[Forge]

some people are born with fucked up wiring, some have to listen to '80s metal, play doom, do drugs, and get made fun of by the cool kids first

end result is the same either way unless someone recognizes the problem and gets them help before they snap

[Jimmy]

I think you're awesome, Jeff. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you're one of my favourite posters on here. My best friend has Aspergers too. It doesn't bother me at all. My friend loves music and thanks to him we've got a band together because he would never shut up about doing music together.

[Jeff]

 Jimmy, on 07 December 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

I think you're awesome, Jeff. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you're one of my favourite posters on here. My best friend has Aspergers too. It doesn't bother me at all. My friend loves music and thanks to him we've got a band together because he would never shut up about doing music together.

I try to have a variety of interests. I play games, fly with simulators (FSX and Prepar3D 2.0), play golf in the summer. Not much for winter activities. I do watch movies and such. Don't have much variety in games. Looked at the upcoming releases in 2014, and nothing sounds too interesting to me. Unless the next Mass Effect game comes out that year. No firm release date yet. I was messing around with Max Payne 3 over the last week.

I suppose I do need to learn to mix with people with similar interests because there's no reason to talk to someone who's almost a polar opposite of you (eg. I like [X] game; he hates [X] game).

[Fox]

 Jimmy, on 07 December 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

There are consequences of bullying, but mass murder is not one of them. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were fairly popular in their school. And people have said Eric was a bit of a bully. (A lot of people theorize that Dylan would have never done the massacre by himself, or even thought of it.)

And these are the only two sociopaths on the planet?

[Forge]

sociopaths (i.e. people suffering from antisocial personality disorder)
causes:
http://www.mayoclini...DSECTION=causes

you can look up any reputable link you like; most agree it's a combination of genetics and environment

[Fox]

 Forge, on 07 December 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

most agree it's a combination of genetics and environment

And what's not? That's the same as not saying anything.

[Jeff]

Forge, on 07 December 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

sociopaths (i.e. people suffering from antisocial personality disorder)
causes:
http://www.mayoclini...DSECTION=causes

you can look up any reputable link you like; most agree it's a combination of genetics and environment

I definitely don't fit into that category. More into this one. Not really an uncaring person, which would make me a sociopath, I am not. Definitely not selfish, as I have helped others with things. Fixed someone's computer for them a month back. I wanted to do this, because I wanted to help them fix a problem.

[Radar]

I was called autistic, furry, gay, and an aspie for liking My Little Pony. I've been called names for many other things too. One thing I've learned is that treating hostility for hostility will damage relationships even further. I try to show compassion to those that hate me, because I've had instances where people came back to me confessing things in their life, trusting me because I was nice to them when they didn't deserve it. Really guys, just lighten up.

[Lunick]

I knew that the Duke Nukem sidescrollers "borrowed" assets from other games of its time but I didn't know they " borrowed" some music too.

[Forge]

Fox, on 07 December 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

That's the same as not saying anything.

no.

it's saying that certain people are born with a propensity to be a sociopath, but a decent upbringing with a structured environment will, in most cases, preclude the chance of destructive behavior
-there's no guarantee that the person still won't become a sociopath

it also says that a person without an innate inclination to be a sociopath, can, through abuse, neglect, trauma - physical&psychological, acquire the traits to become a sociopath
-there's no guarantee that this person will become a sociopath

there's no set of rules as to why certain people get personality disorders of this nature, but certain combinations are more likely to produce particular results
so the argument about sociopaths being born that way? the answer is yes and no. they can be born broken, or they can be made to be broken from their environment

examples: Richard Ramirez (NightStalker) - normal kid until head injuries and influence by a cousin who exposed him to images of rape and combat kills from Vietnam. Watched his cousin's wife get murdered - by his cousin. etc. - made the way he became by his environment

Dennis Rader (BTK) -normal childhood, normal family - started torturing and killing animals for no reason and acquired a fetish for wearing women's underwear. still managed to get a college degree, serve in the military, become a prominent member of his church, hold down a normal job - then just snapped - born that way

[Forge]

Radar, on 07 December 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

I was called autistic, furry, gay, and an aspie......

yeah, yeah...

