[NightFright]

TerminX, on 01 May 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

I fixed the grpinfo problem I think. Sorry about that, guys!

Confirmed, works for me now (r3723). Thumbs up!

[Dr. Kylstein]

 Trooper Dan, on 01 May 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:

Oh wow, that's a big deal. Now we can have +X% accuracy bonuses on hitscan weapons

Thanks, Helix!

EDIT: Is there now a way to prevent the pistol from auto-hitting any enemy under the crosshair?

Is my CON solution not what you're looking for?

[Skulldog]

 TerminX, on 01 May 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

I fixed the grpinfo problem I think. Sorry about that, guys!

Still can't add more than 5 GRP's. in the listbox.

[TerminX]

Screenshot? Maybe you're getting hit by the issue where we're not really compliant with Windows running at a higher than normal DPI and the scrollbar on the listbox is just being cut off.

[NightFright]

It shouldn't matter how many groups you have added. For example, my config runs fine like this:

Spoiler

grpinfo
{
    name "DaikariN"
    scriptname "dargame.con"
    defname "duke3d.def"
    size 6731821
    dependency DUKE15_CRC
    flags GAMEFLAG_ADDON
    crc 1216200935
}

grpinfo
{
    name "Last Reaction & Water Bases"
    scriptname "lr&wb.con"
    defname "duke3d.def"
    size 21934996
    dependency DUKE15_CRC
    flags GAMEFLAG_ADDON
    crc 1562092044
}

grpinfo
{
    name "Metropolitan Mayhem"
    scriptname "metromay.con"
    defname "duke3d.def"
    size 2202384
    dependency DUKE15_CRC
    flags GAMEFLAG_ADDON
    crc -1803161898
}

grpinfo
{
    name "MSSP Episode"
    scriptname "msgame3.con"
    defname "duke3d.def"
    size 3604719
    dependency DUKE15_CRC
    flags GAMEFLAG_ADDON
    crc -1961640729
}

grpinfo
{
    name "New York Rebellion & Orbital Oblivion"
    scriptname "fm2xuser.con"
    defname "duke3d.def"
    size 6682730
    dependency DUKE15_CRC
    flags GAMEFLAG_ADDON
    crc -527950080
}

grpinfo
{
    name "Roch Series"
    scriptname "rochuser.con"
    defname "duke3d.def"
    size 3485506
    dependency DUKE15_CRC
    flags GAMEFLAG_ADDON
    crc 429439540
}

grpinfo
{
    name "The Final Confrontation"
    scriptname "tfcu.con"
    defname "duke3d.def"
    size 3096112
    dependency DUKE15_CRC
    flags GAMEFLAG_ADDON
    crc -475409833
}

grpinfo
{
    name "WGSpace Episode"
    scriptname "wguser.con"
    defname "duke3d.def"
    size 5550580
    dependency DUKE15_CRC
    flags GAMEFLAG_ADDON
    crc 1949330144
}

As you can see, I have currently added 8 groupfiles. My guess is that at least one of the files you use might be corrupt or still doesn't work with EDuke32 for some reason.
(BTW don't be surprised if some of the CRC values don't match the files you can download since I have edited some of them, mostly to include required con files to provide "all-in-one" solutions.)

[Fox]

Why everybody calls it "Last Reaction & Water Bases" instead of "Duke Nukem 3D: Aquatic"?

[Mikko]

 Fox, on 01 May 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

Why everybody calls it "Last Reaction & Water Bases" instead of "Duke Nukem 3D: Aquatic"?

Because no one calls it Aquatic. Even Dukeworld advertised it as LR&WB when it was released.

[Skulldog]

That works. I was using a separate grpinfo file for each grp file.

[NightFright]

 Skulldog, on 02 May 2013 - 05:52 AM, said:

That works. I was using a separate grpinfo file for each grp file.

Omg xD It's really not required, pal. One file for all will do fine.

In general, this feature is really great, it makes addon setups a lot easier, you don't even have to put groupfiles into separate folders any more.

[Skulldog]

 NightFright, on 02 May 2013 - 05:54 AM, said:

Omg xD It's really not required, pal. One file for all will do fine.

In general, this feature is really great, it makes addon setups a lot easier, you don't even have to put groupfiles into separate folders any more.

So can all the group files go in one folder, other than running along side eduke32.exe?

[NightFright]

Errrr... I think that won't work. At least it didn't for me, I put some groups into a subdir with the groupinfo file, EDuke32 won't find it (even if you select it as "custom content" dir in the launcher). Both the info file and the addon grps apparently have to be in the same dir as duke3d.grp and eduke32.exe. At least that's what I know so far.

