[Night Wolf]

Tea Monster, on Jun 29 2010, 09:07 PM, said:

Blender has the ability to create sky boxes. I was going to go ahead and model the buildings of the LA skyline and make a proper realistic looking skybox for e1l1. The joy of that is that you can render it out at any size you like, even 4k.

EDIT: here is an example with a blend file: http://blenderartist...ead.php?t=96131

Thats sounds pretty cool... what can't blender do
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@ Spiker
Look's alot better but the part around the keypad still looks funny, like its got a sheet of plastic wrap over it.
my sujestion would be to just add some cracks to the plastic, maybe something like the boken one I posted, or even the broken cola machine.

Also you could make the broken hole near the keypad, smaller if you look at the original tile its only the colored keypad that has a broken bit, on the top part of it
This would also be easier to replicate rather then making a big hole thet extends the keypad onto the grey plastic.

But thats up to you, but i would consider black cracks, an easy way to do this is to invert a picture of cracked glass, and fiddle with its brigtness/contrast etc. then overlay parts that you want to be shown as cracks.... or you could just find some other form of cracks

[Night Wolf]

Heres a little screenshot of an updated tile of mine...
Im trying to make thing's look as real as possible... added some bump mapping to the gold outline and symbol on the star and completely reworked the texture.
currently the tile is 1024 x 1024 (1.43 mbs)... So I don't know if you guys would be happy with it being that big, though I would advise it. It's dramatically lossy if shrunk

[Spiker]

Ozz, I nominate you for the new HRP leader. Thanks to this we will be sure that every texture will be perfect and as close to reality as possible. And we will have a job to do till the end of our lives since there always will be something to correct or to make better

The tile looks amazing despite its simplicity, but almost 1,5 mb for a single tile is definately too much.

[Master Fibbles]

There are actual pictures of the Earth from space on a NASA affiliated website. I'm not sure what the license restrictions are on the images however.
http://www.nasaimages.org/



EDIT: http://www.nasaimages.org/Terms.html

[Night Wolf]

Spiker, on Jun 30 2010, 03:39 AM, said:

Ozz, I nominate you for the new HRP leader. Thanks to this we will be sure that every texture will be perfect and as close to reality as possible. And we will have a job to do till the end of our lives since there always will be something to correct or to make better

The tile looks amazing despite its simplicity, but almost 1,5 mb for a single tile is definately too much.

Haha no thanks sounds like too much pressure..

I managed to compress the texture and reduce the Mbs to 775 kbs 1024x1024 , quite a big drop and doesnt appear to be any loss in quality.

[Spiker]

Edited out

[BuddhaMaster]

While sight-seeing and saving some screenshots, I figured something interesting:
The earth is actually lighted from the left, not right.
Is this a error, or is the original skybox actually mirrored on this map (Lunar Apocalypse)?



I also learned about creating realistic looking craters now.

@ozz
So can you hand me the fullsize moon skybox? Did you render that? Thats pretty awesome.

@Spiker, I like that computer screen, plenty of destruction going on. Metal looks like metal to me Refering to the one with the big hole., I wish I could do that.

btw: whats the menu font number?: Originally it looks almost crumpled paper with a self-illuminating neon style glow around the edges, red colors only, no white specks, much thicker border. Instead of that polished metal look of the hires

[Master Fibbles]

You know, if you can see the Earth lit up from the moon, shouldn't the moon be dark? OH NOZE! DEY DIDN'T LAND ON TEH MOON!!!

[NightFright]

Spiker:
This version is much better than the previous ones, especially the part with the damaged keypad. ^^

[Spiker]

Thanks, good to know, because I was already getting confused what approach to take.

I'm tired of this texure. Wanted to try my hand at some model after it is done. Shotgun maybe ?

[Night Wolf]

@ Spiker.
Not exactly what i ment by cracks , but it looks way better anyway, so lets put it to rest lol done
It's good to get an opinion other then mine ... im a bit of a perfection nazi.
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Anyway

Heres the revised 0823 & maps
I converted 0823 & 0823_s to index colour to save Mbs (Im asuming that wont cuse problems with the engine?)

0823
http://i1025.photobu...oid333/0823.png

0823_n
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y319/z...d333/0823_n.png

0823_s
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y319/z...d333/0823_s.png

[Tetsuo]

Ozz you never cease to amaze and seem to be outdoing yourself with each texture you do! You can definitely count me as a fan!

[Plagman]

When you add polymer-ready replacements, make sure to also provide the proper specular material definitions (power/factor). Here the diffuse map should also have the _d suffix as I don't think it's meant to replace the existing texture in Polymost.

[Roma Loom]

ozz, on Jun 30 2010, 12:10 AM, said:

I converted 0823 & 0823_s to index colour to save Mbs (Im asuming that wont cuse problems with the engine?)

Dunno how for specmaps (I personally save them as 8bit to save some upload traffic, disc space e.t.c. and the quality won't suffer at all) but the engine converts 8bit textures back to 24/32 bit before feeding them to OpenGL texture loading routines iirc... so we don't win anything that way plus there may some gradient or color detail loss happen after 24/32->8 bit oconversion...

Also regarding specmap for 823: marble plates are more shiny than the seams between them, so the seams should be darker than marble...

[Night Wolf]

@ Plagman
hmm yeah i forgot about that, ill do that in the future ... also just like to add that the current .Defs are fine with this tile

Roma Loom, on Jun 30 2010, 08:31 AM, said:

Dunno how for specmaps (I personally save them as 8bit to save some upload traffic, disc space e.t.c. and the quality won't suffer at all) but the engine converts 8bit textures back to 24/32 bit before feeding them to OpenGL texture loading routines iirc... so we don't win anything that way plus there may some gradient or color detail loss happen after 24/32->8 bit oconversion...

