[NightFright]

You will have fun with the new version, then. Mere_Duke supposedly fixed all problems, already some while ago. I hope he is still around, I might need him for more consultations.

[NightFright]

So, since it will obviously take ages to get enough testers the way I intended, I decided to do this differently.

I will now provide full access to the most recent development branch of the upcoming version 4.0 as it resides on my hard drive at this very moment. Please test anything you want with latest working EDuke32 snapshot (r9257 as of now). In most cases, I have not done anything that goes beyond checking whether the addons show up in the launcher or whether they load in general (without errors).

To make this work, you will have to do the following:
1) Download the base pack (zip, 11.9 MB) and unzip it into your EDuke32 dir.
2) Download any addon you want from this repository and place any downloaded file into your "addons" subdir.
3) Run the compilation with addons.bat (Atomic) or addons_wt.bat (World Tour).

For a detailed changelog and more info about the addons in general, please consult the included addons_readme.txt (in addons/readme subdir) which is up-to-date.

KNOWN ISSUE:
All user map packs (Bolduc Pack, C3PO Pack, Cerovsky Pack, Glavic Pack, Kucera Pack, Pinxten Pack, Quakis Pack, Ruohonen Pack, Space Map Pack, Spiegul Contest, Stranger Pack, Taivo Pack, Urban Map Pack) either don't work as intended or not at all due to the lack of a properly implemented usermaps feature.

IMPORTANT:
Please refrain from requesting any additional addon to be added at this point. The only purpose of this pre-release is to find problems either with the included addons or EDuke32 code.

Code-intense addons which should receive more testing:
Borg Nukem
Chimera
Fusion Redux 2018 (received a lot of fixes)
Grins of Divinity
Infestation in Time
Merc 1+2
Oblivion (that one's gonna hurt for sure)
Platoon
Quest for Al-Qa'eda
Quest for Hussein
Starship Troopers TC (this one was pretty broken)
The Gate (especially the final boss map which was considerably fixed)
WGR2: Knee Deep (includes the outdated Siege Breaker, so it's likely there will be some issues)
WGR2: Demon Throne (well, it should work, it's brand-new)

I don't want to exclude that other addons can show issues in specific maps as well since EDuke32 tends to break some functions over time, so feel free to check any other addon as thoroughly as you can as well.

[ETPC]

I will test out The Gate tonight

[NightFright]

Outstanding. The goal btw is to have everything ready by mid January 2021, so a release at the end of that month is possible.

Primary renderers for testing should be Classic or Polymost (unless explicitly stated otherwise in the readme). I am done with Polymer.

[ETPC]

testing with polymost and the latest eduke32 snapshot. just completed episode 1 on CGS! nothing aside from some minor visual bugs (a small HOM here or there) on e1l3, l4 and l7. also noticing that the weird new slug monsters are hard to hit unless they are right in front of me. onto episode 2!

[NightFright]

Smaller visual glitches are OK. What matters more would be stuff like switches that don't work, doors not opening, scripts not triggering, enemies not dying, crashes or any other kinds of showstoppers.The Gate received an important fix in the end that would make it impossible to destroy the brains that would weaken the boss. You still need to avoid that the boss follows you through one of the gateways, though. There is little we were able to do about that.

[ETPC]

the anti-gravity pad.......i'm not sure *how* it's supposed to work in e3l6 but i managed to just jetpack through it. i'll do episode 4 tommorow!

[ETPC]

and that's episode 4 done! zero issues with the boss, brains all worked as they should (ie. they blew up). i can say in good faith that the gate is 100% ready and encountered zero issues other then small visual bugs here and there. no scripting issues, no crashes.

[Aleks]

NightFright, on 19 October 2020 - 09:30 PM, said:

You still need to avoid that the boss follows you through one of the gateways, though. There is little we were able to do about that.

I have never considered that a bug, but rather a challenge in The Gate - that you had to outmaneuver the boss while he's invincible, so he doesn't follow you into one of the teleporters and make your way much harder this way. On the other hand, one could also use this to his advantage to trap the boss and have easier way around.

