[randir14]

Wow...those are some of the worst animations I've ever seen in a game. Especially when he stands stiff as a board and slowly raises the pistol.

[Jimmy]

I'm not sure what to think of this one yet. Graphically, it's around Land of the Babes/Time to Kill, in terms of mood and tone it seems like Zero Hour (which is probably my favorite Duke game), and it's gameplay looks like a flatter Manhattan Project.

[MrBlackCat]

I realize not everyone here plays or has a DS... but honestly this game doesn't look like a reason to buy a DS...
Here is what I posted at GearBox to put this game into perspective relative to just a couple of games.

Ok... I just have to do this.

Look at this... not for the game being "good" or interesting. Look at what THEY get out of a regular old DS.


It can be done... while this game doesn't look like much FUN, it does look pretty darn good graphically.

Now... look at this game on the DS...
Metroid Prime Hunters... FPS.

Or a review here...
http://www.ign.com/v....bjectid=682835

However... if the game is fun, I will still enjoy it. Until I play it, I just can't say though. Either way, I will be buying it.

I have a SpongeBob game for the DS which operates similarly... in that it is a semi-side scrolling 3D game. But the clarity, frame rate, and animations absolutely blow this Duke game away... granted Nickelodeon put major bucks into their games via THQ, but still... my point is that it CAN be done. It just wasn't.

MrBlackCat

[blackharted]

MusicallyInspired, on 24 March 2011 - 12:56 PM, said:

Don't blame Gearbox. It was 2k who set the release date to begin with. Randy didn't even know about it when it was announced. Blame 2k. So far they're the ones screwing everything up (the cover art, the release date) and Gearbox are taking the heat for it. Direct blame where blame is due. At least they didn't mess aroudn about it and accepted any flak they were going to get with the way they produced that video.

I did and will. The own the IP right? Randy MUST have know about it.

Also it it true CM is coming out today? 8th April? If so there hasn't been ONE SINGLE piece of marketing on T.V. or anything, apart from the piece of shit trailer.

[MrBlackCat]

blackharted, on 08 April 2011 - 06:18 AM, said:

I did and will. The own the IP right? Randy MUST have know about it.

Also it it true CM is coming out today? 8th April? If so there hasn't been ONE SINGLE piece of marketing on T.V. or anything, apart from the piece of shit trailer.

*edit*
Unable to find the video in question... so...

It is my understanding that the rights to Duke Nukem on the Handhelds (Trilogy) were isolated from the GearBox transition.

Chronologially, the Apogee deal was done long before GearBox was ever involved in Duke Nukem Forever. I speculate the Apogee Duke Nukem deal was isolated from the IP transfer to GearBox.

I can't substantiate this however at this time.

Toy companies do this all the time... like Kenner owns the rights to specific things, but Bobble Heads can also license Star Wars figures BUT with limitation to a non-competing product... like they can only make Bobble Head Star Wars stuff. Same with all the other non Kenner/Hasbro licensees of Star Wars merchandise.

As far as no advertising, I think the new Apogee is a joke... or has serious problems. They seem to be running just like 3D Realms ended up being run... poor everything.

MrBlackcat

[OpenMaw]

What the Hell did they do with those extra months? It was supposed to come out back in summer of 2009, and there has been no improvement from the unoffical leaked video from way back.

Looks terrible, honestly. Really terrible. I disagree with whoever said this looked like it had the feel of Zero Hour or Manhattan Project. Those games had far more balls to them. This feels like its nutered and stale.

[Sharpie]

All I can say is thank god that Duke Nukem Forever is coming out because if this was the only Duke Nukem game to release I would be absolutely crushed.

[Micky C]

Let's have an iPhone port

[duke4everman]

Micky C, on 08 April 2011 - 04:29 PM, said:

Let's have an iPhone port

of the trilogy you mean? that may work

[blackharted]

MrBlackCat, on 08 April 2011 - 03:44 PM, said:

Actually Randy stated directly that the Duke Nukem Trilogy rights were already written before they got the Duke Nukem IP and are unrelated to the GearBox acquisition. Separate deal in other words.
I don't know which interview it was, but someone asked him about it directly and he stated something similar to the above and also he acted as though he knew nothing about it beyond that... like he was asking/verifying with the guy next to him (from GearBox also) and actually said "I don't really know what happened with that..." or something close to that.

It sounds to me as if Apogee (The New) retained the rights to Duke Nukem maybe at least relative to HandHelds.

Toy companies do this all the time... like Kenner owns the rights to specific things, but Bobble Heads can also license Star Wars figures BUT with limitation to a non-competing product... like they can only make Bobble Head Star Wars stuff. Same with all the other non Kenner/Hasbro licensees of Star Wars merchandise.

As far as no advertising, I think the new Apogee is a joke... or has serious problems. They seem to be running just like 3D Realms ended up being run... poor everything.

Show me a link. You can remember? go and look.

Commando Nukem, on 08 April 2011 - 03:44 PM, said:

What the Hell did they do with those extra months? It was supposed to come out back in summer of 2009, and there has been no improvement from the unoffical leaked video from way back.

