[Micky C]

I've spent some time looking through mapster. It's very nice how you've collected textures and sprites into relevant categories for easy selection. That should greatly speed up the whole texturing process. Some of the additional key combinations through mapster scripting are useful too, and it's nice that they're self-describing in-game.

The art is looking very versatile and it's clear that everyone has gone through some effort to make sure this is the case, especially in combination with the pal system which has been at the forefront of the artists' minds the entire time.

I'm a bit surprised that many of the effects don't have this self-describing quality. IMO if you point the mouse at an effect sprite, it should give you some information about what the sprite does and how to use it. Perhaps this will be added in later along with the documentation oasiz is going to write? Many of the SEs are still listed as "unknown".
Can there also be a document explaining the pal colours? Looks to be some variant of Extclut but it'd be nice to have a list somewhere.

[BrOiler1985]

Hey guys! My first post in a loooong time.

I just wanted to say that Ion Fury is freaking awesome. The devs have done a really good job with this. Ion Maiden Fury is really on par with the great build games! Can't wait to get my big box!

After playing throught the first few zones I thought I'd give Mapster32 a go again, since it recognizes Ion Fury now. The problem is that it detects my Duke 3D installation and uses Dukes palette. This makes the artwork look.. strange .
Is there a way to force Mapster to use IF's palette?

[LeoD]

 BrOiler1985, on 18 August 2019 - 06:10 AM, said:

Is there a way to force Mapster to use IF's palette?

Yes. Get Voidpoint's "Ion Fury Level Editor" from here. It's actually the same Mapster32 executable as in the corresponding synthesis build. But you need the accompanying files to work with IF maps.

[BrOiler1985]

 LeoD, on 18 August 2019 - 06:31 AM, said:

Yes. Get Voidpoint's "Ion Fury Level Editor" from here. It's actually the same Mapster32 executable as in the corresponding synthesis build. But you need the accompanying files to work with IF maps.

Thanks! Works perfectly

[gemeaux333]

What about the multi-language support/translation ?

[Fox]

 BrOiler1985, on 18 August 2019 - 06:10 AM, said:

After playing throught the first few zones I thought I'd give Mapster32 a go again, since it recognizes Ion Fury now. The problem is that it detects my Duke 3D installation and uses Dukes palette. This makes the artwork look.. strange .
Is there a way to force Mapster to use IF's palette?

The palette files and defs should have been included in the game. Just copy them.

[MetHy]

 Micky C, on 18 August 2019 - 05:45 AM, said:

I've spent some time looking through mapster. It's very nice how you've collected textures and sprites into relevant categories for easy selection. That should greatly speed up the whole texturing process. Some of the additional key combinations through mapster scripting are useful too, and it's nice that they're self-describing in-game.

The art is looking very versatile and it's clear that everyone has gone through some effort to make sure this is the case, especially in combination with the pal system which has been at the forefront of the artists' minds the entire time.

I'm a bit surprised that many of the effects don't have this self-describing quality. IMO if you point the mouse at an effect sprite, it should give you some information about what the sprite does and how to use it. Perhaps this will be added in later along with the documentation oasiz is going to write? Many of the SEs are still listed as "unknown".
Can there also be a document explaining the pal colours? Looks to be some variant of Extclut but it'd be nice to have a list somewhere.

The list of textures in the group tiles is not complete. I don't think it'll ever be (there are some corner cases, for instance), but I'll try to update it the best I can when I have time.

For the new effects, most of them give info (flags etc) when you hover your mouse over it. Some are missing, and others don't have flags so we personally didn't need an explanation.

As for "SE Unkown", nothing we can do without source changes if I recall correctly; however you can get a list of all SE and STs (old and new) by holding ctrl+alt+shift.

There should be more mapping info given soon covering all of that and more, just need to a be a litttle bit more patient as everyone's been super busy

[oasiz]

 Micky C, on 18 August 2019 - 05:45 AM, said:

I'm a bit surprised that many of the effects don't have this self-describing quality. IMO if you point the mouse at an effect sprite, it should give you some information about what the sprite does and how to use it. Perhaps this will be added in later along with the documentation oasiz is going to write? Many of the SEs are still listed as "unknown".
Can there also be a document explaining the pal colours? Looks to be some variant of Extclut but it'd be nice to have a list somewhere.

