[Lunick]

I'm pretty sure there was a fanmade patcher somewhere that let you patch your wad/exe etc to different versions but for now I can find this patcher https://www.doomworl...xe_edit/downgrd

[Marphy Black]

Kathy, on 18 September 2016 - 02:41 AM, said:

I want to play Doom(1993) in its original glory. What are my options here? Buy it on GOG and use one of source ports? Which one?

If you're specifically looking to play the very first registered version of Doom, you could buy anything but Doom 3: BFG Edition from any available digital service (Steam and GOG examples, they both come with Ultimate Doom v1.9) and then use the Ultimate Doom v1.9 to Doom v1.1 Downgrade patch. This will remove the fourth episode, restore some of the map and graphic changes, and revert the executable version back to its first registered incarnation (assuming you want to run this in DOSBox).

If you're just looking for a way to play Doom in its original and authentic DOS experience without having to deal with DOSBox, then you'll want the Chocolate Doom source port. This source port emulates v1.9 which is technically 1995 rather than 1993, but the differences here are getting down to mostly minor details.

Kathy, on 18 September 2016 - 02:50 AM, said:

Is it that different from first version? I thought it was akin to Duke's Atomic Edition. But I mostly don't want to play some censored crap than vanilla v.1.0.

The Ultimate Doom adds a new fourth episode, Thy Flesh Consumed, but no other original content is negatively altered. The only censored versions you have to worry about are packed with Doom 3: BFG Edition. There are patches out there to uncensor these versions, but I can't link them here since these were lazily done and just provide the full IWADs, hence effectively pirating the full games. Just don't buy Doom 3: BFG Edition and you're gold.

[PsychoGoatee]

Like they said, pretty much you might as well go for The Ultimate Doom, it's like Duke 3D Atomic. And the fourth episode (made after Doom 2) is quite good too.

I'd recommend GZDoom as a source port, if you like smooth mouse look like Polymost in eduke or Megaton edtion, aka OpenGL acceleration. You can still disable texture filtering etc so the textures are in their original pixally glory, and lots of other options. And there's a way to disable the 3D acceleration also. Or you could just download regular ZDoom too. Those are the most popular ports, Chocolate is for if you're really looking for a 90s authentic experience like mentioned above, I personally prefer GZDoom.

[Kathy]

Thanks everyone. I think I'm gonna go with GOG+GZDoom.

[MusicallyInspired]

Also, my classic SC-55 Doom music pack works great with (G)ZDoom.

[PsychoGoatee]

For sure, I use that music pack. By the way an easy program for if you want to start launching GZDoom with various extra thingies is called ZDL. And/or you can just drag and drop stuff onto the GZDoom exe.

[t800]

I prefer Zdoom Executor over it. More robust, but still very handy and easy to use launcher. Check this thread at Zdoom Forum for download link and news regarding it.
And while we are at sound department, not sure how much Doom purist you are, but there is this Sound HQ pack made by Perkristian, that recreated all Doom sound effects by searching for their origins from sound libraries Id Soft used. And then replacing them with their higher definition counterparts from those libraries.

[MusicallyInspired]

Thanks for that HD sound pack! It's too bad there's nothing like that for Duke3D.

[Marphy Black]

Perkristian also made a similar high quality sounds pack for Duke 3D:
https://www.doomworl...-sound-effects/

It's much less complete compared to his Doom pack but still a very outstanding collection.

[MusicallyInspired]

Does it also use HQ originals of the same SFX used to generate the original sounds?

[leilei]

I definitely hear some Sound Ideas so yes.

[Hendricks266]

Such a pack is likely also possible for Shadow Warrior. An idea I've been musing about since taking a Linear Algebra course is writing a program that will search the entire Sound Ideas corpus for a voc file that you give it, and return % matches. I don't know if I'll ever get around to such a thing.

[Mr. Tibbs]

Free Update 3, which includes new multiplayer modes, improvements and bug fixes, is live.

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Deathmatch – New Deathmatch free-for-all multiplayer mode
Private Matches – Players can create their own private matches in multiplayer. When setting up your matches, you can determine the modes, maps, length of play time, and other match settings such as turning demons and power weapons off or on.

