[Mere_Duke]

@Mark
Yes, it's only for aplayer, but are you sure that the squish sound related to velocity, not to the height travelled by object?
I think it's possible to control the velocity of a sprite falling by using htcgg structure member.
@Trooper Dan
Nope, it works differenty. I'll try to explain in details. When the actor faces the situation when distance from the floor is more than 320, it starts falling and goes to the 1st frame of DYING animation. It continues to fall (dying anim constantly resets to its start frame), and when floordistance is less than 8, it checks with getzrange if the picnum below is a water. If not, then it "releases" DYING animation, and the actor is dying normally. If it is water below, it changes DYING anim to a "zero ai" or default STANDING action, and actor becomes alive, and behaves normally. Everything is ok except that in the case 2, if I kill that actor after he has fallen and was saved by water, he plays "squish" sound on death in addition to normal dying yell.
And I can't understand how "fall" works. I know of "htcgg", but sometimes actors fall faster or slower, in different situations. For example, my test actor is falling to the ground much slower, than to the water. (Probably smth related to the sectors? Idk)

[Danukem]

Mere_Duke, on 21 February 2018 - 01:44 PM, said:

@Trooper Dan
Nope, it works differenty. I'll try to explain in details. When the actor faces the situation when distance from the floor is more than 320, it starts falling and goes to the 1st frame of DYING animation. It continues to fall (dying anim constantly resets to its start frame), and when floordistance is less than 8, it checks with getzrange if the picnum below is a water. If not, then it "releases" DYING animation, and the actor is dying normally. If it is water below, it changes DYING anim to a "zero ai" or default STANDING action, and actor becomes alive, and behaves normally. Everything is ok except that in the case 2, if I kill that actor after he has fallen and was saved by water, he plays "squish" sound on death in addition to normal dying yell.
And I can't understand how "fall" works. I know of "htcgg", but sometimes actors fall faster or slower, in different situations. For example, my test actor is falling to the ground much slower, than to the water. (Probably smth related to the sectors? Idk)

First, your sound bug: it is likely that the actor is falling on a water texture, but the sector was not actually lotag 1 (water sector). Thus, as far as the game is concerned, he fell on a regular floor and not water. I don't know where the falling death data is getting saved in the sprite structure, but clearly it is.

Second, your method is very complicated and will probably give you the wrong result in some situations. The easiest way to tell if an actor is falling is to simply check their zvel (positive means falling). I would try something like this:

gamevar falltime 0 2
define FALLDAMAGETIME 24 // number of tics of falling before landing will hurt
define FALLDAMAGEMULT 3

state fallaction

  // this is a placeholder state for changing the actor's action appropriately
  // you will want to change the action to the falling action when falltime >= FALLDAMAGETIME

ends

state checkfall

ifg sprite[].zvel 0
{
   add falltime 1
   state fallaction
}
else
{
  ifg falltime FALLDAMAGETIME
  {
    ifonwater
      nullop
    else
    ifinwater
      nullop
    else
    {
      sub falltime FALLDAMAGETIME
      mul falltime FALLDAMAGEMULT
      seta[].htextra falltime
      seta[].htpicnum KNEE
      seta[].htowner THISACTOR
      sound SQUISHED
      guts JIBS6 4 // or whatever you want
    }
  }
  set falltime 0
}

ends

The idea is that you want the actor to use the checkfall state whenever he's not already dead. It will determine whether he is falling, count how long he has been falling and apply damage depending on the length of the fall once he hits ground. It will not apply damage if he falls on a water sector.

