[Hendricks266]

Borion, on 13 May 2019 - 12:46 AM, said:

So flag for ignoring hardcoded per frame offset would be best.

Developers, please consider this feature request.

From a systems perspective, I do not want to loosen a strictly defined behavior. In this case it sounds like it would break voxel offsets entirely in exchange for always applying a default case. That kind of thing is bad news for source ports. However I do agree there is a need to solve this kind of thing easily.

[Fox]

The default behavior should be the same as other Build games. Then there should be a DEF token to enable/disable tile offset, and also tokens for arbitrary x-y-z offset (like there is for .md3).

[Borion]

Hendricks266, on 15 May 2019 - 09:05 AM, said:

From a systems perspective, I do not want to loosen a strictly defined behavior. In this case it sounds like it would break voxel offsets entirely in exchange for always applying a default case. That kind of thing is bad news for source ports. However I do agree there is a need to solve this kind of thing easily.

I hope I interpret your answer correctly. I was not suggesting to ignore all offsets entirely. Just hardcoded part, so only offset from each KVX is used. Now we have to adjust offsets in each KVX file, to compensate for varying hardcoded offsets - it only makes sense for original sprites. Thats probably what Fox was talking about, a token to ignore hardcoded part. I hope I'm not talking out of my ass.

Anyway, thanks for commenting on a subject guys!

[Borion]

Time to drop some voxel shit

Toilet 0569 & 0615




KVX: https://mega.nz/#!Vz...SE5_Gf7bYlFcCmI

props.def lines:
voxel "voxels/props/0569_toilet.kvx" { tile 569 }
voxel "voxels/props/0615_brokentoilet.kvx" { tile 615 }

[LeoD]

Borion, on 17 May 2019 - 07:54 AM, said:

Time to drop some voxel shit

That's worth a steaming PoS!
I suggest naming the voxels according to names.h (like 0615_toiletbroke.kvx instead of.kvx 0615_brokentoilet.kvx).
Despite typos and legacy names like cola and sixpack, this is how 'everyone' sees them labelled in Mapster.
@NightFright : I'll PM you a proposal pack where I've already renamed the existing files accordingly, which you may or may not choose to use.

[Borion]

LeoD, on 17 May 2019 - 10:39 AM, said:

That's worth a steaming PoS!
I suggest naming the voxels according to names.h (like 0615_toiletbroke.kvx instead of.kvx 0615_brokentoilet.kvx).
Despite typos and legacy names like cola and sixpack, this is how 'everyone' sees them labelled in Mapster.
@NightFright : I'll PM you a proposal pack where I've already renamed the existing files accordingly, which you may or may not choose to use.

Don't forget to flush
Yeah Leo, I'll use correct names in the future. Totally makes sense. Thanks for the name list!

I used to look up those names in Mapster but I hid them by accident few months ago and since then they don't show up. Even when I cycle labels mode with '+3 only special sectors labels show up.
Probably pressed some weird shortcut by accident and hid all 2D mode sprite labels, damn ^^

[Zaxtor]

She's a beauty

[mxrtxn]

Beautiful work Borion

Here´s a quick one using strip2voxel and slab6

#4371 if I am not mistaken



Download:

https://www.mediafir...plate1.kvx/file

[Zaxtor]

art number is correct
it is 4371

[Borion]

@Martin @ Zaxtor - Thx guys. Nice work Martin!

Coffee Machine (4372)



KVX: https://mega.nz/#!V3...Uln7ANHjqxl0seY

props.def line:
voxel "voxels/props/4372_coffeemachine.kvx { tile 4372 }

[Borion]

Box (0951)



KVX: https://mega.nz/#!4q...MYlnQ7g7MUCKFc8

props.def line:
voxel "voxels/props/0951_box.kvx" { tile 951 }

Original sprite is rotated toward observer about 30 degrees clockwise. For technical reasons I had to make it perpendicular so it needs some maphacks to look less tidy.

EDIT:
I pasted wrong .def line, corrected

[Phredreeke]

can't you add rotation when defining the voxel though?

Edit: Looking through the EDukeWiki's page on the DEF language it appears not. Would make a useful addition though.

[Striker]

Borion, on 17 May 2019 - 11:43 PM, said:

@Martin @ Zaxtor - Thx guys. Nice work Martin!

Coffee Machine (4372)



KVX: https://mega.nz/#!V3...Uln7ANHjqxl0seY

props.def line:
voxel "voxels/props/4372_coffeemachine.kvx { tile 4372 }

The palette in this is wrong. The handle and back switch is showing as brown in-game and in SLAB6, rather than red. Also, the back label is showing up as gray and brown, rather than green.

[Borion]

Thx Striker!

Corrected Coffee Machine:

https://mega.nz/#!47...7bV86jQvl91sxX4

[LeoD]

Borion, on 17 May 2019 - 02:09 PM, said:

I used to look up those names in Mapster but I hid them by accident few months ago and since then they don't show up. Even when I cycle labels mode with '+3 only special sectors labels show up.
Probably pressed some weird shortcut by accident and hid all 2D mode sprite labels, damn ^^

names.h usually comes with the synthesis builds. Mapster32 loads it on startup. Maybe you deleted it from your EDuke32 directory?

Borion, on 19 May 2019 - 07:36 AM, said:

Box (0951)

Original sprite is rotated toward observer about 30 degrees clockwise. For technical reasons I had to make it perpendicular [...]

