[Lukaso]

LeoD, on Jan 23 2010, 09:53 PM, said:

I also don't like the new model because it fits more to a fifties-style SF environment rather than the mid-nineties of Duke.

But configuring this kind of stuff by menues would open a can of worms because everyone has his own opinion about what fits and what not. You will be better off configuring that yourself in your own installation. Putting the right .jpg/.png in place and maybe some .def editing should do the trick.

AT least this is what I did with the XXX-[lite]-pack and the DNF3D Community Pack
[http://forums.duke4....ic=1087&st=210]
and it worked out quite well. (Plus I deleted DukePlus' annoying jump voices)

By the way - the new BFG is GREAT.

I tried it but i think that need to be done more then rename right jpgs or pngs, im not good in programming but if i changed needed pictures i got old model of pistol (in original resolution) or new pistol with skin of alien lasergun.

I dont know what next is need to change, i cannt change md2 and md3 files.

But I think that set option between that 2 guns into duke plus menu cannt be so hard for autor, he did it for example with mp5 and it is very good. Sometimes i like to play with mp5, sometimes with hand cannon. Same with shotgun.

But if DeeperThought cannt programing this option I will be like if someone help me with manual changing of that weapon, like I said Im not good programmer.
Thank you.

(sorry for my bad english)

[Stabs]

Can i get a little help writing this, iam not sure what i do but i think ive got a way to do it

every quoter i have has a matching picture, they share the same lotag, now if the picture quoter is pal 47 i want it to make its matching quote a pal 12, how would i write this up?

all my quote pics are just on hitag 10899 with pal variations.

gamevar i 0 0

include names.h
defstate quoters
for i allsprites ifactor QUOTER ifge .hitag 10899 & pal 47 & lotag is the same
make the sprite with a matching lotag pal 12
ends

[Danukem]

DanM, on Jan 23 2010, 10:21 PM, said:

Can i get a little help writing this, iam not sure what i do but i think ive got a way to do it

every quoter i have has a matching picture, they share the same lotag, now if the picture quoter is pal 47 i want it to make its matching quote a pal 12, how would i write this up?

all my quote pics are just on hitag 10899 with pal variations.

gamevar i 0 0

include names.h
defstate quoters
for i allsprites ifactor QUOTER ifge .hitag 10899 & pal 47 & lotag is the same
make the sprite with a matching lotag pal 12
ends

I'm not familiar with mapster script, but based on looking at some example code this might work:

gamevar i 0 0
gamevar k 0 0

include names.h
defstate quoterpals
for i allsprites ifactor QUOTER ife .hitag 10899 ife .pal 47
{
	set k 0
	for k allsprites ifactor QUOTER ifn k i ife .lotag sprite[i].lotag
	set .pal 12
}

ends

I don't have time to test it now, but if it doesn't work I can probably fix it (or someone else can point out my errors).

[Stabs]

thanks ill try that out

i may be able to slightly modify it if it dosnt work

[Stabs]

brilliant

and i added a whole bunch of other ones by changing 2 numbers, this script stuff is great, i wont have to think as much now

[williamjcm]

The Commander, on Jan 15 2010, 07:00 AM, said:

I haven't really looked at how the cameras work, so I'm not sure if it does do this but the cameras could be good if they worked on tagged sectors like they seem to be in this video.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=CCUqQoSYTDA

I've seen it 5 minutes ago and I've realized that Devil May Cry's cameras are acting the same way.

And the changing weapons in the character's hands is a great effect. DT, can this effect be implemented in DP ?

[Jblade]

Quote

And the changing weapons in the character's hands is a great effect. DT, can this effect be implemented in DP ?

The problem has never been code and stuff, just art - Duke's weapon is built into his model and there's no support for submodels yet so somebody would have to add in every weapon to Duke's model for it to work, and that would require new animations as well.

[williamjcm]

James, on Jan 24 2010, 03:19 PM, said:

The problem has never been code and stuff, just art - Duke's weapon is built into his model and there's no support for submodels yet so somebody would have to add in every weapon to Duke's model for it to work, and that would require new animations as well.

I just wanted to know about it. If I were good at programming, I would completely remake Eduke32 and add a mod manager based on Steam.