[Mere_Duke]

Hmmm. This is, yes, the more convenient way to do this. I like it better than mine. But then I need to pass some actor-specific things into "state fallaction". While I can do this for sounds with "soundvar" (for example, to start playing actor-specific scream sound at some point), how do I change the action of a specific actor outside of that actor? (To change animation mid-air; I always hated walking-on-air enemies, and setting "move 0" negates any horizontal velocity it had before falling.) There is no "actionvar". But anyways, thanks for this, but! I've tried your code, and it has exactly the same behavior in cases mine had. Now I think it's just a map/sector issue. Sorry, I know zero about mapping and such. I recorded a video with that bug. You code is applied there.
The annoying SQUISH I couldn't catch is playing at 3rd enemy death. 2nd death is "wtf" as well

[Mark]

How about using ifinwater and stopsound squish

Maybe you get lucky and stopsound will stop it fast enough so you don't hear it

[Danukem]

By code "outside the actor" are you referring to a generic state that will be executed by the actor, such as the state checkfall above? In that case, all you need to do is something like this:

ifactor MYCULTISTGUY
{
  // blah blah blah change the action
}
   else
ifactor LIZTROOP
{
 // blah blah blah change the action
}

// ... and so on

EDIT: on the squish sound, I don't really want to speculate about it because it could either be a hardcoded thing interacting with your code or there could be something else in your code causing it. Without looking at all of the relevant code, it's hard to say

[Mark]

I keep offering help in the hopes that eventually I'll get one right. I'm beginning to doubt it.

[Danukem]

Mark., on 21 February 2018 - 06:24 PM, said:

I keep offering help in the hopes that eventually I'll get one right. I'm beginning to doubt it.

Your suggestion about stopping the sound when ifonwater would probably work, but I would first want to know what the root cause is and only do that as a last resort. Also, you would want to use "ifonwater ifactorsound THISACTOR SQUISHED stopactorsound THISACTOR SQUISHED". That's because the more general command "stopsound" will stop any instance of the sound, including instances legitimately started by another actor.

[Mere_Duke]

@Dan
Oh, I completely forgot that I can determine actors with "ifactor". Need to stop trying to do everything via gamevars.
Now I at least understand why in Attririon you collected all monster ai's and action's in one place.
The SQUISH bug is not code-related 100%. I tried another place and found no such issues. Let's just leave it at that.

@Mark
stopsound will stop all sounds of that kind in a map - bad solution.
stopactorsound THISACTOR SQUISHED will stop this exact squish sound but it will also stop a sound of exploding body
EVENT_SOUND is the best way to catch it I think, but anyway it's a "kludge".

[Danukem]

Mere_Duke, on 21 February 2018 - 06:47 PM, said:

stopactorsound THISACTOR SQUISHED will stop this exact squish sound but it will also stop a sound of exploding body

But you would also be checking ifonwater

Also, if you check this stuff before ifhitweapon, then that won't be an issue because in the exploding body case you use killit and then there is no actor to run the code which would stop sound on the next tic

[Mere_Duke]

Trooper Dan, on 21 February 2018 - 07:08 PM, said:

But you would also be checking ifonwater

But if actor will walk out of the water, this won't stop the sound. But anyway it only happens for a single sector. The problem is not code-related, as I thought before. Both ways (mine & yours) work, but I prefer yours. Thx for that.

[Mere_Duke]

To determine spawned sprite, I use sprite[].picnum, what should I use to determine spawned projectile (say, RPG), and where should I catch them outside of an actor spawning them?
Is there any way to create a hitbox for a sprite? I have a tree sprite, and want bullets to pass through leaves but hit a trunk. So far I just spawn a tall&thin sprite with a cstat of 32768+257 in the center of that tree to simulate a trunk, and set a tree cstat to 0.

[Mere_Duke]

Another question is how to get the angle if I only have the arctangent? There is a "horis" member of player structure, and I don't know how to obtain the angle between player view vector and the flat surface he's standing on. (The (horiz-100)/128 is the actual arctg, but how to get the angle from it? I know about getangle, but dx/dy displacements are unknown in my case.)

[Danukem]

Mere_Duke, on 24 February 2018 - 08:14 AM, said:

To determine spawned sprite, I use sprite[].picnum, what should I use to determine spawned projectile (say, RPG), and where should I catch them outside of an actor spawning them?

I don't understand what you are asking. A projectile is also a sprite, and it has a picnum just like any other sprite. It's not clear what you are trying to say. "catch them" sounds like a euphemism of some kind.