[ETPC]

Gonna test out the SST TC over the weekend

[ETPC]

Apologies for double post, but I ran through all of the TC + bonus levels and only encountered one missing ART tile in Before The Storm (in the comm room) that was crucial to the level. Otherwise, it worked perfectly fine! Zero crashes, all the levels worked (though I never once got the hang of the ladders).

[Jimmy]

EDuke32 has different collision than the original game. SST probably uses an exploit of the original behaviour to create ladders. I'd recommend using RedNukem to play larger more advanced old mods like SST and Grins of Divinity.

[NightFright]

Maybe something like compatibility settings should be considered to be added to EDuke32 so that mods explicitly requiring such behavior would work without having to adjust anything.

[Jimmy]

Sounds like bloat and potential for more issues. RedNukem is fine.

[NightFright]

Well, if anybody wants to test all of this on other ports, feel free to do so, but EDuke32 will remain the target port one way or the other. Rednukem and EDuke32 should be close enough to each other code-wise to not require large adjustments (I guess).

[ETPC]

honestly, i remember the ladders being annoying as hell back in 2000 so i won't sweat it

also god im old

oh, i just ran through the ADG episode! zero problems whatsoever, again!

[ETPC]

ran through Crucial Conflict, zero issues!

[NightFright]

That one has practically zero custom code. I would have been surprised if it didn't work properly.

[ETPC]

hey, you never know, right? plus it was only around an hour long, so didn't take much time at all.

[ETPC]

ran through borg nukem, did both episodes. zero issues again!

[NightFright]

Good, that one was an entry from the list. Keep going, sadly it seems you are the only one actually doing something right now.

[ETPC]

hey, i bugged you enough over the past year and change, it wouldn't be right to wait for someone else to do everything!

[comorbidity]

Jimmy, on 01 November 2020 - 11:51 PM, said:

EDuke32 has different collision than the original game. SST probably uses an exploit of the original behaviour to create ladders. I'd recommend using RedNukem to play larger more advanced old mods like SST and Grins of Divinity.

EDuke32 r9275-6256d4bf7:

Grins of Divinity's ladders aren't functional
Infestation in Time and Starship Trooper's ladders are working

[NightFright]

Does it work with Rednukem?

Anyway, this would be something I wouldn't fix through map updates. The port needs to make it work properly.

[Doom64hunter]

comorbidity, on 11 November 2020 - 01:10 PM, said:

EDuke32 r9275-6256d4bf7:

Grins of Divinity's ladders aren't functional
Infestation in Time and Starship Trooper's ladders are working

See: https://voidpoint.io...e32/-/issues/68

[comorbidity]

NightFright, on 11 November 2020 - 01:25 PM, said:

Does it work with Rednukem?Anyway, this would be something I wouldn't fix through map updates. The port needs to make it work properly.

Doom64hunter, on 11 November 2020 - 02:18 PM, said:

See: https://voidpoint.io...e32/-/issues/68

I've yet to test it with that fork of eDuke32. I can confirm the same behavior in Raze (0.6.0-573-g57ad04803) which obviously forked at a later point.

Just surprised that the other TCs exploited similar functions in the engine and were working.

Anyways, I'll report back if I find anything 'funny' with the new set of addons.

[NightFright]

With kind permission of Preto Murara, I have added "Downtown Journey" (even though I didn't want to add anything at this point, but it was really easy).

Update your EAC build as follows:
- Get the updated base pack (12 MB).
- Get "downtown.grp" (0.4 MB) from the repository.

For the record, here is a short overview what has been tested so far (OK / Bug / Showstopper):
- ADG Episode
- Borg Nukem
- Crucial Conflict
- Grins of Divinity (ladders not working - EDuke32 issue)
- Starship Troopers TC
- The Gate

[comorbidity]

Seems like every addon I've tried thus far with the Rednukem port have had CON compilation issues.

Rednukem r11972-c905e4cd7
Built Nov 12 2020 17:57:50, GCC 10.2.1, 64-bit

[NightFright]

I never tried to run any addon with Rednukem. Not sure if it's even possible to make them compatible. If the port is lacking code portions from EDuke32, it's never going to work.

[comorbidity]

Aye. Just throwing that out there. :)