Favorite Microsoft Windows OS? "Got any stories of your memories of them?"
#31 Posted 18 January 2014 - 07:56 AM
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#32 Posted 18 February 2014 - 05:32 PM
98 was slightly better, but had lots of freezing problems.
I liked XP a lot. I almost never got the blue screen of death or freeze.
I have Win7 now. I'm getting used to it. It just bugs me that it won't play a lot of my old games or old software without some special patch, which isn't always available.
#33 Posted 24 February 2014 - 04:01 AM
I am not saying 8.1 is much better but there are differences that for some people are enough to help them decide to chose whether they move to 8 or not.
#34 Posted 24 February 2014 - 11:59 AM
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#36 Posted 28 March 2014 - 06:00 AM
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#37 Posted 31 March 2014 - 04:40 PM
8 is technically better, but that metro - bleurgh!
I liked XP - especially if you loaded the Royal Noir theme , but I had a real soft spot for 98lite. That made an OK operating system into a piece of art. Rock solid and fast as lightning .
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#38 Posted 31 March 2014 - 05:43 PM
Windows XP SP3 will be on my memories as the best system I´ve ever used. I only missed -while using it- DOS support, but just until I found DosBox. I remember W98 SE being a very fine OS too, it had some crashes but nothing compared to W95 or older 98´s. Windows 3.1/3.11 were a sort of eyecandy for me in their times, my father would bring the PC, once again, back from the shop with Windows, once again, reinstalled.. and it would last a couple of weeks before it stopped working again. This forced me to become a DOS master. I remember having a very solid knowledge and control with DOS 6.22. I knew most commands, shortcuts and tricks and that was all thanks to Windows 3.11 being so shitty. It took me a lot of time and grief to let that go, my favorite action in windows 95 and 98 was "exit to dos".
Now, moving the timeline straigth to the end: I´m using W7 64bits these days. It´s nice and looks good and is so much faster than XP (specially for booting and shutting down) but it has a few annoyances i can´t get used to. One is the fucking file ownership, having old HDs with tons of backed up files is a pain because it keeps telling me I have to take ownership of them before accessing them, which is completely stupid because those are MY flies. Another thing I REALLY REALLY hate from w7 is the way it sorts files in the explorer. It keeps rearranging my files by "most used" despite I changing it to alphabetic order. It happens every time, I want X folder to show thumbnails, Y folder to show details arranged by date and Z folder arranged by name. Every time i go to X from Z all files have been re-arranged and then again when i go back again to Z or Y. It keeps changing the details i want to display in my music folders with stupid labels as "number of track" or "collaborative performer", details of which I give a fuck, needless to say. Another thing I hate from it is that it keeps asking me if i want X program to make changes on the system, despite it being a program I use daily, or the need of external codecs and "plugins" in order to display TGA and PSD thumbnails.
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#39 Posted 31 March 2014 - 07:18 PM
Gambini, on 31 March 2014 - 05:43 PM, said:
This is NTFS and it is as it should be. Although, I don't remember system asking me to take ownership as it would automatically do that when I copy anything to NTFS.
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That's because this shitty program wants to have privileged access. I call those crapware.
#40 Posted 31 March 2014 - 08:25 PM
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#41 Posted 01 April 2014 - 06:13 AM
Gambini, on 31 March 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:
If it demands privileged access to the system files/directories then yes, it is indeed a crapware. Why on earth would Photoshop need it?
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You don't get asked when you go just to "control panel", you are asked when you go to panel that is used to change system settings.
Anyway, disable UAC then if you don't like it. You're still working from the root account anyway.
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I can't say I encountered such a problem, but it seems to me to be simply corrected with rewriting ntfs access lists.
#42 Posted 01 April 2014 - 03:06 PM
Kathy, on 01 April 2014 - 06:13 AM, said:
Anyway, disable UAC then if you don't like it. You're still working from the root account anyway.
That UAC thing is useful when you´re running software of doubtful procedence. It should have an option to add an exception when it comes to software that is already installed in your system and that you trust. Does not provide extra safety either as any program can create an exception in the built-in firewall or add scheduled tasks to the boot and you´re never asked if you allow it to do so.