Mere_Duke, on 24 February 2018 - 08:14 AM, said:

Is there any way to create a hitbox for a sprite? I have a tree sprite, and want bullets to pass through leaves but hit a trunk. So far I just spawn a tall&thin sprite with a cstat of 32768+257 in the center of that tree to simulate a trunk, and set a tree cstat to 0.

I can only think of 2 methods off the top of my head. Method one is you define the actor with a sprite that has the actual hitbox you want, and then use an action to make it look different from its hitbox. Method 2 is what you describe -- make the actor nonhittable but make it spawn one or more proxy sprites with hitboxes that you want and make them transfer damage to the actor.

btw my internet is down at home and I can only be online for 5 minutes a day until it is fixed so that is all I can manage for now.

[Mblackwell]

You could also create a clipshape I believe, although it's a bit more complicated to set up.

[Zaxtor]

I found a nice md3 mushroom model

but when I put it in the def file.
I get

"Invalid frame name on line"

model "custom/19712_mushroom.md3" {
   scale 1
   skin { pal 0 file "custom/19712_mushroom.png" }
   frame { name "Frame0" tile 19712 }
}

What I am doing wrong?

Error logs

===============================
Mapster32 r6710
Built Feb 26 2018 17:17:23, GCC 7.2.0, 64-bit
Running on Windows 10 (build 10.0.16299)
Initializing SDL 2.0.7
Using C:/$$ EDUKE32 HRP $$/ for game data
Executing "m32_settings.cfg"
Searching for game data...
Found no recognized game data!
Using "DUKE3D.GRP" as main game data file.
Using group file "autoload/duke3d_hrp.zip".
Using group file "autoload/duke3d_music-sc55.zip".
Loading "m32help.hlp"
Error initializing integrated help: file "m32help.hlp" not found.
0 joystick(s) found
Initialized 24.0M cache
Loading "duke3d.def"
Polymer High Resolution Pack (version 5.4.674)
.............................Invalid frame name on line highres/sprites/z_custom.def:8
Removing model 417 due to errors.
...................................................
Definitions file "duke3d.def" loaded.
Setting video mode 800x600 (8-bpp windowed)
Refresh rate: 60Hz
Trying SDL_Renderer "direct3d"
Loading sounds from "GAME.CON"
warning: duplicate sound #261, overwriting
warning: duplicate sound #323, overwriting
Loaded 374 sound definitions.
Wrote m32_settings.cfg
===============================


z_custom.def is the file where I put customized models

Both Duke and Mapster are set to polymer.

[Mark]

There is a program called Npherno for viewing models. In there it will tell you the frame name of the model. Or if you post the model here I will find the name for you.
Frame1 is another popular default name. You can try that first if you wish.

[Zaxtor]

I have the software you mentioned, I tried changing frame name, etc etc etc.
and no workin for model in def.

ill attach the file.

I tried Frame1.
Frame0


Imported object, says framecount 1, assuming is Frame1


I attached the thing.
Originally the "image file was tga but changed to png"

Theres 2 md3 files. I use the no1.
Dunno why 2 came, probably cus diff mushroom sizes.
Sprite origin is
https://www.katsbits...ll-mushroom.php

Attached File(s)

•  mushroon.rar (61.47K)
  Number of downloads: 643

[Mark]

Unusal frame name. Type it as shown.

MilkShape 3D

[Zaxtor]

Weird.
Thx

It works.

[Mark]

Glad to help.

[Danukem]

Back when I was using models a lot, I would have killed for EDuke32 to have the feature of just telling me what the fucking frame names were, instead of having to load the models up in Npherno to find out.

[Zaxtor]

How to we make stayput work properly.

if I do
useractor enemystayput SPRITENAMESTAYPUT SPRITENAMESTRENGTH
codes etc etc etc
cactor SPRITENAME
enda

Wont work.

I tried "setactor[THISACTOR].htactorstayput (var)"


they do nothing at all, mob walks out of sector,
Does that to customized mob (sprite from scratch) even if is a copy of an existing mob but with diff name.