Looks terrible, honestly. Really terrible. I disagree with whoever said this looked like it had the feel of Zero Hour or Manhattan Project. Those games had far more balls to them. This feels like its nutered and stale.

Agreed.

[MrBlackCat]

blackharted, on 09 April 2011 - 05:29 AM, said:

Show me a link. You can remember? go and look.

It is in one of the video interviews of the world tour... I don't know what one.
If I get time I will show you.
I don't expect anyone to believe anything blindly man, and I do make mistakes, but I seldom talk out of my ass, and never on purpose. No need to go barking orders you can't enforce. "go and look" what kind of Bullshit is that?

Anyway, the interviewer just shot it out as a quick question and it almost stumps Randy and friend.

I will TRY to find it just for you though. Give me a couple of days... there is a buttload of videos and this is like 5 seconds in the middle of one of them. The impression I got was they have nothing to do with that IP deal.

MrBlackCat

[blackharted]

MrBlackCat, on 09 April 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

No need to go barking orders you can't enforce. "go and look" what kind of Bullshit is that?

I'm trying to add bite to your bark

MrBlackCat, on 09 April 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

I will TRY to find it just for you though. Give me a couple of days... there is a buttload of videos and this is like 5 seconds in the middle of one of them. The impression I got was they have nothing to do with that IP deal.

Done.

[Jimmy]

Commando Nukem, on 08 April 2011 - 03:59 PM, said:

I disagree with whoever said this looked like it had the feel of Zero Hour or Manhattan Project. Those games had far more balls to them. This feels like its nutered and stale.

You misread my post completely. It has the atmosphere of Zero Hour, as in the art direction is similar, the game practically starts out exactly the same way, etc. It has the same basic gameplay of MP (just dumbed down.)

[MrBlackCat]

blackharted, on 09 April 2011 - 10:43 AM, said:

I'm trying to add bite to your bark

If I can't find it in a couple of days I delete the post... maybe someone else will remember it though. I just went through a lot of them and learned that I hate people who post/steal/repost video they didn't make that is just the same damn video as someone elses, with a different IconView. Makes stuff like this extremely time consuming.

I wasn't barking so to speak anyway... I was telling you what I learned. Sorry I can't prove it thus far... so if I can't, I will retract it and be satisfied with just knowing it myself.

I will tell you what I remember just in case someone else remembers... it was shortly after PAX during the world tour times. I am almost certain it was a standing interview, at night or dark, and two people were there. (probably Randy and Steve) and near the end of the interview he asked something about the game for the Handhelds and he reacted as though he and GearBox has nothing to do with them... and then said something along the lines of "that was before we got hold of it" or "that was before our deal" or something along those lines. The part I remember with the most clarity is that Randy said "I don't know what happened with that..." in reference to the Duke Nukem Trilogy.

I am trying to find it.

MrBlackCat

[blackharted]

MrBlackCat, on 09 April 2011 - 01:46 PM, said:

Makes stuff like this extremely time consuming.

Yeah i appreciate that dude

MrBlackCat, on 09 April 2011 - 01:46 PM, said:

I wasn't barking so to speak anyway...

I know its a figure of speech.

[MrBlackCat]

blackharted, on 09 April 2011 - 02:29 PM, said:

Yeah i appreciate that dude

I give up... I looked through all I could find. Either it was later edited out, or I just can't find it.

Feel free to blame GearBox completely, without any attempt at redirection by my posts, I won't interfere.
READY!
....
FIGHT! (ding)

========================

If someone finds or remembers a video interview where Rand Pitchford denies any knowledge or control relative to the Duke Nukem Trilogy, please drop a link in here.

Thanks.

MrBlackCat

[OpenMaw]

Duke Trilogy, and the Duke Nukem Movie are not under the control of Randy. Those fall under the control of Apogee and Depth/Radar respectively.

[blackharted]

MrBlackCat, on 09 April 2011 - 09:28 PM, said:

READY!
....
FIGHT! (ding)

*Throws punch*

"Oh blackharted just knocked Blackcat back to next week!

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10!!!!!

blackharted wins by knockout!!!!

[MrBlackCat]

blackharted, on 10 April 2011 - 03:17 AM, said:

*Throws punch*

"Oh blackharted just knocked Blackcat back to next week!

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10!!!!!

blackharted wins by knockout!!!!

Hahaha... well ok, but actually I was thinking more of between you and GearBox. Just because you were blaming them for allowing the release of a poor quality DS game. I am convinced they are not involved and have no say though.

If I find this, YOU will have to take it on the chin though. But I have to go back to work for a while, so it won't be soon I think. Someone else will have seen this video surely. I think people just don't care about Duke Nukem Trilogy enough for it to stick. We shall see.

I wish you could have knocked me into June however... can't wait to play Duke Nukem Forever.

MrBlackCat

[NUKEMDAVE]

http://thejoypads.co...ith-terry-nagy/

Interview with Terry talking about Critical Mass.

