[VGA]

Have you ever posted your workflow? How do you reverse, do you use the Dosbox debugger? And then recreate the game functions in Java and use eduke32 code as a c++ library or something for the rendering .... how does it all work?

Also, when it comes to Witchhaven or Tekwar, please don't go for an accurate recreation, those games are fucked up, noone wants those bugs

[TheXna]

VGA, on 20 March 2018 - 04:08 PM, said:

Also, when it comes to Witchhaven or Tekwar, please don't go for an accurate recreation, those games are fucked up, noone wants those bugs

He could focus on the simple task by now, I don't see M210 doing personal fixes to Tekwar since it doesn't have major bugs and it's fully playable like Witchaven, the difference is that witchaven bugs Affects a lot in the core gameplay (Combat, Platforming, Sound ambience problems and music loop glitches too! And there's is some fatal crashes in the GDX port!) , Tekwar is really easy to pass through! and almost no one cares about Tekwar!, Witchaven already has a patch by Ettingrinder, which is a pretty good patch overall! I hope that M210 Includes EGWhaven Patches for this port, cause it would fix a lot!

[SPILL]

M210, could you add an optional feature that will allow us to play the alternate version of the credits? It would be amazing to finally utilize this!



However this particular cutscene is a AVI file type. I'm not sure if this can be supported.

[m210®]

VGA, on 20 March 2018 - 04:08 PM, said:

Have you ever posted your workflow? How do you reverse, do you use the Dosbox debugger? And then recreate the game functions in Java and use eduke32 code as a c++ library or something for the rendering .... how does it all work?

No, I never posted my works, because it will take a lot of memory, and this material will useful only for pragrammers whos know an assembler.

I'm not using Dosbox debugger, it's useless app at all.

SPILL, on 20 March 2018 - 09:48 PM, said:

M210, could you add an optional feature that will allow us to play the alternate version of the credits? It would be amazing to finally utilize this!

What format has this credits? QAV or SMK? There isn't easier to make it as cutscene before monolith credits?
If this is a QAV format, I can make an option in INI-file

[m210®]

https://youtu.be/9lHtccA7JHo
I synced blood02.dem file, it working without problem now
Btw, breakable wall had more one problem and on the last screenshot you can see, that it's not a same too.
So, it took almost one day to make this demo playing correctly. Comparing and reverse-engeenering is a very slow job.

[SPILL]

M210, on 21 March 2018 - 03:16 AM, said:

What format has this credits? QAV or SMK? There isn't easier to make it as cutscene before monolith credits?
If this is a QAV format, I can make an option in INI-file

No unfortunately it is an AVI file type.

[m210®]

SPILL, on 21 March 2018 - 06:32 AM, said:

No unfortunately it is an AVI file type.

I'm not sure, can I make avi support. And btw avi has a lot of codecs and each modder will use "own lovely codec", which I think bloodgdx will not support And as I think avi is a commercial format, there is hard to find library foe support it

[Tekedon]

Someone with the smacker tools should be able to convert it to smk though. I don't have them anymore unfortuneatly.

[Fantinaikos]

According this table, you can turn an AVI into an SMK using the convertion feature of VLC mediaplayer.

http://conversionai....ssed-movie-file

[Tekedon]

Not sure if my memory serves me correct but I think you need it to be a specific version of smacker to get the smk files to work with Blood.
But maybe M210 could make it work anyway as long as it's smk.

[m210®]

Tekedon, on 21 March 2018 - 07:23 AM, said:

Not sure if my memory serves me correct but I think you need it to be a specific version of smacker to get the smk files to work with Blood.
But maybe M210 could make it work anyway as long as it's smk.

My smk library should work with any formats (there is two versions and 4 video codecs as I remember)

[Fantinaikos]

If the VLC method does not work, the Smacker tools can be downloaded from here: http://www.radgameto...com/smkdown.htm

Found on the Transfusion Blood forum, coincidentally.
http://forums.transf...wtopic.php?t=42

[m210®]

I made a last video with playing of official demo file



This demo also can't playing correctly without copy sorted array of rx-tx system from dosbox, because qsort algorithm has differents from Java's sort.