What should we put in the code to make it work?

[Danukem]

 Zaxtor, on 14 March 2018 - 07:30 PM, said:

useractor enemystayput SPRITENAMESTAYPUT SPRITENAMESTRENGTH
codes etc etc etc
cactor SPRITENAME
enda

That should work. To keep it simple, use

useractor enemystayput SPRITENAMESTAYPUT SPRITENAMESTRENGTH cactor SPRITENAME enda

and put ALL code in the regular actor or states used by regular actor. If you still can't get it to work, post your code for both actors, including which tile numbers you are using, all the move definitions, etc.

[Zaxtor]

Still wont work.
I made code to the stayput into a single line like u mentioned.

here is code

// Tormented pig

action ATORMENTPWALK     0  4 5 1 20
action ATORMENTPRUN      0  4 5 1 11
action ATORMENTPSHOOT    30 2 5 1 58
action ATORMENTPCOCK     25 1 5 1 16
action ATORMENTPSTAND    30 1 5 1 1
action ATORMENTPDIVE     40 2 5 1 40
action ATORMENTPDIVESHOOT  45 2 5 1 58
action ATORMENTPDYING    55 5 1 1 15
action ATORMENTPHIT      55 1 1 1 10
action ATORMENTPDEAD     60 1 1 1 1


move TORMENTPWALKVELS 64 // standard is 72 pig is 11.1% slower
move TORMENTPRUNVELS 96 // standard is 108 pig is 11.1% slower
move TORMENTPSTOPPED

ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY ATORMENTPWALK TORMENTPWALKVELS seekplayer
ai AITORMENTPSHOOTENEMY ATORMENTPSHOOT TORMENTPSTOPPED faceplayer
ai AITORMENTPFLEEENEMY ATORMENTPWALK TORMENTPWALKVELS fleeenemy
ai AITORMENTPSHOOT ATORMENTPSHOOT TORMENTPSTOPPED faceplayer
ai AITORMENTPDODGE ATORMENTPRUN TORMENTPRUNVELS dodgebullet
ai AITORMENTPCHARGE ATORMENTPRUN TORMENTPRUNVELS seekplayer
ai AITORMENTPDIVING ATORMENTPDIVE TORMENTPSTOPPED faceplayer
ai AITORMENTPDYING ATORMENTPDYING TORMENTPSTOPPED faceplayer
ai AITORMENTPHIT ATORMENTPHIT TORMENTPSTOPPED faceplayer

state tormentseekenemystate

  ifai AITORMENTPCHARGE
  {
    ifcansee
      ifpdistl 3084
    {
      ifnotmoving
        ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
      else
        ai AITORMENTPDIVING
    }
    break
  }
  else iffloordistl 32
  {
    ifpdistg 4096
    {
      ifactornotstayput
      ai AITORMENTPCHARGE
    }
    ifrnd 8
    {
      ifbulletnear
        ai AITORMENTPDODGE
    }
  }

  ifrnd 128
    ifcansee
  {
    ifai AITORMENTPDODGE
    {
      ifcount 32
        ai AITORMENTPCHARGE
          break
    }
    iffloordistl 32
    {
      ifpdistl 1024
        ifp palive
          ifcanshoottarget
      {
        ai AITORMENTPSHOOTENEMY
        break
      }
      ifcount 48
      {
        ifrnd 8
          ifp palive
            ifcanshoottarget
        {
          ifrnd 192
            ai AITORMENTPSHOOTENEMY
          else
            ai AITORMENTPDIVING
          break
        }
      }
    }
  }
ends


