[ReaperMan]

ozz, on May 23 2010, 07:50 AM, said:

As you can see though there's a sheet of plain metal under the plastic so the only way you would see the cans is if the metal sheet was also broken , which it is in the tile... though I still don't know if you would see the cans or what's behind the metal sheet..

Well, from the looks of this Vending machine i don't think you could see past the metal plate on the door. Personally i think it would look better with the cans showing, rather then a metal plate.

[Roma Loom]

yet another svn rape



P.S. This one was modelled a long time ago by my co-worker Dr. Lambert and only now I've got chance to get a textures from it...

[Tea Monster]

Fricking awesome!

I just had this big grin on my face. Brilliant!

[Parkar]

ozz, on May 23 2010, 10:58 AM, said:

Something like this for broken?

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Yea something like that. I would a a thin bright edge to the cracks though.

[Night Wolf]

Thanks guys that should help me out fine!
ill add some cans etc ..

@ ReaperMan ... the metal plate is in the orignal tile thus why im keeping it there but the metal plat is also damaged showing the deep inside (where the cans are etc.) so I can still show them
@ Parkar ... yeah i was thinking of doing something around that area the lines are pretty dark. could maybe even fiddle with transparency ... ill mess with it

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Roma that door look's fk'n Awesome

[Rellik]

The metal plate is actually an inner "door" that helps with insulation. Naturally, the door is usually a made up of an insulating material (fiberglass, I think) layer with a thin metal cover that aids the light box reflection

[Tea Monster]

Parkar - What happened with those tests you were going to be doing with the AO maps?

[Night Wolf]

This looks alot better

[Piterplus]

Yep,
it looks cool.

[Night Wolf]

The metal parts could maybe benefit from a metal texture overlayed ... but we'll see how it looks with normal n spec first , maps might be all that's needed.

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This is the same glow map posted earlier ...exept I've added slight glow to the buttons.
should be fine? ...

[Spiker]

The broken version looks awesome. I feel like smashing some vending machines now

[LeoD]

Don't forget to take a photo for further improvements.

[The Commander]

Has anyone spoken about making a simple projection texture for these lights in E1L1 so that they don't do this when you look at them at an odd angle.

[3D Master]

Do what?

[The Commander]

... I thought it was obvious myself.

This is right


This is wrong

[Night Wolf]

haha it was pretty obvious
That problem was annoying me too.

I wonder if its possible to remove those fake shadows that are there in the levels too?

[Rellik]

ozz, on May 24 2010, 06:41 AM, said:

The metal parts could maybe benefit from a metal texture overlayed ... but we'll see how it looks with normal n spec first , maps might be all that's needed.

Shouldn't here be broken florescent tubes inside the machine? Or are those two broken bar things the tubes?

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This is the same glow map posted earlier ...exept I've added slight glow to the buttons.
should be fine? ...
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Remember the glowmap rules, you shouldn't add anything that isn't in the original texture.

With some clever use of feather, you can simulate a glow effect
Here's my latest effort:


I've since learned some new tricks.

Tools that came in handy in Photoshop when making this:

Feather
Layer via copy
Load Selection...Layer Transparency
And a Brightness/contrast layer over the background for comparison

And the darkened image as a background with the glow map overlayed on top as a proof-of-concept:

[Night Wolf]

heh heh...

I'll leave it with you guys , I just wanted to show the right buttons for the glowmap...
I don't really know the technical side to this stuff

[Plagman]

The Commander, on May 24 2010, 07:50 AM, said:

Has anyone spoken about making a simple projection texture for these lights in E1L1 so that they don't do this when you look at them at an odd angle.

The square shape of these spotlights actually is a projection map already. It stops working because currently projective textures aren't getting applied if the spotlight can't cast a shadow, and looking at the far window causes enough shadows to be in view to exceed your shadowcount. Making projective textures work even if the spotlight doesn't cast a shadow is a fairly simple fix that I have planned.

[The Commander]

Good news.

[Night Wolf]

Reworked #0763



I strongly recommend removing detail textures for it
here's why....

The left is without detail textures ... The right is with detail textures

[Night Wolf]

Ahh shit ... I fk'd up one on the sides is off by a millimetre, which causes tiling problems in game...
barely noticeable but noticeable enough for me to have to fix it

[Night Wolf]

Funnily enough the actual original tile isn't 100% matching on each side ...
making both sides symmetrical fixed one problem then made another one worse.. due to how the game laid out the texture
so in order for it to not be so noticeable in game, one side has to be off tiny bit like the original tile.. which is annoying

so I've made the adjustments.

[Night Wolf]

I was messing with the force shield texture ... as I didn't really see a point why it was high res when it was just blurred anyway.

so I made a more sharp version with an outer glow ... also made the appearance of scan type lines to it..
came out quite interesting... don't know if you guys would be interested though..

[Tea Monster]

That does look interesting.

Anything that doesn't go in the HRP, but looks cool, you could slide DanM's way for the Eternity mod.

[The Commander]

Tea Monster, on May 26 2010, 01:11 AM, said:

Anything that doesn't go in the HRP, but looks cool, you could slide DanM's way for the Eternity mod.

You know thats already released right?

[Spiker]

These lines are not necessary and they are not even close to the original. The thing is that similar effect can be achieved just by scaling a forcefield in mapster like on this pic. So it's up to a mapper if he wants that effect or not.

Edit: if I scaled it more the lines would straight but it was a quickie just to get the idea.

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[Night Wolf]

Spiker, on May 25 2010, 11:26 PM, said:

These lines are not necessary and they are not even close to the original. The thing is that similar effect can be achieved just by scaling a forcefield in mapster like on this pic. So it's up to a mapper if he wants that effect or not.

yeah I know it doesn't come close its just an example... but maybe this could be sutley overlaid or something... maybe using two different textures , though that's probs not possible though..
but the main point I was trying to make was that the force shield should be sharper

at the moment its look pretty much the same as the low res tile .. so what the point

[Night Wolf]

Something like this for example sharper dots with a glow
looks much better...
maybe I could slightly apply those lines ..as its kinda cool how they actually look like they scan as the texture moves down

[Night Wolf]

with a combination of dots and 80% transparent lines gives this sort of effect