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Dunno about positioning, but the ZMBV encoding I linked in the description is lossless iirc.
Duke3D & SW - Early/Alpha/Beta/Gold Material
#1712 Posted 05 July 2016 - 10:18 AM
I still really wish at the very least, the MIDI tracks from that demo could get released. I would love to hear the full version of Plasma used in that, it has a darker ROTT sound to it.
#1714 Posted 05 July 2016 - 01:09 PM
Lee Jackson already released those others. Perhaps he could share those as well?
#1715 Posted 05 July 2016 - 01:48 PM
With the trend of most of the weapons having an alt-fire mode, I'd guess that the Freezethrower was originally planned to be the alt-fire to the Flamethrower (similar to the Shrinker's altfire being the Expander), but it was made the primary when altfires were scrapped.
And if I had to make a wild guess, I'd speculate that the RPG's altfire was a Grenade launcher.
And if I had to make a wild guess, I'd speculate that the RPG's altfire was a Grenade launcher.
#1716 Posted 05 July 2016 - 02:08 PM
TerminX, on 30 June 2016 - 08:23 PM, said:
This was hidden in this thread, but I don't think anybody ever found it.
#1717 Posted 05 July 2016 - 02:24 PM
I think everyone would like to play it. 
I still like the original idea and design of the plasma gun and the larger RPG. LameDuke probably has the art assets to recreate that plasma gun, the HUD sprite and the pickup sprite and the projectile and impact sprites and all that. Then it would just be a matter of programming it to act like the original.
Interesting that Duke originally had a jump sound... Blood still has one, but it's quieter than the first one they were using.
I still like the original idea and design of the plasma gun and the larger RPG. LameDuke probably has the art assets to recreate that plasma gun, the HUD sprite and the pickup sprite and the projectile and impact sprites and all that. Then it would just be a matter of programming it to act like the original.
Interesting that Duke originally had a jump sound... Blood still has one, but it's quieter than the first one they were using.
This post has been edited by deuxsonic: 05 July 2016 - 02:26 PM
#1718 Posted 05 July 2016 - 03:05 PM
deuxsonic, on 05 July 2016 - 01:09 PM, said:
Lee Jackson already released those others. Perhaps he could share those as well?
He did? Where can they be found if you do not mind me asking?
#1720 Posted 05 July 2016 - 04:35 PM
Quick, dirty recordings with a shitty Sound Canvas; https://www.mediafir...yptaweqn68r3m88
Sorry, I'm limited to recording with a PAS16 at the moment, so this is the best I can do. Even if I could do better I wouldn't put myself out over it given half of you would just ignore it and wait for someone else to do the exact same thing, these are only here as I was uploading them for someone else anyway.
Super Fnord is my favorite, but the beginning doesn't play right, seems to bombard my SC with a few too many FX events, it actually causes the host Pentium (66MHz) to slow down a little there too.
Sorry, I'm limited to recording with a PAS16 at the moment, so this is the best I can do. Even if I could do better I wouldn't put myself out over it given half of you would just ignore it and wait for someone else to do the exact same thing, these are only here as I was uploading them for someone else anyway.
Super Fnord is my favorite, but the beginning doesn't play right, seems to bombard my SC with a few too many FX events, it actually causes the host Pentium (66MHz) to slow down a little there too.
#1721 Posted 05 July 2016 - 05:33 PM
Great stuff, still awaiting the day to have early Gotham and Plasma, whenever that may be if it ever happens. Thanks Gearbox.
#1724 Posted 06 July 2016 - 06:39 PM
Itsgreen.mid being the song played on the demo that involves running around on the skyscraper rooftops?
#1725 Posted 06 July 2016 - 08:12 PM
While we're on the subject of Lee's midis, is there a chance the unreleased Wendt - Doug Wendt ROTT track could see a release in its original midi format? As far as I know, there aren't any legal quagmires surrounding ROTT, the track has already seen a public release in one form, and I presume the midi was available for this purpose at the time.
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#1726 Posted 06 July 2016 - 08:19 PM
I don't have it. The data Fred sent us focused on Duke 3D and SW, true to this thread's title. I can think of a handful of examples of data cross-pollination from other games (for example, a higher res source image of the Stargunner title screen) but beyond those I only have the packaged beta testing builds from Joe Siegler's CD.
It's a conversation I'd like to reopen at some point.
It's a conversation I'd like to reopen at some point.
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#1727 Posted 06 July 2016 - 08:43 PM
Somebody send me the SW betas.. I'm tired of waiting and I obviously love the shit out of Shadow Warrior
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#1729 Posted 06 July 2016 - 10:49 PM
Did ROTT have a different soundtrack when it was a sequel to Wolf 3d?
#1730 Posted 06 July 2016 - 11:16 PM
RobMan, on 06 July 2016 - 08:43 PM, said:
Somebody send me the SW betas.. I'm tired of waiting and I obviously love the shit out of Shadow Warrior
I offered somebody a "Shadow Warrior beta" once, which was just a gutted Wolf3D demo with faked screenshots made with SW beta assets and ECWolf, in exchange for a Serious Sam alpha they supposedly had.