state tormentshootenemystate

  {
    ifcount 12 nullop
    else
      ifcount 11
    {
      ifcanshoottarget
      {
        sound PIG_ATTACK
        shoot SHOTGUN
        shoot SHOTGUN
        shoot SHOTGUN
        shoot SHOTGUN
      }
      else
        ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
    }
    ifcount 25 nullop
    else
      ifcount 24
      {
        action ATORMENTPCOCK
        sound SHOTGUN_COCK
      }
    ifcount 48 nullop
    else
      ifcount 47
    {
      ifcanshoottarget
      {
        sound PIG_ATTACK
        shoot SHOTGUN
        shoot SHOTGUN
        shoot SHOTGUN
        shoot SHOTGUN
      }
      else
        ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
    }
    ifcount 60 nullop
    else
      ifcount 59
      {
        action ATORMENTPCOCK
        sound SHOTGUN_COCK
      }
    ifcount 72
    {
      ifrnd 64
        resetcount
      else
      {
        ifpdistl 768
          ai AITORMENTPFLEEENEMY
        else
          ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
      }
    }
    ifaction ATORMENTPCOCK
      ifactioncount 2
        action ATORMENTPSHOOT
  }
  else
    ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
ends

state tormentfleeenemystate
  ifactioncount 8
    ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
  else
    ifnotmoving
      ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
ends

state tormentdivestate
  ifaction ATORMENTPDIVESHOOT
  {
    ifcansee
    {
      ifcount 12 nullop
      else
        ifcount 11
      {
        ifcanshoottarget
        {
          sound PIG_ATTACK
          shoot SHOTGUN
          shoot SHOTGUN
          shoot SHOTGUN
        }
        else
          ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
      }
      ifcount 25 nullop
      else
        ifcount 24
          sound SHOTGUN_COCK
      ifcount 48 nullop
      else
        ifcount 47
      {
        ifcanshoottarget
        {
          sound PIG_ATTACK
          shoot SHOTGUN
          shoot SHOTGUN
          shoot SHOTGUN
        }
        else
          ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
      }
      ifcount 60 nullop
      else
        ifcount 59
      {
        sound SHOTGUN_COCK
        ifgapzl 32
          ai AITORMENTPDIVING
        else
        {
          ifpdistl 4096
            ai AITORMENTPFLEEENEMY
          else
            ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
        }
      }
    }
    else
      ifgapzl 32
        ai AITORMENTPDIVING
      else
        ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
  }
  else
    ifactioncount 2
    ifp palive
    {
      resetcount
      action ATORMENTPDIVESHOOT
    }
ends

state checktormenthitstate
  spawn SMALLSMOKE
  ifdead
  {
    state random_wall_jibs
    ifrnd 16
      spawn ATOMICHEALTH
    else
      state drop_shotgun

    ifwasweapon GROWSPARK
    {
      shoot GROWSPARK
    }

    addkills 1

    ifwasweapon RADIUSEXPLOSION
    {
     cactor TORMENTDPIGDSPRITE
    }
    else
      ifwasweapon RPG
    {
     cactor TORMENTDPIGDSPRITE
    }
    else
      ai AITORMENTPDYING
        sound TPIG_DYING
  }
  else
  {
    sound TPIG_PAIN
    state random_wall_jibs

      ifwasweapon GROWSPARK
        sound EXPANDERHIT
    else
      ifrnd 32
        ai AITORMENTPHIT
    else
      ifrnd 64
        ai AITORMENTPSHOOTENEMY
    else
      ifrnd 64
      {
        ai AITORMENTPDIVING
        action ATORMENTPDIVESHOOT
      }
  }
ends

state tormentdyingstate
  ifactioncount 5
  {
    ifrnd 64
      spawn SMALLSMOKE
    state rf
    iffloordistl 8
      sound THUD
    action ATORMENTPDEAD
    move TORMENTPSTOPPED
    cactor TORMENTDPIGDSPRITE
    break
  }
ends

actor TORMENTDPIGSTAYSTILL TORMENTPIGSTRENGTH
ifcanseetarget
 {
  ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
  sound TPIG_RECOG
  cactor TORMENTDPIG
 }
enda
actor TORMENTDPIGDIVE TORMENTPIGSTRENGTH
  ai AITORMENTPDIVING
  action ATORMENTPDIVESHOOT
  cactor TORMENTDPIG
enda

useractor enemystayput TORMENTDPIGSTAYPUT TORMENTPIGSTRENGTH ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY cactor TORMENTDPIG enda