#43 Posted 01 April 2014 - 07:09 PM
#44 Posted 03 April 2014 - 09:01 AM
-disable UAC and install a program like comodo firewall that does the same thing as UAC, but will remember your answers and not ask about the same program every damn time it's ran
Windows 7 file explorer sucks ass
-install classic shell and take back your windows explorer so you can set it up to act more like XP if that's what you want
I hate some of the idiot proofing, but it's there for a reason
-file ownership is built in to keep people from tampering with the system. sorry, i don't know of any easy fix. you have to manually do that. pain in the ass, but if you can get everything into as few folders as
possible and take ownership of those folders, it lets you take ownership of all the files in those folders as well. this should minimize the annoyance, and it only needs to be done once.
you shouldn't run your system in root. nothing to do with security reasons. if someone wants to hack or infect your system a user account is will do just as well as any other door.
staying out of root keeps you from damaging the operating system. you can screw up your user account, but you can go to root, make a new account, and move all your stuff over from the broke account and you don't lose anything important.
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#45 Posted 03 April 2014 - 09:31 AM
Microsoft Word for Windows 1.1 too!
Let's see if Microsoft releases the source to MS-DOS 6 and above to give the DOSBox crew an edge.
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#46 Posted 03 April 2014 - 01:08 PM
Forge, on 03 April 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:
It has everything to do with security reasons. Malware gets access to root - it gets access to everything. Security settings, other user accounts, services etc.
#47 Posted 03 April 2014 - 04:02 PM
Forge, on 03 April 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:
-install classic shell and take back your windows explorer so you can set it up to act more like XP if that's what you want
Thanks for this tip. I have isntalled Classic Shell and it almost feels like being on XP again! I still can´t get rid of those stupid "libraries" but it´s getting closer.
#48 Posted 03 April 2014 - 04:16 PM
Kathy, on 03 April 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:
disagree.
if someone really wants to hack your system. gaining control over a user account makes little difference compared to taking over the root account. especially since they can then take over root from the user account anyway.
malicious viri will attack your mbr or bios. root or user makes no difference once infected.
#50 Posted 04 April 2014 - 04:04 AM
what are you planning?
a simple web search should provide the information you seek
#51 Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:16 AM
#52 Posted 04 April 2014 - 07:04 AM
if someone is skilled enough to sneak into your user account undetected, then it's only a matter of time before they break through the user privileges and hijack the admin account.
A user account is a speed bump. It slows the intruder down to give you the opportunity to catch them, but that's about it.
most malicious crap is aimed at stealing your information, spying on your activities, or hijacking a bit of your bandwidth for denial of service attacks.
since pretty much all that stuff is located in your most frequently used account it really doesn't matter what kind of account you use.
if you properly harden an account it doesn't matter what kind of account you use
if you fail to properly harden an account it doesn't matter what kind of account you use
#53 Posted 04 April 2014 - 10:42 AM
#54 Posted 04 April 2014 - 10:57 AM
eventually they''ll get into your root account with keyloggers, brute force, or the dozen or so other methods.
echo
Forge, on 04 April 2014 - 07:04 AM, said:
if your system is properly hardened then it doesn't matter what type of account you operate under
is a user account a more secure method to use a computer? yes. that's not the issue.
is a user account the perfect security? hell no.
the primary purpose of a user account: to keep you, the end user, from unintentionally screwing up your operating system or network (which inherently keeps intruders and other users from easily screwing it up as well. specific effort and malicious intent will still manage to do so though)
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#55 Posted 04 April 2014 - 12:47 PM
Forge, on 04 April 2014 - 10:57 AM, said:
The thing is that I don't think your system is properly hardened if root account is used for anything other than changing system settings.
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It is essential, but not perfect.
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Perhaps, but it will keep you relatively safe from broad malware attacks.
#56 Posted 04 April 2014 - 03:03 PM
That is the main reason of why i can´t get used to run on an account without privilegies. Systems for idiots, that´s what we all run these days.
#57 Posted 05 April 2014 - 09:21 AM
Gambini, on 03 April 2014 - 04:02 PM, said:
Funny thing, libraries were removed in Windows 8.1
Oh, and this is what we will be seeing in Windows 9 for desktop users:
http://www.theverge....ktop-experience
#58 Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:14 AM
#60 Posted 08 April 2014 - 01:38 PM
Kathy, on 04 April 2014 - 06:16 AM, said:
You guys need to get out more.
https://threatpost.c...omputers/103079