[Skulldog]

Yea, I tried a folder called addon. Still it just keeps getting better and better.

[Mateos]

Good evening,

Could there be a button/menu to create automatically the script lines, like you browse/drag'n'drop files on it and it auto-generate code, and save them?

Or will the TCs/Mods be bundled with these codes through the repositories from now on?

[NightFright]

Well, for now I can provide you with some kinda "starter bundle". It is a bunch of groupfiles I am using by myself right now. Many groupfiles have been edited to include external con files (or to group them together in general since they had been a bunch of lose files before, e.g. "The Final Confrontation" or the "Roch Series") so that your installation folder doesn't get too bloated.

EDuke32 Grpinfo Addon Pack (58 MB)
MD5: D7FACE95D975D523DF08AFC72E3026C5

Included are the following addons:
- DaikariN
- Infinity: Secrets of the Acropolis
- Last Reaction & Water Bases
- Metropolitan Mayhem
- MSSP3 Episode
- New York Rebellion & Orbital Oblivion (FM2X)
- Pray Your Prayers
- Roch Series
- Starship Troopers TC (EDuke32 release)
- The Final Confrontation
- The Gate
- The Lost Duke Episodes
- Vermin Clearance (2010 re-release)
- WGSpace Episode

Just unzip this into your EDuke32 dir, that's already it. Should keep you busy for a while, btw.

[Credit goes to the creators of these awesome addons/TCs, of course. Right now there is no readme included, it's rather meant for testing purposes, to get started with building up your own collection - and to see how the grpinfo thing works maybe.]

[Fox]

Since now Eduke32 accept CON mutators, wouldn't it be better to remove all of the custom content from it (Polymer lights, alternate HUD, menu background, etc) and include them as default CON files? I don't know why is it necessary to have it hard-coded, as far my beliefs go hard-coding only makes it worse since it prevents modding.

[Helixhorned]

NightFright, on 03 May 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

For some reason, "The Final Confrontation" won't work right now. It spits out some con errors, even though I have included the Atomic con in the groupfile and renamed all files within properly before grouping them. (...)

Errors from eduke32.log:

Compiling: user.con (45509 bytes)
(...)

Well, of course including USER.CON as root CON file won't work -- TFC's one is only slightly tweaked, it doesn't include the others. Use GAME.CON instead. When looking up USER.CON, EDuke32 should hopefully use the overridden one. (I haven't tested TX's grpfile info system though since I usually compile my EDuke32 bare, i.e. without any startup window.)

[Radar]

NightFright, could you by any chance reupload that zip file? I'm getting a bunch of corruption messages with WinRAR. You got some cool classic mods in a nice bundle that I've always wanted to play without the hassle of messing with 7+ year old installation files.

[NightFright]

Helixhorned, on 04 May 2013 - 04:40 AM, said:

Well, of course including USER.CON as root CON file won't work -- TFC's one is only slightly tweaked, it doesn't include the others. Use GAME.CON instead. When looking up USER.CON, EDuke32 should hopefully use the overridden one. (I haven't tested TX's grpfile info system though since I usually compile my EDuke32 bare, i.e. without any startup window.)

Ah, crap. Then I did this wrong for more addons than just this one. I have reuploaded the pack above, also fixed "New York Rebellion", "Roch" and "WGSpace". Now everything should work as intended. Thanks for the hint!

If you have tried to download just recently, you might end up with a corrupt file since I have reuploaded it several times. Not everything would have loaded properly until now, anyway, so you haven't missed anything. I have now updated the pack one last time with fully working grpinfo file, it should be save to get it now without any issues. To be on the safe side, I have added the MD5 checksum so you can see if you have the right file.

For me, this is one of the best EDuke32 features which have been added recently. Finally, I can get rid of the PlayDuke launcher (even though it's still a good tool), and with very little effort, you can turn EDuke32 into a launching platform for all your favorite Duke3D mods by simply selecting them from the startup screen. I'm totally diggin' it.

[Fox]

Fox, on 03 May 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

Since now Eduke32 accept CON mutators, wouldn't it be better to remove all of the custom content from it (Polymer lights, alternate HUD, menu background, etc) and include them as default CON files? I don't know why is it necessary to have it hard-coded, as far my beliefs go hard-coding only makes it worse since it prevents modding.

So I am already working in CON-based Polymer lights. First I load a CON that erase the default lights, and secondly a custom one with my custom lights.

No offense, but the hard-coded lights sucks, I can do much better with CON.