actor TORMENTDPIG TORMENTPIGSTRENGTH ATORMENTPSTAND
  fall
  state checksquished
  ifaction ATORMENTPSTAND
    ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
  else
    ifaction ATORMENTPDEAD
  {
    ifrespawn
      ifcount RESPAWNACTORTIME
    {
      spawn TRANSPORTERSTAR
      cstat 257
      strength TORMENTPIGSTRENGTH
      ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
    }
    else
    {
      strength 0
      ifhitweapon
        ifwasweapon RADIUSEXPLOSION
      {
       cactor TORMENTDPIGDSPRITE
      }
      break
    }
  }
  else
    ifai AITORMENTPDYING
      state tormentdyingstate
  else
    ifai AITORMENTPHIT
    {
      ifactioncount 3
      ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
    }
  else
  {
    ifai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY
      state tormentseekenemystate
    else
      ifai AITORMENTPDODGE
        state tormentseekenemystate
    else
      ifai AITORMENTPSHOOTENEMY
        state tormentshootenemystate
    else
      ifai AITORMENTPFLEEENEMY
        state tormentfleeenemystate
    else
      ifai AITORMENTPDIVING
        state tormentdivestate
    else
      ifai AITORMENTPCHARGE
        state tormentseekenemystate
    ifhitweapon
      state checktormenthitstate
    ifrnd 1
    {
      ifrnd 32
        soundonce TPIG_ROAM
      else
        ifrnd 64
         { soundonce TPIG_ROAM2 }
        ifrnd 72 { ifcansee { spawn FIRESPREADOR spawn FIRESPREADOR } }
      else
        soundonce TPIG_ROAM3
	  ifrnd 94 { ifcansee { spawn FIRESPREADOR spawn FIRESPREADOR spawn FIRESPREADOR } }
    }
  }
enda

[Zaxtor]

PS i removed the quote 111,
Was a test to make sure that part of the code works

[Danukem]

 Trooper Dan, on 14 March 2018 - 07:50 PM, said:

If you still can't get it to work, post your code for both actors, including which tile numbers you are using, all the move definitions, etc.

So which tile numbers are you using? If that actor overlaps the PIGCOP tiles, then that could be your problem.

[Zaxtor]

The tile number is 19839


I would'nt mind if it goes in other sectors with same tile as current tile as long he doesn't fall into the lava lol.

PS
At the moment the pig cop is alone in sector.

All others of his kind are in the same tile number as the one who is with stayput

[Danukem]

Maybe it's not enough to have a useractor enemystayput, maybe the tile you switch to also has to be a useractor.
Try this. Instead of

actor TORMENTDPIG TORMENTPIGSTRENGTH ATORMENTPSTAND

useractor enemy TORMENTDPIG TORMENTPIGSTRENGTH ATORMENTPSTAND

_____________________________________________________

If that doesn't work, then just add the stayput code into the actor.

gamevar staysector -1 2
gamevar lastx 0 2
gamevar lasty 0 2

useractor enemystayput TORMENTDPIGSTAYPUT TORMENTPIGSTRENGTH 
     cstat 257
     geta[].sectnum staysector
     cactor TORMENTDPIG 
     ai AITORMENTPSEEKENEMY 
enda

// also edit this part of the main actor:

useractor enemy TORMENTDPIG TORMENTPIGSTRENGTH ATORMENTPSTAND
  fall
  state checksquished
  ifn staysector -1 // stayput enemy
  {
     ife sprite[].sectnum staysector { geta[].x lastx geta[].y lasty }
     else { seta[].x lastx seta[].y lasty }
  }
  // rest of code as normal

[Zaxtor]

It works.
Pig no longer "commits suicide"

thx

[Danukem]

You know how you can blow up corpses with RPG or RADIUSEXPLOSION, even though they are cstat 0? This does not work on actors defined as notenemy -- they will not detect the hit. So here I am trying to figure out why I can't blow up my civilian corpses, and it turns out that is the reason. It's amazing to me that I never noticed that in all of these years. Incidentally it's pretty annoying.