Arcade Mode, a competitive addition to the campaign mode, is releasing later this year in a free update.

[----]

Are campaigns (episodes) in Snapmap possible already?

[Malgon]

[MusicallyInspired]

Oh dear...

It has a way cooler center-of-the-galaxy feature than the actual game, though.

[Lunick]

Flay the Obscene

[Malgon]

The Doom soundtrack is now available for purchase:

https://play.google....xhlfdz4m&rdot=1

https://itunes.apple...ck/id1157733728

[MusicallyInspired]

Finally. Does Google Play Music provide lossless? Never bought from there before.

[Daedolon]

Google Play's audio quality is worse than what's on iTunes, not recommended.

[MusicallyInspired]

Gaahh...why do these venues insist on selling destroyed work? MP3s should be a thing of the past for goodness' sake.

[PsychoGoatee]

Interesting, I agree lossless should be an option, but just for filesize reason (my mp3 players are generally 16gb or even 8gb Sony ones etc), I think the mp3 will remain in style. And to me the usual 320 or variable bitrate ones you find sound great to me. I've listened to a lot of albums lossless and sometimes compared back to back, unless it's a lower quality 128 mp3 or something I generally don't notice the difference.

[MusicallyInspired]

There can't be a high enough bitrate for me to justify actually taking the sonic artwork that somebody has put time, sweat, tears, and money into and tactlessly rearranging and mutilating it just so it'll fit into a smaller file. We live in the age of terabytes! There is no excuse. It doesn't matter if you can't hear the difference. That doesn't mean there isn't one.

[Robert Stever]

MusicallyInspired, on 28 September 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

There can't be a high enough bitrate for me to justify actually taking the sonic artwork that somebody has put time, sweat, tears, and money into and tactlessly rearranging and mutilating it just so it'll fit into a smaller file. We live in the age of terabytes! There is no excuse. It doesn't matter if you can't hear the difference. That doesn't mean there isn't one.

As someone who collects vinyl records, designs his own amplifiers and creates his own cabinets, I have to agree with you.

[PsychoGoatee]

MusicallyInspired, on 28 September 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

There can't be a high enough bitrate for me to justify actually taking the sonic artwork that somebody has put time, sweat, tears, and money into and tactlessly rearranging and mutilating it just so it'll fit into a smaller file. We live in the age of terabytes! There is no excuse. It doesn't matter if you can't hear the difference. That doesn't mean there isn't one.

I just pointed out practical uses for smaller file sizes, since my mp3 player fills up for example. I did say I think lossless should be available, for gents such as yourself. I never said there was no difference, so really we're not disagreeing about anything, was just chiming in with another experience/viewpoint.

[Robert Stever]

PsychoGoatee, on 28 September 2016 - 07:20 PM, said:

I just pointed out practical uses for smaller file sizes, since my mp3 player fills up for example. I did say I think lossless should be available, for gents such as yourself. I never said there was no difference, so really we're not disagreeing about anything, was just chiming in with another experience/viewpoint.

In this day and age with 12tb to spare, I tend to keep all of my music in flac and use ogg for my compressed format. I use subsonic to stream my music in a compressed format to save bandwidth, while still keeping the lossless version at home. Unless I'm under critical listening conditions I see little point in using lossless on a mobile device.

[PsychoGoatee]

I can dig it. I only have about 2 terabytes total on all my hardrives, and they're pretty much full. I also don't have a data plan so I don't stream music when I'm not at home. I also use coal to power my gaming PC, it's pretty metal

[Robert Stever]

PsychoGoatee, on 28 September 2016 - 07:29 PM, said:

I can dig it. I only have about 2 terabytes total on all my hardrives, and they're pretty much full. I also don't have a data plan so I don't stream music when I'm not at home. I also use coal to power my gaming PC, it's pretty metal

Coal? Now this I gotta see.

[MusicallyInspired]

Yeah, listening on the go with headphones I use lossy too (you're not hearing full quality on that headset or those earbuds anyway, I don't care what brand they are). But for sale with no other option? That should have been abolished at least 10 years ago.

[Malgon]

It's unfortunate as I could've sworn that I saw FLAC on the Google Play link. Hopefully this goes up on Bandcamp at some point, or a CD is released for it.