Damn, how did I manage to miss those pillars, even testers too I think

Btw, use that archived mapster32 as it has some .m32 scripts that are vital supplemental material for any new fx that we have in the game.
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[MrFlibble]

A belated congrats on the release!

I was wondering, will the preview campaign now function as a public demo of the game, or will it just remain an extra for the folks who pre-ordered?

[MetHy]

The preview campaign can be played by everyone through the "bonus missions" menu in the full game.
The preview version of Hekel's House of Horrors, which wasn't put in the menu because it was on its own (not connected to other preview maps) and also closer to its final full campaign version than most of the preview maps, is also there somewhere, for people to find.

[PokeThePower]

 oasiz, on 18 August 2019 - 08:11 AM, said:

Damn, how did I manage to miss those pillars, even testers too I think

This is the one that caught my eye early on... it was like a record scratch specifically because everything is so meticulously well done.

Spoiler

[Fox]

 Micky C, on 18 August 2019 - 05:45 AM, said:

Can there also be a document explaining the pal colours? Looks to be some variant of Extclut but it'd be nice to have a list somewhere.

Spoiler

0: Normal

1-12 Remap whole spectrum without fullbrights

1: Grayscale
2: Tan
3: Brown
4: Desaturated Green
5: Green
6: Desaturated Blue
7: Blue
8: Purple
9: Red
10: Orange-brown
11: Yellow
12: Orange-yellow

13-17 Remaps blue range and fullbrights
(For light textures, but can be used for remapping blue color if you like the results)

13: Gray
14: Yellow/orange
15: Red
16: Green
17: Blue

18-29 Remaps blue range (Actors and textures)

18: Grayscale
19: Tan
20: Brown
21: Desaturated Green
22: Green
23: Desaturated Blue
24: Blue
25: Purple
26: Red
27: Orange-brown
28: Yellow
29: Orange-yellow

30-41 Remaps blue both ranges - Saturated blue into a color and the desat blue into a desaturated variant (Actors and textures)

30: Grayscale / Grayscale
31: Tan / Grayscale
32: Brown / Tan
33: Desaturated Green / Grayscale
34: Green / Desaturated Green
35: Desaturated Blue / Grayscale
36: Blue / Desaturated Blue
37: Purple / Desaturated Blue
38: Red / Brown
39: Orange-brown / Brown
40: Yellow / Tan
41: Orange-yellow / Brown

42-53 Remap whole spectrum without fullbrights (Sprites inherit the sector floor palette)

42: Grayscale
43: Tan
44: Brown
45: Desaturated Green
46: Green
47: Desaturated Blue
48: Blue
49: Purple
50: Red
51: Orange-brown
52: Yellow
53: Orange-yellow

54-59 Disable fullbrights, light remaps without fullbrights

54: Disable fullbrights (They're converted to closest normal colors)

55: Fullbrights are standard blue color
56: Blue range is gray and fullbrights are standard gray
57: Blue range is green and fullbrights are standard green
58: Blue range is orange-yellow and fullbrights are standard orange-yellow
59: Blue range is red and fullbrights are standard red

60-61 Low saturation

60: Low saturation with fullbrights intact
61: Low saturation with fullbrights desaturated and non fullbright

62: Boosted contrast

63: Inverted colors

64-75 Inverted + Color remaps

64: Inverted + remapped to gray
65: Inverted + remapped to tan
66: Inverted + remapped to brown
67: Inverted + remapped to pale green
68: Inverted + remapped to green
69: Inverted + remapped to pale blue
70: Inverted + remapped to blue
71: Inverted + remapped to purple
72: Inverted + remapped to red
73: Inverted + remapped to yellow/orange/red
74: Inverted + remapped to yellow
75: Inverted + remapped to yellow/brown

76-77 Pitch black

76: Pitch black but no change on fullbrights
77: Completely pitch black

78-90 Remap blue to metallic colors (primarily for vehicles)

78: Black
79: Silver
80: White
81: Tan
82: Brown
83: Desaturated Green
84: Green
85: Desaturated Blue
86: Blue
87: Purple
88: Red
89: Yellow
90: Gold

91-103 Remap blue and saturated blue to metallic colors (primarily for vehicles)