[Lunick]

It's good to see good gameplay footage of this game

[Kathy]

While we're at it...

Forge, on 07 December 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

you can look up any reputable link you like; most agree it's a combination of genetics and environment

Btw, what about being gay? This whole "it's not a choice, I was born that way" get hammered pretty loudly, but shouldn't environment also matter in some ways?

Radar, on 07 December 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

I was called autistic, furry, gay, and an aspie for liking My Little Pony. I've been called names for many other things too. One thing I've learned is that treating hostility for hostility will damage relationships even further. I try to show compassion to those that hate me, because I've had instances where people came back to me confessing complex things in their life, trusting only me because I was nice to them when they were mean. Really guys, just lighten up.

I don't know. I was pretty pissed off several months earlier to the point of just getting away from these forums. Because sometimes it becomes too frustrating when posters rather insult or 'joke' over and over than argue on a topic at hand. Especially when the topic is quite important to you.

[Master Fibbles]

Tendencies (or some word I am blanking on; hey, I'm a little drunk after a company Christmas party) influenced by hormones and genetic markers are factors in things like sociopathy and homosexuality. However, environment and life experiences are probably larger factors.

People who are "flamboyant" are not necessarily homosexual. People who are emotionally repressed (that isn't the right word) are not necessarily sociopaths.

I have certainly gone through what some might consider sociopathic phases (I may still be in one at 26). But that isn't really from genetics. It is probably from girls being evil. Certain genetic attributes influenced and probably augmented the emotional repression from life experiences.


Most things are a combination of genetic attributes and hormonal levels and life experiences.

[Forge]

Kathy, on 07 December 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

Btw, what about being gay? This whole "it's not a choice, I was born that way" get hammered pretty loudly, but shouldn't environment also matter in some ways?

hypotheses point to hormonal exposure while in the womb too much/little androgen or testosterone

link:
http://healthland.ti...-homosexuality/

there are quite a few more, but one should suffice

most studies indicate that social environment is not as large a contributing factor as prenatal environment-
fraternal twin studies are skewed because twins receive blood and hormones from separate placentas
identical twin studies are skewed, while sharing a hormonal environment it's been found that one twin usually gets the majority of the "input" and transfuses it to the other twin (thus the fluids have been "filtered")
there's no such thing as a "gay" gene
sexual preference is not a "fixed" propensity
that's why people can change orientation during their lifetimes or go through what they call, "their experimental stage"
but trying to force yourself to change probably wouldn't be good for your mental health because you'll be fighting your normal natural urges

if you're thinking about it, just let your gate swing both ways so you can get the best of both worlds

[Jeff]

Post-Op picture



This isn't as painful as it looks. I don't really feel anything from it. Looks painful though.

I can see around 20/20 in both eyes. Although they can check it on Monday, and possibly tweak for better results.

[Kathy]

Quote

if you're thinking about it, just let your gate swing both ways so you can get the best of both worlds

I'd be happy if my gate swing at least somewhere. So... how about that soap?

[Jimmy]

Radar, on 07 December 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

I was called autistic, furry, gay, and an aspie for liking My Little Pony. I've been called names for many other things too. One thing I've learned is that treating hostility for hostility will damage relationships even further. I try to show compassion to those that hate me, because I've had instances where people came back to me confessing complex things in their life, trusting only me because I was nice to them when they were mean. Really guys, just lighten up.

Because you're awesome. You are one of the funniest posters hete.

[High Treason]

Something random, I can't be the only one thinking that this;



Sounds like this;


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@Jeff; Your photo reminds me of minority report, don't take the bandages off for 24 hours or you'll go blind, next thing we know you'll be eating the mouldy sandwich and drinking sour milk from the refridgerator. Nah, glad to know it seems to have gone well.

[Jeff]

High Treason, on 07 December 2013 - 10:51 PM, said:

@Jeff; Your photo reminds me of minority report, don't take the bandages off for 24 hours or you'll go blind, next thing we know you'll be eating the mouldy sandwich and drinking sour milk from the refridgerator. Nah, glad to know it seems to have gone well.