[Tekedon]

Good job! So what are you planning to get done until the next release?

[m210®]

I don't know...I will comparing all my broken demos at first

[m210®]

I ported watcom's qsort method. So, all of official demos from v1.21 playing correctly now and at near future BloodGDX will playing all of Blood's demos

[TheXna]

M210, on 25 March 2018 - 11:57 AM, said:

I ported watcom's qsort method. So, all of official demos from v1.21 playing correctly now and at near future BloodGDX will playing all of Blood's demos

Good stuff as always M210! Keep it up!

[Phredreeke]

will demo compatibility help with replicating monster behavior?

[Zaxx]

Phredreeke, on 25 March 2018 - 02:39 PM, said:

will demo compatibility help with replicating monster behavior?

I'm curious about this too. What good demo playback will do when it comes to the port overall apart from the obvious nostalgia factor of "yay, demo playback"?

[Lunick]

M210, on 22 March 2018 - 04:07 AM, said:

I made a last video with playing of official demo file



This demo also can't playing correctly without copy sorted array of rx-tx system from dosbox, because qsort algorithm has differents from Java's sort.

These demo videos give a good idea of how the colours are not quite right compared to the DOS version, is that being worked on?

[m210®]

Phredreeke, on 25 March 2018 - 02:39 PM, said:

will demo compatibility help with replicating monster behavior?

Of cource This is a my main target to get it works.

[fgsfds]

Phredreeke, on 25 March 2018 - 02:39 PM, said:

will demo compatibility help with replicating monster behavior?

Zaxx, on 25 March 2018 - 04:08 PM, said:

I'm curious about this too. What good demo playback will do when it comes to the port overall apart from the obvious nostalgia factor of "yay, demo playback"?

If you know how demos work in build engine, it becomes obvious that when BGDX is able to flawlessly play any demo from 1.21, it will be safe to say that it's 99% accurate to the original game it terms of gameplay and AI. So making demos play correctly is a huge deal.

Lunick, on 25 March 2018 - 05:00 PM, said:

These demo videos give a good idea of how the colours are not quite right compared to the DOS version, is that being worked on?

It still uses opengl shading instead of shade tables, so the differences are expected. "Palette emulation" from eduke could solve the problem.

[Dr_Proton]

So does this mean the more demos we "feed" BloodGDX, the better/ more acurate it gets?

[fgsfds]

Kinda. After the main problems with syncing are fixed in a test maps, it will make sense to simply record gameplay demos where you play like you normally would, and see if it works. At some point all the problems should be found and fixed.

[Phredreeke]

Would it be possible to add a flag to switch between Cerberus old and new AI?

In BloodGDX (current) and Blood 1.12 once you activate all the switches and the floors collapse in E3M7 he will run around in circles for a while.
In BloodCM and Blood 1.00 he will run towards you as soon as you approach him. This behaviour makes a lot more sense to me

[m210®]

Phredreeke, on 26 March 2018 - 04:26 AM, said:

Would it be possible to add a flag to switch between Cerberus old and new AI?

I can't answer on your time at this time.

I synced a long demo file with e1m2 map today. So, at future BloodGDX will 100% as original

[SPILL]

That's incredible

[Ceekur]

Phredreeke, on 26 March 2018 - 04:26 AM, said:

Would it be possible to add a flag to switch between Cerberus old and new AI?

In BloodGDX (current) and Blood 1.12 once you activate all the switches and the floors collapse in E3M7 he will run around in circles for a while.
In BloodCM and Blood 1.00 he will run towards you as soon as you approach him. This behaviour makes a lot more sense to me

So a general toggle (perhaps a new menu option for each monster) with "retail AI" and "adjusted AI"? That could be a decent idea, and a compromise between original dev work, and subjective AI improvements. In the final release of Blood 1.21, I've experienced Cerberus doing the same thing in his pit. Even if it makes more sense to change his AI (or rather, remove this quirk), we probably should reach retail accuracy first.

[Phredreeke]

I haven't done any comparisons with other monsters, Cerberus is just the one that sticks out.

[Tekedon]

Any cool news what is happening? How is the demo syncing coming along?