NOTE : I probably made some spelling or grammar errors. I'm French

[Lukaso]

Hi again, I solved my request with Laser gun (new model change back to old). I only changed these parameters in dukeplus.def

Quote

// LASER PISTOL PICKUP (6145)
model "DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES/GRAPHICS/WEAPONS/lasergun_pickup.md3" {
scale 3.0 shade 1
skin { pal 0 file "DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES/GRAPHICS/WEAPONS/lasergun_1.jpg" }
frame { name "(from 3DSMax)" tile 6145 }
}

// HUD Laser Pistol (6146)
model "DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES/GRAPHICS/WEAPONS/lasergun_1.md3" {
scale 1.9
skin { pal 0 surface 0 file "DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES/GRAPHICS/WEAPONS/lasergun_1.jpg" }
skin { pal 0 surface 1 file "DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES/GRAPHICS/WEAPONS/laser6146_pistol.png" }
// glow { file "DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES/GRAPHICS/WEAPONS/laser6146_pistol_g.png" }
frame { name "idle" tile0 6146 tile1 6148 smoothduration 0.0 }
hud { tile0 6150 tile1 6151 xadd -0.15 yadd 1.36 zadd -0.68 angadd -37 }
// hud { tile0 6146 tile1 6148 xadd -0.36 yadd 1.32 zadd -0.66 angadd -20 }
hud { tile0 6146 tile1 6148 xadd 0.25 yadd 1.32 zadd -0.66 angadd -40 }
}

texture 6152 { pal 0 { file "DUKEPLUS_RESOURCES/GRAPHICS/WEAPONS/laserflash.png" nocompress nodownsize } }

to parameters from Duke Plus 2.06 but I have one problem now.

Gun works perfectly, pick up model too but if I shot, laserflash is in bad position. Look at second picture.



What's wrong? What I need to change yet?

[Danukem]

Lukaso, on Jan 24 2010, 01:20 PM, said:

What's wrong? What I need to change yet?

What happened was I had to shift the laser to the right to match Gambini's model. The code for this is in DUKEPLUS.CON, in EVENT_EGS:


case FIRELASER

action FIRELASERACTION

ifspawnedby APLAYER
{
getactor[THISACTOR].extra temp
shiftvarl temp 1
setactor[THISACTOR].extra temp
setactor[THISACTOR].xoffset -32
}

If you remove or comment out the line which sets the xoffset, it should fire from the center again.

[Stabs]

is there mapster script that can change the hitag of a group of sprites that are selected via right shift?

or another one that incrementally increase the lotag / hitag by 1 of a single sprite thats been pasted?

anyone feel free to chime in on this one

[Lukaso]

DeeperThought, on Jan 25 2010, 12:04 AM, said:

What happened was I had to shift the laser to the right to match Gambini's model. The code for this is in DUKEPLUS.CON, in EVENT_EGS:


case FIRELASER

action FIRELASERACTION

ifspawnedby APLAYER
{
getactor[THISACTOR].extra temp
shiftvarl temp 1
setactor[THISACTOR].extra temp
setactor[THISACTOR].xoffset -32
}

If you remove or comment out the line which sets the xoffset, it should fire from the center again.

Thank you for help, I deleted link "setactor[THISACTOR].xoffset -32" but laserflash is still on right position from weapon is need anything else to change? In HUDPLUS.CON for example or other file?

[Danukem]

Lukaso, on Jan 25 2010, 08:23 AM, said:

Thank you for help, I deleted link "setactor[THISACTOR].xoffset -32" but laserflash is still on right position from weapon is need anything else to change? In HUDPLUS.CON for example or other file?

Nope, it's just that one line. I commented it out myself to test and it made the laser centered again. I'm not sure how you managed to screw that up, but you did.

[Lukaso]

DeeperThought, on Jan 25 2010, 04:25 PM, said:

Nope, it's just that one line. I commented it out myself to test and it made the laser centered again. I'm not sure how you managed to screw that up, but you did.

Only that one line? I didnt comment it (I dont know how) I simple deleted it (in your previous post that line which you marked with bold font) and it sill doesnt work. I did it 3 times and nothing laserflash still on right position. Can you send me please your modified DUKEPLUS.CON ? I will look whats wrong but I think nothing.

[Danukem]

Either you didn't save the change, or the copy of DUKEPLUS.CON that you edited was not the copy loaded by the game.

[Lukaso]

DeeperThought, on Jan 25 2010, 04:58 PM, said:

Either you didn't save the change, or the copy of DUKEPLUS.CON that you edited was not the copy loaded by the game.

It is saved, I see it, I edited it in wordpad and saved. In Duke game folder I have only one DUKEPLUS.CON, I checked it.

[Danukem]

Lukaso, on Jan 25 2010, 09:02 AM, said:

It is saved, I see it, I edited it in wordpad and saved. In Duke game folder I have only one DUKEPLUS.CON, I checked it.