Also regarding specmap for 823: marble plates are more shiny than the seams between them, so the seams should be darker than marble...

So is saving 0823(the coloured file) as index a bad idea? I couldnt see any loss in quality in the file itself , not sure about in game.

yeah im still not really good at making spec maps , ideally it would be great if the marble parts were really shiny like gloss, not sure how that would be possible

Roma if you want to give the spec map a go be my guest, you seem to be a pro at this stuff.

[Cage]

Nfelli64, on Jun 25 2010, 06:11 AM, said:

compare.png
The color is completly off, and it looks nothing like the original. Anyone working on this? Cause I might be able to take a shot at it...

I've started to think about it since I'm playing around sculpting programs latetly and that one might be a good exercise Plus I think that making it in 3d is necessary, since it looks like it would work best as a normal/ heavily parallaxed texture

[NF64]

Cage, on Jun 30 2010, 04:56 AM, said:

I've started to think about it since I'm playing around sculpting programs latetly and that one might be a good exercise Plus I think that making it in 3d is necessary, since it looks like it would work best as a normal/ heavily parallaxed texture

Go for it, You could probably do it alot better than me.

[Night Wolf]

@ BuddhaMaster

Sorry I think you misunderstood what i meant by moon... not the moon surface skybox ... I just increased the size & added a new moon and distant sun to 0084_bigorbit_back nothing special
But theres probs no use for me to post it since i've upscaled the star background and added higher resolution pictures of a moon and drew in bright star, which means that the stars in the background won't be high res
The whole 0084_bigorbit skyboxes should be remade in a bigger resolution IMO, not sure what resolution though.

[NightFright]

 ozz, on Jun 29 2010, 11:10 PM, said:

@ Spiker.
Not exactly what i ment by cracks , but it looks way better anyway, so lets put it to rest lol done
It's good to get an opinion other then mine ... im a bit of a perfection nazi.
.........

Anyway

Heres the revised 0823 & maps
I converted 0823 & 0823_s to index colour to save Mbs (Im asuming that wont cuse problems with the engine?)

0823
http://i1025.photobu...oid333/0823.png

0823_n
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y319/z...d333/0823_n.png

0823_s
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y319/z...d333/0823_s.png

These can be used with existing defs or will there be need of adjustments?

[BuddhaMaster]

@ ozz

I don't think I can do such a good render of a moon landscape.
This texture really impressed me, there's just some things needing a fix

Who made that render of the moon surface?
Besides the mysterious secret of the stone pebbles, that make the picture really look like moon surface, Terragen (1) could do it

[Master Fibbles]

It should look something like this:

NASA Images

[Fox]

Ozz, you did a very good texture there.

But there is something I would change, to make it looks closer to the original... well, I edited it to give you an idea: http://img180.images...68/texture2.png (compare to yours)

[Night Wolf]

 Fox, on Jul 1 2010, 11:39 AM, said:

Ozz, you did a very good texture there.

But there is something I would change, to make it looks closer to the original... well, I edited it to give you an idea: http://img180.images...68/texture2.png (compare to yours)

Actually fox I already did that, its just on about 15% transparency or something ... if you make it to dark it looks odd because it so repeated as a tile

this tile is a strange one, it took me a long time to get it to look right in game, I could maybe crank up the shadows around the edges a tiny bit but too much looks odd , pretty much looks unrealistic
The one you posted makes it look exactly like theres a shadow on the sides looks to photoshoped...

EDIT:
Ok I incresed the shadowing around the edges a bit ...
it actually does loook better with a slight increase


Thanks for pointing that out

[Night Wolf]

 NightFright, on Jul 1 2010, 06:28 AM, said:

These can be used with existing defs or will there be need of adjustments?

Im pretty sure the current Defs are fine , thats what im using it with

[Spiker]

Nightfright: Here is a small pack for you to upload. Tested in game.

http://www.mediafire.com/?tenykhmn4w1

[Cage]

What's the syntax for defining spec maps? I'm trying:

specular { file "blah/blah.blah"}

And my tile looks like the one without spec map applied.

Attached another revision of my old 4112

Attached thumbnail(s)

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[Spiker]

 Cage, on Jul 1 2010, 05:20 PM, said:

What's the syntax for defining spec maps? I'm trying:

specular { file "blah/blah.blah"}

Try adding space here "-}

[Cage]

Works wonders, thanks a lot

Here's spec then:

Attached thumbnail(s)

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[Night Wolf]

 BuddhaMaster, on Jul 1 2010, 08:50 AM, said:

@ ozz

I don't think I can do such a good render of a moon landscape.
This texture really impressed me, there's just some things needing a fix

Who made that render of the moon surface?
Besides the mysterious secret of the stone pebbles, that make the picture really look like moon surface, Terragen (1) could do it

Im no expert on skyboxes, but I have a feeling you would need some program to make them, as they have to match up seamlessly.
it would be cool if we could make the moon surface look exactly like the original duke art

[Tea Monster]

BuddhaMaster suggested Terragen, which should work.

2 options - create your moonscape in terragen and render directly.
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Sk...)_with_Terragen

or export your terragen file to Blender
http://www.movingfro...nder/Ter2Blend/
(I'm sure there is a max script somewhere) and render from there.

Someone has done something similar with the asteroid Eros
http://home.tiscali..../eros/eros.html

In fact, they are talking about it here:
http://forums.planet...php?topic=707.0