91: Black / Desaturated Blue
92: Silver / Desaturated Blue
93: White / Desaturated Blue
94: Tan / Grayscale
95: Brown / Tan
96: Desaturated Green / Grayscale
97: Green / Desaturated Green
98: Desaturated Blue / Gray
99: Blue / Desaturated Blue
100: Purple / Desaturated Blue
101: Red / Brown
102: Yellow / Tan
103: Gold / Tan

104-105 Orange tinting (rusty or burner appearance) with high contrast

104: Orange tinting with high contrast
105: Orange tinting with high contrast (disable fullbrights)

106-110 Remap blue to fullbrights

106: Fullbright blue
107: Fullbright gray
108: Fullbright green
109: Fullbright yellow/orange
110: Fullbright red

111-115 Remap whole spectrum to fullbrights

111: Fullbright blue [REMOVED]
112: Fullbright gray [REMOVED]
113: Fullbright green [REMOVED]
114: Fullbright yellow/orange [REMOVED]
115: Fullbright red [REMOVED]

116: Remap whole spectrum to the closest fullbright [REMOVED]

117: Remap fullbrights to pitch black

118-124 Shade tables

118: Fade to white ("screen"), opposite of regular fade to black ("multiply")
119: Fade to black boosted contrast ("color burn") without fullbrights
120: Fade to black boosted contrast ("color burn")
121: Fade to white boosted contrast ("color dodge")
122: Fade to black using substractive blend ("linear burn) without fullbrights
123: Fade to black using substractive blend ("linear burn)
124: Fade to white using additive blend ("linear dodge")

125-126 Orange tinting (rusty or burner appearance)

125: Orange tinting
126: Orange tinting (disable fullbrights)

1-12 Remap whole spectrum but preserve saturation

127: Tan
128: Brown
129: Desaturated Green
130: Green
131: Desaturated Blue
132: Blue
133: Purple
134: Red
135: Orange-brown
136: Yellow
137: Orange-yellow

138-139 All white

138: All white but no change on fullbrights
139: Completely all white

140: remap blue and fullbright blue to pitch black and desaturated blue to dark gray

141: desaturate blue, desaturated blue, green and desaturated green

142-152: color overlay

142: Tan
143: Brown
144: Desaturated Green
145: Green
146: Desaturated Blue
147: Blue
148: Purple
149: Red
150: Orange-brown
151: Yellow
152: Orange-yellow

153-164 Remap saturated brown, brown, blue and green ranges (primarily for zombies)

[Kyanos]

That palswap list is mighty impressive, I've always loved great pixel art and knowing the game palettes capabilities has me curious what other things will make this stand out as probably the go to modding build game of tomorrow.

[Master O]

So now that Ion Fury is out, what's next for this game? Multiplayer and Co-op?

[Dzierzan]

I guess the left hand goes down too slow when you pick up a dart.

[Truck Stop Santa Claus]

has anyone been posting any custom maps yet?

[Tekedon]

I think it's too early, for any good maps atleast. But I bet some maps/mods will be made.

[Truck Stop Santa Claus]

Tekedon, on 18 August 2019 - 12:10 PM, said:

I think it's too early, for any good maps atleast. But I bet some maps/mods will be made.

I don't mind playing crappy maps

[t800]

MrFlibble, on 18 August 2019 - 08:34 AM, said:

A belated congrats on the release!I was wondering, will the preview campaign now function as a public demo of the game, or will it just remain an extra for the folks who pre-ordered?

MetHy, on 18 August 2019 - 08:42 AM, said:

The preview campaign can be played by everyone through the "bonus missions" menu in the full game.The preview version of Hekel's House of Horrors, which wasn't put in the menu because it was on its own (not connected to other preview maps) and also closer to its final full campaign version than most of the preview maps, is also there somewhere, for people to find.

I think MrFlibble's question still stands. I mean, are you not interested in having some sort of promotional demo/shareware tryout? It would also fit nicely your image of game "out of 90s time capsule", where every serious FPS title used to have its demo/shareware.
Just replace binary with its new up to date optimized version, that would surely suffice.

[Phredreeke]

Steam's 2 hour refund window has kinda mitigated the need for demos though.

[Danukem]

Making the player press the interact key every time they want to pick up 10 bullets from the chaingun ammo pile is not a good design choice. At first I thought I was picking up ammo when running over it, as one would expect (other ammo works that way). Then it became clear that nothing was being added to my weapons. Finally thought to press interact on it and noticed something happen, and naturally assumed it had filled up the weapon. But then I noticed I still had hardly any ammo. It's already a really annoying fight with endless adds spawning in, the player doesn't want to sit over a pile and mash the button while getting shot.