This is the path of the copy that is used: DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON

[Lukaso]

DeeperThought, on Jan 25 2010, 05:05 PM, said:

This is the path of the copy that is used: DukePlus/dpcons/DUKEPLUS.CON

Same.
Im not fool I understand to computers.

Can you upload your modified DUKEPLUS.CON please? I will try it with it.

[Danukem]

Here.

Attached File(s)

•  DUKEPLUS.zip (74.96K)
  Number of downloads: 603

[Lukaso]

Ok I tested it but that file isnt modified. The line with xoffset is still here, through it I ran the game with it and still same.
Then I deleted that line from there and ran game again. Still same. Laserflash is still on right position.
I dont know where can be mistake, Im doing everything right way.

[Usurper]

Are you starting a new game, or loading a saved game?

[Lukaso]

Usurper, on Jan 25 2010, 06:17 PM, said:

Are you starting a new game, or loading a saved game?

Always started new.

I tried reinstall game too but still same...

[SFJake]

Nice new version, I guess, here's what I have to say.

Thanks for keeping the shotgun alt-fire for the devastator. The BFG... I mean no offense really, but its horrible. It feels more like those joke weapon you toy around with just for kicks. It has no place at all in Duke, and it looks incredibly out of place. I don't mind here, I'm just not using it, but...

The holoduke spawning bots is overkill. Its the same as the BFG, its kinda fun, but the thing is, its completely overpowered. You can spawn FOUR from one holoduke, and they use too many strong weapons. You fixed laser pistol for balance, but if anything throws balance out of the windows, thats this. When the bots only used the shotgun, it felt balanced - that is if you could only spawn one and if you could deactivate him.

The lightning holoduke had a place and a reason to exist, same as shotgun devastator. It was all fitting nicely and all balanced, everything with a different purpose and situations you would want to use them. Thats not the case anymore.

Its nice that you work hard and all for this, and you added a -lot- of good stuff especially for mappers, but I'm personally sticking with 2.06 for now.


Some other things: Hi-Res blood. Why no option? It looks out of place. And I mean really. The new explosions have one - they are nice, by the way, unfitting though, but I can turn them on/off. I share the thought also that the new laser pistol model is really bad, and.. well, yes, again, it doesn't fit.

[Danukem]

SFJake, on Jan 25 2010, 12:08 PM, said:

Thanks for keeping the shotgun alt-fire for the devastator. The BFG... I mean no offense really, but its horrible. It feels more like those joke weapon you toy around with just for kicks. It has no place at all in Duke, and it looks incredibly out of place. I don't mind here, I'm just not using it, but...

The BFG was made for an upcoming episode called The Imperium. In that episode, you will pick up parts of the weapon and it will gradually increase in power until it becomes the full weapon you used and don't like. So....for now just don't use it.

SFJake, on Jan 25 2010, 12:08 PM, said:

The holoduke spawning bots is overkill. Its the same as the BFG, its kinda fun, but the thing is, its completely overpowered. You can spawn FOUR from one holoduke, and they use too many strong weapons. You fixed laser pistol for balance, but if anything throws balance out of the windows, thats this. When the bots only used the shotgun, it felt balanced - that is if you could only spawn one and if you could deactivate him.

All right, maybe four is overkill, but I can change that with one line of code. And by the way, the holoduke lightning is still in the game; you obviously didn't even bother trying to use the Holoduke with the bot option off.

SFJake, on Jan 25 2010, 12:08 PM, said:

Some other things: Hi-Res blood. Why no option? It looks out of place.

The new hi-res blood that Chicken made looks very good, especially with the HRP. You can always remove it if you don't like it, simply by deleting dpblood1.png and dpblood2.png. Maybe at some point I will make it optional but it's not a high priority.

SFJake, on Jan 25 2010, 12:08 PM, said:

I share the thought also that the new laser pistol model is really bad, and.. well, yes, again, it doesn't fit.

The new one looks good to me...but what was so good about the old one? It was just the HRP pistol with a slightly modified skin slapped on it.

[Lukaso]

So I give it up, I dont know why changing that laser effect doesnt work like you said.
Nothing hard but I tried it for milion times and still same effect. Im going back to 2.06.

DeeperThought, on Jan 25 2010, 09:31 PM, said:

The new one looks good to me...but what was so good about the old one? It was just the HRP pistol with a slightly modified skin slapped on it.