Should be the way to go IMHO. Similar models are made the same way I think.

Phredreeke, on 19 May 2019 - 08:20 AM, said:

can't you add rotation when defining the voxel though?

Not necessary if voxel rotation matches the existing model. Then current maphacks already take care.

[Phredreeke]

Do they match the model though? Because then it's no problem, as existing maphacks will cover for it.

[Borion]

Phredreeke, on 19 May 2019 - 01:24 PM, said:

Do they match the model though? Because then it's no problem, as existing maphacks will cover for it.

It is rotated, but not enough to be consistent with original and it looks too "tidy", IMO.

EDIT:
But it's not important. There are better ways of spending time, than adjusting angle of cardboard boxes by 5-10 degrees.

[Striker]

Borion, on 19 May 2019 - 12:41 PM, said:

Thx Striker!

Corrected Coffee Machine:

https://mega.nz/#!47...7bV86jQvl91sxX4

Excellent. Thanks!

[Borion]

LeoD, on 19 May 2019 - 12:42 PM, said:

names.h usually comes with the synthesis builds. Mapster32 loads it on startup. Maybe you deleted it from your EDuke32 directory?

Yes, I may screwed up sth before compiling Eduke & Mapster. I'm not a coder, so there is a lot of trial & error happening here I will check this out when I will finally get back to my home in couple of days.
Thanks for a tip, Leo!

Striker, on 19 May 2019 - 04:09 PM, said:

Excellent. Thanks!

No problem, man

[Borion]

Doing this one was way more interesting than couple of last (boring) models.
I will also post damaged version with dead astronaut body soon.



KVX: https://mega.nz/#!N2..._uTKn7KYHJkdeFE

voxel "voxels/props/0058_spacesuit.kvx" { tile 58 }

One more thing, if any mappers out there would really like to have certain sprite converted, say so. I'm getting close to a time, when I probably wont have as much time at hand, as I have now...

[Zaxtor]

Nice space suit

How about bouncemines 940-944

would be nice

[NightFright]

A real pity this has never really been a pickup item in the (final) game. But even for a mere prop it's a really nice addition!

[Zaxtor]

AMC TC could use it since you can wear space suit
Future duke mods can use it since people made usable spacesuits etc

[Borion]

NightFright, on 20 May 2019 - 06:27 AM, said:

A real pity this has never really been a pickup item in the (final) game. But even for a mere prop it's a really nice addition!

Thanks!

Zaxtor, on 20 May 2019 - 06:28 AM, said:

AMC TC could use it since you can wear space suit
Future duke mods can use it since people made usable spacesuits etc

Exactly my thoughts, Zaxor.

Zaxtor, on 20 May 2019 - 05:49 AM, said:

Nice space suit

How about bouncemines 940-944

would be nice

Thx! These mines look really flat when you dive around them, they are good candidate Zaxtor. I'll take care of them right after finishing dead astronaut. Poor fellow still needs few minor touches.

[mxrtxn]

Borion, on 20 May 2019 - 02:44 AM, said:

Doing this one was way more interesting than couple of last (boring) models.
I will also post damaged version with dead astronaut body soon.



KVX: https://mega.nz/#!N2..._uTKn7KYHJkdeFE

voxel "voxels/props/0058_spacesuit.kvx" { tile 58 }

One more thing, if any mappers out there would really like to have certain sprite converted, say so. I'm getting close to a time, when I probably wont have as much time at hand, as I have now...

THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL. Seems your work methods are way more efficient than the rest. Care to show us someday your workflow?

I thinking to buy that program on steam to speed things up with my voxel pack for shadow warrior.

[Borion]

mxrtxn, on 20 May 2019 - 07:40 AM, said:

THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL. Seems your work methods are way more efficient than the rest. Care to show us someday your workflow?

I thinking to buy that program on steam to speed things up with my voxel pack for shadow warrior.

Huge complement, thanks Mxrtxn!
I will share couple workflow technics, sure. Maybe its better to do that on separate thread, set up our little "group of support for voxel addicts"
About Qubicle, it is good investment if you want to do a lot of voxel stuff in the future.
Just don't buy this f*** 75$ Indie version, basic 20$ version got all you need. There is also a demo version with disabled export if you want to play with it before buying.

Cheers

[mxrtxn]

Borion, on 20 May 2019 - 08:11 AM, said:

Huge complement, thanks Mxrtxn!
I will share couple workflow technics, sure. Maybe its better to do that on separate thread, set up our little "group of support for voxel addicts"
About Qubicle, it is good investment if you want to do a lot of voxel stuff in the future.
Just don't buy this f*** 75$ Indie version, basic 20$ version got all you need. There is also a demo version with disabled export if you want to play with it before buying.

Cheers

Sure let me know in a PM. More than eager to learn from you

[Gambini]

Borion: Those voxels are awesome!!

Eager to add them to DNF 2019

[Borion]

mxrtxn, on 20 May 2019 - 09:07 AM, said:

Sure let me know in a PM. More than eager to learn from you

Man, I'm humbled.

Gambini, on 20 May 2019 - 09:12 AM, said:

Borion: Those voxels are awesome!!

Eager to add them to DNF 2019

Humbled again - fantastic!

It's really big for me to hear something like this coming from people that inspired me in the first place. Real boost!

[mxrtxn]

New voxel!

#4426




DOWNLOAD:

https://www.mediafir.../4426k.kvx/file