[Phredreeke]

Yeah that felt a bit unintuitive.

[t800]

Phredreeke, on 18 August 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:

Steam's 2 hour refund window has kinda mitigated the need for demos though.

Need maybe? But would it be not nice advertising "retro" gesture? For example Warlock does have demo on Steam.

[Master O]

Truck Stop Santa Claus, on 18 August 2019 - 12:03 PM, said:

has anyone been posting any custom maps yet?

You just know someone's gonna make an Ion Fury version of Nuts.wad...

[Zaxx]

Duuuude, I'm pretty sure that IF is the best FPS since Half-Life when it comes to handling continous campaign progression. It's awesome how the whole campaign just fits together and you even managed to include "that thing we remember from Duke 3D" in there for good measure one time.

Another thing I loved is how well the preview campaign content was reintegrated into the main game: with just the right amount of changes to feel unique again. Basically the preview relates to the main game as custom demos related to their full products back in the day.

[Sledgehammer]

Phredreeke, on 18 August 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:

Steam's 2 hour refund window has kinda mitigated the need for demos though.

Some people are quite lazy when it comes to that, and even more people find it pretty inconvenient, not to mention that some may not have money at the moment they have some interest about the game. A proper simple demo is just much more convenient for this purpose, to be honest, which is why plenty of people still ask the devs to provide demos for games. Also, it can help to avoid another problem such as refund policy abuse.

[One Man Army]

I've heard great things about Ion Fury, it got me very excited. And now that it's here it's safe to say it was worth the wait.

Graphically it looks fantastic for a build engine game, very detailed environments specially the city levels. It even goes over the top to have voxels for many items and objects in the game world.

Gameplay is like any other build engine game, such as Duke Nukem, Blood and Shadow Warrior you have to run and gun quickly in those games, and Ion Fury is no different. The game can be heavy on the resource management, finding little secret stashes of supplies is always satisfying. Bombshells weapons are fun the use, and I like how the enemies die.

The music was serviceable but it wasn't great either. I still prefer my Quake 2 music over Ion Fury dance music.

Story wasn't terrible, but a little too simplistic. I mean the world looks so much more realistic, therefore a deeper story would've complemented the very detailed environments. I guess most people don't care about the story, in these type of action oriented games, they want to see a great spectacle, big ass explosions just like Michael Bay film.

And let's talk about presentation the other build engine games duke, blood and SW have those CGI cut scenes, Ion Fury just a slideshow with voiceover. The developers had the time to make voxels but they couldn't fit it into their schedules to make cinematics? Maybe that's an unfair comparison, Bombshell and the Professor Jadus Heskel did have little conversations throughout the game that move the plot forward, they were serviceable, and it kept the gameplay continuous like half-life. But I'm just saying it would have been nice to have a cut scene, in the beginning and end of the game.

I have very few gripes with the game. Some enemies are so far away there shrouded in darkness they can hit you before you can see them, very unfair. The game was quite long, would be nice have a little bit more variety.
More types of weapons such as rocket launcher and BFG. And to have more types of enemy units.

Overall it was a fun game, the issues I have with it are minor ones.
I give the game a 4 out of 5.

[Micky C]

Demos aren't quite as important as they used to be since it's so easy to watch gameplay on the internet. That simply wasn't an option back in the day. There is a difference between watching a game and playing it, but my point is that it's much easier to figure out if you'd like a game without having to play it then it was back in the 90's.

Zaxx, on 18 August 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:

Another thing I loved is how well the preview campaign content was reintegrated into the main game: with just the right amount of changes to feel unique again. Basically the preview relates to the main game as custom demos related to their full products back in the day.

Reintegrated with changes?

I was under the impression that the main IF campaign is the original work. The preview campaign was simply bits that were extracted from the main campaign (the more finished bits that is) and then stitched together with a downwards lift and upwards ladder.

[Truck Stop Santa Claus]

Master O, on 18 August 2019 - 04:58 PM, said:

You just know someone's gonna make an Ion Fury version of Nuts.wad...

Looking forward to it
just light my pc on fire baby

[NightFright]

With tons of unlimited Bowling Bomb powerups, sure. Let the bowling begin!