The old one was imho more "duke nukem". Nice simple modified model, centre positioning, it looks more 21th century, not most like from future but still alien look.
Same as model of minigun. Nice simple model which keeps "duke nukem" style up and -by the way- grenades are amazing.
I hope that it will sometimes become 3D hi-res model like the other models.

[SFJake]

DeeperThought, on Jan 25 2010, 04:31 PM, said:

All right, maybe four is overkill, but I can change that with one line of code. And by the way, the holoduke lightning is still in the game; you obviously didn't even bother trying to use the Holoduke with the bot option off.

Ouch. I apologize. I don't know why I didn't switch it off and check it out. I still think the overpowered is a matter of weapon first, though, not just numbers. Pistol/Shotgun/chaingun alone, it wouldn't just wipe out entire rooms by itself. Anyway, thanks a lot for keeping the lightning one in as well. I don't know how I missed that and not the devastator, and I'll be using that unless you ever limit the holobot's weapons.

DeeperThought, on Jan 25 2010, 04:31 PM, said:

The new hi-res blood that Chicken made looks very good, especially with the HRP. You can always remove it if you don't like it, simply by deleting dpblood1.png and dpblood2.png. Maybe at some point I will make it optional but it's not a high priority.

I didn't know I could just remove it. Thats great. I don't mind/care for options if I can easily change it like that, I just wasn't aware of it. I guess thats all I needed to be using 2.07. I don't use HRP, hate it.

DeeperThought, on Jan 25 2010, 04:31 PM, said:

The new one looks good to me...but what was so good about the old one? It was just the HRP pistol with a slightly modified skin slapped on it.

The old one isn't anything -good-, but it fits. The new one looks more like something out of Mars Attack. I mean, I know Duke Nukem is not supposed to be too serious and all, but it just.. doesn't fit. That green thing in front is the problem. Sure, its more detailed and better in that sense, but when I look at the troopers, I don't see or would think they use anything like that.


And just throwing this out here: The Heavy RPG. I like the change (more balanced), but thats not the point. Does anyone use the alt-fire? Its quite weak in general, and the spread of the small rockets doesn't beat just using the primary fire's splash damage, which is a lot more powerful anyway.

I'm saying this because its the only weapon with a classic reload every 2 ammo. I still sometimes try to reload it in front of a wall.. then I'm glad the alt fire is weak. My point is I think you should be able to manually reload it - but since alt-fire and reload is all one command, its a problem I guess.

EDIT: Is there any way to manually edit what weapons bot get? I searched in the files but couldn't find anything.

EDIT 2: Alright, I think the bots are not that overpowered actually. With health bars on, I noticed that the damage they do is.. actually pathetic. A rocket often won't kill a standard pigcop in one hit, they take like 50 chaingun hit to kill a trooper, etc.

This isn't normal, right? When I hit the same monster, they did quickly, but the bots do very low damage. Then again, fixing it would make them too strong.. unless there is a way to make them use only shotgun/chaingun, like I said. I think in general, monsters you control/mind blasted too have low damage and can take a lot more hits than they should.

[Gambini]

I´m noticing some contempt to my weapon model. Some refinements in its details (not so cartoony) and a good smooth shading on the skin would make it look a bit better maybe. I can try to remake it eventually.

[Lord Misfit]

Don't get me wrong, the model itself is pretty nicely made and all, and for a more sci-fi environment, it'd fit in best. The thing is some of these guys [and I have to also admit I'm among them] just don't think it fits in with Duke's atmosphere.

The original model... yes it is basically a reskin of the pistol. However from what I notice, considering the laser pistol is dropped by Assault Captains, it should probably resemble their gun, and to me, their weapon does look more like the normal pistol than the newer model. o.o

[chicken]

I like it, i also like that 50's-cartoon-Mars-attacks vibe.

[Lukaso]

Finally I know whats the problem with laser pistol.
DeeperThought were right with parameter "xoffset -32". That parameter set shooting from right side of the screen but I wanted line which set position of laserflash. By deleting "xoffset -32" line shooting is ok but flash is still on the right side of screen. You were right but we didnt understand ourselves.
Maybe I wrong formulated my request.

Can you tell me please which line (in DUKEPLUS.CON or other file) is needed to re-write for postitioning laserflash back into the middle of screen?
Im still searching but with no success.


EDIT:

YES !!!! I think I found it !!!

In HUDPLUS.CON needed to change parameters in "state displaylaserpistol":
"setvar digx 180" into 175
"setvar digy 240" into 245
and add parameter "subvar digx 24"

Finally it works fine now.

Anyway, thanks for helping me.