[necroslut]

Fox, on 05 May 2013 - 01:35 AM, said:

So I am already working in CON-based Polymer lights. First I load a CON that erase the default lights, and secondly a custom one with my custom lights.

No offense, but the hard-coded lights sucks, I can do much better with CON.

They really do, there should be an option to disable them...

[Fox]

Smoothness:

[Micky C]

It looks like the polymer light is spawned on the floor. It would look better and more realistic if you shifted it up so it was more in the centre of the explosion.

Edit: When's that hardcoded thing where enemies with pals have double health going to be fixed? It's making usermaps a lot more challenging and I don't think most of the authors had this feature in mind. Just the other day it took me 4 shotgun shots to kill a pigcop at relatively close range...

[Mark]

The glow would probably look the same except he is firing in the center of the screen in the first shot and at the floor in the second.

[Fox]

Here is my WIP for the CON based Polymer lights.

There are some limitations in CON, i.e. tspr is unavaiable for an SE sprite, so I could't include a light for the Shrinker crystal ammo. Also the Expander projectile doesn't work like others, so I could't code it properly.

Attached File(s)

•  polymerconlights1.zip (2.54K)
  Number of downloads: 720

[NNC]

NightFright, on 03 May 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Well, for now I can provide you with some kinda "starter bundle". It is a bunch of groupfiles I am using by myself right now. Many groupfiles have been edited to include external con files (or to group them together in general since they had been a bunch of lose files before, e.g. "The Final Confrontation" or the "Roch Series") so that your installation folder doesn't get too bloated.

EDuke32 Grpinfo Addon Pack (58 MB)
MD5: D7FACE95D975D523DF08AFC72E3026C5

Included are the following addons:
- DaikariN
- Infinity: Secrets of the Acropolis
- Last Reaction & Water Bases
- Metropolitan Mayhem
- MSSP3 Episode
- New York Rebellion & Orbital Oblivion (FM2X)
- Pray Your Prayers
- Roch Series
- Starship Troopers TC (EDuke32 release)
- The Final Confrontation
- The Gate
- The Lost Duke Episodes
- Vermin Clearance (2010 re-release)
- WGSpace Episode

Just unzip this into your EDuke32 dir, that's already it. Should keep you busy for a while, btw.

[Credit goes to the creators of these awesome addons/TCs, of course. Right now there is no readme included, it's rather meant for testing purposes, to get started with building up your own collection - and to see how the grpinfo thing works maybe.]

Recommended additions:

The Lost Highway
ADG Episode
Duke Tournament (Mikko's old map pack, I actually prefer it to his MSSP episode)
Brave New World (Mikko's new map pack)
JJ Duke Nukem 3D (the 1st episode is garbage, but the 3rd is awesome)

[Radar]

Another Duker I know is having an issue with EDuke32 finding and selecting his installed megaton grp regardless of the grp file he puts in his EDuke32 folder. Guys know anything about this?

[LeoD]

Micky C, on 05 May 2013 - 04:14 AM, said:

Edit: When's that hardcoded thing where enemies with pals have double health going to be fixed? It's making usermaps a lot more challenging and I don't think most of the authors had this feature in mind. Just the other day it took me 4 shotgun shots to kill a pigcop at relatively close range...

This has to be reverted indeed. Fighting those pig cops at the beginning with only a pistol is hard to survive in certain maps.

Radar, on 06 May 2013 - 07:22 AM, said:

Another Duker I know is having an issue with EDuke32 finding and selecting his installed megaton grp regardless of the grp file he puts in his EDuke32 folder. Guys know anything about this?

The usual answer includes updating EDuke32 and posting the log.

[Helixhorned]

Trooper Dan, on 01 May 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:

EDIT: Is there now a way to prevent the pistol from auto-hitting any enemy under the crosshair?

I think it should be possible by defining SHOTSPARK1 as an appropriate projectile. That tile leads a double life -- it is used as the 'shoots' member for a pistol, but also as general hitscan damage actor. Which settings to use could probably be figured out by comparing the hard-coded and custom projectile code in player.c:A_ShootWithZvel().

[Radar]

LeoD, on 06 May 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

The usual answer includes updating EDuke32 and posting the log.

The usual answer involves not trying to be a smart-a and realizing that I've been in the Duke community long enough to know standard procedure to posting about EDuke32 errors, and simply not answering if you aren't going to help. I don't have the guy's log and I told him to try updating. I'm sure the problem is something he just overlooked, which is why I through it out as a general question rather than an all-out bug analysis/report.

[Hendricks266]

The usual answer involves posting the log because that allows us to see what common problems the user is overlooking without us wasting time taking shots in the dark.