I think it also depends on the surgeon's skill level as well. However, like I said, the lady that did mine has been doing this for 25 years. So there's like a 0.0000001 chance that something could go wrong. I did kind of flinch when they were applying the first laser (makes a loud snapping noise, startled me), but that was just to take off the tissue from the eye (it's a cool laser, not hot). Thankfully my cold did cover up some of the burning flesh smell. The second laser actually corrects the vision. I didn't flinch there. Looked like a green and red light show.

Forgot one thing.

Don't scratch! Never scratch!

Dr. Solomon: I'll have to remove your eyes completely and replace them with new ones.
John Anderton: I'd like to keep the old ones
Dr. Solomon: Why?
John Anderton: Because my mother gave them to me.

My eye color is actually similar to my mom's (90% green, with a hint of hazel in the center). I think my dad has blue eyes. Last I checked.

I haven't seen that movie in a while. I should watch it tomorrow.

[Hendricks266]

Radar, on 07 December 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

Moderators? MODERATORS!? HAHAHAHAH

This is the moderator toolbar:

Radar, on 07 December 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

A post I made in a thread was spliced out and put into a new one titled "The Supreme Topic of Retardation". My titled was changed to "$10.13/dozen", and at one point it was "Lostpenis Bicycleaccident".

Those were all me. It's more that the other mods are either busy or don't care about degeneracy outside the EDuke32 subforums, and that I abuse my power take my job lightly.

[faked]

 rainbowisle.bmp (536.77K)
Number of downloads: 43

[Hendricks266]

Protip: If you're uploading a BMP, you'll just about always want to convert it to PNG first. The file size will always be smaller, and you won't lose any quality in the process.

[The Commander]

Protip, make your own thread for those weird pictures as I said before.

[Lunick]

Was searching for more maps by a certain Duker and managed to find this old IRC log http://talonbrave.in...ary/gb02_26.txt

[Fox]

Forge, on 07 December 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

no.

Yes. A person propensity to kill, have sex, play videogames or eat chocolate, everything is biology + environment.

Kathy, on 07 December 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

Btw, what about being gay? This whole "it's not a choice, I was born that way" get hammered pretty loudly, but shouldn't environment also matter in some ways?

That's crap, but given the context of being used against the religious fundamentalists, it's a valid argument.

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[Forge]

Fox, on 08 December 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

That's crap, but given the context of being used against the religious fundamentalists, it's a valid argument.

That's crap. Religious people aren't the only ones who prosecute individuals for their sexual orientation

Fox, on 08 December 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

Yes. A person propensity to kill, have sex, play videogames or eat chocolate, everything is biology + environment.

no. And i gave an example of a serial killer born with pathological mental issues, but grew up and lived in a perfectly "normal" environment. Internal wiring problems finally overrode his attempt to live peacefully.

[Mark]

That "normal" environment may have contained the triggers that activated the internal wiring. So I also believe it can be a combination of biology + environment.

[Ronin]

A pretty decent documentary on video games by Charlie Brooker, well worth a watch.
It can be seen here. http://www.channel4....d-the-world/4od

Or if that has regional restrictions it can be found on Youtube or the other usual places.
Charlie Brooker has been trying to explain to older people and non gaming types that games are more than mere kids toys for a while now, unfortunately he is usually unsuccessful and has discribed how watching someone who is completely ignorant about video games trying to play is like watching a dog trying to fly a helicopter.

Look at this as a perfect example of a closed minded old fool doing his best to not try to understand gaming.

[Forge]

Mark., on 08 December 2013 - 08:06 AM, said:

That "normal" environment may have contained the triggers that activated the internal wiring. So I also believe it can be a combination of biology + environment.

Well there you have it. Brain development, chemical/hormonal exposure, and any other prenatal environmental influences have very little to do with anything a person may do during their lifetime other than giving a person the propensity to be more prone to external influences. Babies don't go on chainsaw rampages in the maternity ward.