[blackharted]

MrBlackCat, on 10 April 2011 - 03:45 PM, said:

If I find this, YOU will have to take it on the chin though.

HA! You think, you acually think you can take me? ME! *laughs so hard and almost chokes*

MrBlackCat, on 10 April 2011 - 03:45 PM, said:

I wish you could have knocked me into June however... can't wait to play Duke Nukem Forever.

I'm not that kind.

[NUKEMDAVE]

I'm the moderator now on the Apogee Forums.

[MrBlackCat]

NUKEMDAVE, on 14 April 2011 - 10:25 PM, said:

I'm the moderator now on the Apogee Forums.

Cool...

Like THE moderator?
I am heading over there now to get banned!

Not much to moderate right now though. Maybe traffic will pick up a little when a few people get Duke Nukem for the DS.

MrBlackCat

[NUKEMDAVE]

Actually, the only thing so far that I've noticed that I can do is add infractions to members' accounts. I'm going to have to ask and see if there's more things I'm supposed to be able to do.

[MrBlackCat]

NUKEMDAVE, on 15 April 2011 - 03:59 PM, said:

Actually, the only thing so far that I've noticed that I can do is add infractions to members' accounts. I'm going to have to ask and see if there's more things I'm supposed to be able to do.

Can you talk about your relationship with Apogee? Can you say what happened to the intern that made all the promises about contact, gave his email address and then disappeared?

Cool... can I have an infraction? I have not been banned anywhere in a very long time. I think its time for Hope and Change... and NOW... NukemDave is in fact... "The Laww" (insert mouth slur thingy) at least over at Apogee.

MrBlackCat

[NUKEMDAVE]

MrBlackCat, on 15 April 2011 - 04:23 PM, said:

Can you talk about your relationship with Apogee?

Well, I was contacted by them in early February. I was asked if I would be interested in running a Duke Nukem Trilogy page on Facebook for them. They chose me because of my large following on YouTube and Facebook, and because I'm pretty well-known in the Duke Nukem community. That's about it. That and I am now the moderator of their forums.

P.S. The hardest part about it was keeping my mouth shut about Critical Mass not being dead, but I managed to keep quiet.

MrBlackCat, on 15 April 2011 - 04:23 PM, said:

Can you say what happened to the intern that made all the promises about contact, gave his email address and then disappeared?

No, this is the first time I heard of this. I must have missed that.

MrBlackCat, on 15 April 2011 - 04:23 PM, said:

Cool... can I have an infraction? I have not been banned anywhere in a very long time. I think its time for Hope and Change... and NOW... NukemDave is in fact... "The Laww" (insert mouth slur thingy) at least over at Apogee.

Nope. I'm too nice.

[MrBlackCat]

NUKEMDAVE, on 15 April 2011 - 06:39 PM, said:

P.S. The hardest part about it was keeping my mouth shut about Critical Mass not being dead, but I managed to keep quiet.

Thanks for the reply.
Quiet is a good habit to be in... if you ever violate that trust, it will never be regained.

Apogee1 told us the lack of a US Critical Mass release date was due to the problems in Japan.
That sucks, but I can deal with it.

As the Apogee Moderator, will you now be the information contact as well? All our questions got deleted with the old site of course. My complaint in the past has been the very poor site upkeep in addition to the forum contacts going away. Will you have any involvement with that sort of thing?

Example... "The episodes will being released sequentially, beginning in the summer of 2009." I just copied and pasted that from the Apogee Critical Mass page site... like just now. (source page) That kind of stuff seems pretty bad to me. Is hard for new people to take the site seriously with information that outdated. The front page was finally updated though. That is good.

Anyway, will you be able to help with things like that too?

MrBlackCat

[NUKEMDAVE]

MrBlackCat, on 15 April 2011 - 08:22 PM, said:

As the Apogee Moderator, will you now be the information contact as well? All our questions got deleted with the old site of course. My complaint in the past has been the very poor site upkeep in addition to the forum contacts going away. Will you have any involvement with that sort of thing?

Example... "The episodes will being released sequentially, beginning in the summer of 2009." I just copied and pasted that from the Apogee Critical Mass page site... like just now. (source page) That kind of stuff seems pretty bad to me. Is hard for new people to take the site seriously with information that outdated. The front page was finally updated though. That is good.

Anyway, will you be able to help with things like that too?

No, I'm not going to be an info contact as far as I know. Just the moderator of the forums. I won't have control of updating the website or whatever, unless they decide to let me be in charge of that, but I doubt it.

[MrBlackCat]

NUKEMDAVE, on 15 April 2011 - 11:25 PM, said:

No, I'm not going to be an info contact as far as I know. Just the moderator of the forums. I won't have control of updating the website or whatever, unless they decide to let me be in charge of that, but I doubt it.

Cool... I will see you there. I am surprised nothing is going on since the release of the game. Maybe when things get straightened out in Japan and the US release of Critical Mass hits, forum traffic will pick up.

MrBlackCat

[NUKEMDAVE]

Ok, I've got my full moderation ablities on the Apogee forums now.