Hilariously, the Serious Sam alpha actually turned out to be legitimate.
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#1731 Posted 06 July 2016 - 11:34 PM
gerolf, on 06 July 2016 - 10:49 PM, said:
Did ROTT have a different soundtrack when it was a sequel to Wolf 3d?
The only soundtrack that existed for it is Lee's.
TheZombieKiller, on 06 July 2016 - 11:16 PM, said:
I offered somebody a "Shadow Warrior beta" once, which was just a gutted Wolf3D demo with faked screenshots made with SW beta assets and ECWolf, in exchange for a Serious Sam alpha they supposedly had.
Hilariously, the Serious Sam alpha actually turned out to be legitimate.
Hilariously, the Serious Sam alpha actually turned out to be legitimate.
"somebody"
#1733 Posted 06 July 2016 - 11:44 PM
Hendricks266, on 06 July 2016 - 11:34 PM, said:
"somebody"
I think you're the only person on this forum who actually knows who it was
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#1734 Posted 06 July 2016 - 11:46 PM
gerolf, on 06 July 2016 - 11:37 PM, said:
Does that version number have any true meaning to it?
Not that I know of.
TheZombieKiller, on 06 July 2016 - 11:44 PM, said:
I think you're the only person on this forum who actually knows who it was
>obsessed with Shadow Warrior betas
>leaked a Serious Sam alpha
They betta know who it is.
#1735 Posted 07 July 2016 - 03:17 AM
Hendricks266, on 06 July 2016 - 08:50 PM, said:
That's an awesome track!
BTW, I think you guys mentioned that the build of ROTT with female versions of certain guards was still available somewhere. IIRC this feature was dropped from the game because it could not be optimized to work on 4 meg machines or something. I suppose that such constraints no longer apply these days, so theoretically a new build of the game with alternate guards could be created?
On a completely different (but still related) note, did you come across any of the promotional materials like official vendor screenshots for Apogee/3DR games (like the ones mentioned here)? Many of them were converted to JPEG in some not very good quality (like with Duke Nukem or Commander Keen IV). I wonder if the original PCX or GIF images still exist somewhere? I'm particularly interested in screenshots from Planet Strike, Keen: Oracle, Death Rally, Secret Agent and Rise of the Triad/Extreme ROTT.
#1736 Posted 07 July 2016 - 04:34 AM
The MIDI tracks are pretty catchy, my favorite is DARKMATT.mid.
On one hand, I wanna tell you it's bad to trick people like that, but on the other hand, it's pretty hilarious.
TheZombieKiller, on 06 July 2016 - 11:16 PM, said:
I offered somebody a "Shadow Warrior beta" once, which was just a gutted Wolf3D demo with faked screenshots made with SW beta assets and ECWolf, in exchange for a Serious Sam alpha they supposedly had.
Hilariously, the Serious Sam alpha actually turned out to be legitimate.
Hilariously, the Serious Sam alpha actually turned out to be legitimate.
On one hand, I wanna tell you it's bad to trick people like that, but on the other hand, it's pretty hilarious.
#1737 Posted 07 July 2016 - 05:58 AM
MrFlibble, on 07 July 2016 - 03:17 AM, said:
That's an awesome track!
BTW, I think you guys mentioned that the build of ROTT with female versions of certain guards was still available somewhere....
BTW, I think you guys mentioned that the build of ROTT with female versions of certain guards was still available somewhere....
That's really interesting if true, I've only ever seen the video that's on youtube.
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#1738 Posted 07 July 2016 - 09:49 AM
MrFlibble, on 07 July 2016 - 03:17 AM, said:
BTW, I think you guys mentioned that the build of ROTT with female versions of certain guards was still available somewhere. IIRC this feature was dropped from the game because it could not be optimized to work on 4 meg machines or something. I suppose that such constraints no longer apply these days, so theoretically a new build of the game with alternate guards could be created?
The source code is public, so anything is possible.
nukemania, on 07 July 2016 - 05:58 AM, said:
That's really interesting if true, I've only ever seen the video that's on youtube.
Hendricks266, on 13 July 2014 - 10:39 PM, said:
It's getting ludicrous in here.
MrFlibble, on 07 July 2016 - 03:17 AM, said:
On a completely different (but still related) note, did you come across any of the promotional materials like official vendor screenshots for Apogee/3DR games (like the ones mentioned here)? Many of them were converted to JPEG in some not very good quality (like with Duke Nukem or Commander Keen IV). I wonder if the original PCX or GIF images still exist somewhere? I'm particularly interested in screenshots from Planet Strike, Keen: Oracle, Death Rally, Secret Agent and Rise of the Triad/Extreme ROTT.
No, for the same reason as the WDW midi. Though we do have the map files used to make some of the Duke 3D bullshots.
#1740 Posted 07 July 2016 - 04:28 PM
What kind of name is SuperFnord for a music track anyway, am I missing some sort of obvious pun?
