16 colour palette instead, where it was quite bright.
For IM they look rather bright since we have some nice purple/pink hues in the palette.

...And this change is way more than that :)

[oasiz]

changelog1
changelog2
https://dukeworld.co...nthesis/latest/

Controversial change

Spoiler

Huge changes in collision code. i.e. SOS teleportation largely fixed, sprite clipping fixed (you don't climb tall sprites anymore like you used to)
Still a bit wonky but it's being worked on

[TerminX]

Yes, these changes will likely break maps and random CON mods related to jumping, etc. Let us all work together toward a brave new world in which you cannot pass through solid walls and metal grates in sewers do not cause you to explode.