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New rig I'm getting  "It's about bloody time"

User is offline   Shawneth 

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View PostMusicallyInspired, on Jan 27 2011, 12:40 PM, said:

No, it's my assistant. He stands in for all my photos.

The motherboard I was going to get is out of stock on NewEgg. Crap.


Dude, assistants are awesome, aren't they?
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User is offline   MusicallyInspired 

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I know, right!
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View PostMusicallyInspired, on Jan 27 2011, 10:48 PM, said:

I know, right!

Green Lantern fan are we?
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User is offline   MusicallyInspired 

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#34

Nope.
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User is offline   MusicallyInspired 

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My new monitor just came in today. Ordered it on Tuesday. That's fast! 27" 1080p Asus. It is niiiiiiiiiiice.
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User is offline   Plagman 

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#36

27" for 1080p? Seems you got screwed DPI-wise. The optimal size for 1080p is 23", above that you're just getting bigger pixels for no reason. Also, 16/9 really sucks for day-to-day use; too bad 16/10 screens seem to be phasing out.
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User is offline   MusicallyInspired 

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I knew what I was buying. It may sound strange, but I'm ok with it. It works for me.
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User is offline   Kathy 

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View PostPlagman, on Feb 5 2011, 06:03 AM, said:

Also, 16/9 really sucks for day-to-day use; too bad 16/10 screens seem to be phasing out.

How is 16:10 better than 16:9 for day-to-day use?
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User is offline   Plagman 

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#39

Taller is better for anything except watching movies; reading any kind of content, browsing, working. 16/10 resolutions are usually always a superset of the HD standards, so there's no trade-off involved; it's just strictly superior. 4:3 is better for work, but then you start getting the movie trade-off. The best thing for work is a 4:3 monitor rotated in portrait mode. I use two of these around my 30".
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View PostMusicallyInspired, on Jan 28 2011, 10:05 AM, said:

Nope.

Then you must have seen the movie trailer. On topic I'm upgrading fairly soon.
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User is offline   MusicallyInspired 

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No. I haven't. I'm completely uninterested in comic book movies right now. They're all overdone.
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View PostMusicallyInspired, on Feb 7 2011, 05:30 PM, said:

No. I haven't. I'm completely uninterested in comic book movies right now. They're NOT overdone in any way.

Fixed.

How's the new rig?

This post has been edited by blackharted: 09 February 2011 - 03:22 AM

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User is offline   MusicallyInspired 

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Don't got it yet. I have to wait until the end of March or so before Sandy Bridge processors and P67 mobos become available again.
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User is offline   Shawneth 

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Could I have your computer you are using now ;)
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User is offline   MusicallyInspired 

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Nope. That's going to my wife.
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User is offline   Jeff 

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View PostMusicallyInspired, on Feb 9 2011, 11:18 AM, said:

Don't got it yet. I have to wait until the end of March or so before Sandy Bridge processors and P67 mobos become available again.


I haven't had any slowdowns with my SATA chipset, but maybe it degrades over time instead of all at once. That's why they pulled all those motherboards, because of the SATA flaw that only affects about 5% of motherboards or something.

This post has been edited by Jeff: 15 February 2011 - 11:37 PM

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User is offline   Splat 

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Yeah, i had my new PC assembled one day before the news about the Intel chip problem. Didn't care.. Just plugged main SSD into Sata3.0. I expect no problems.

2500K @ 4.3ghz And system is still cool and very quiet. \o/
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User is offline   MusicallyInspired 

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Yeah. I just didn't order fast enough. ;)
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User is offline   TerminX 

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View PostJeff, on Feb 16 2011, 01:36 AM, said:

I haven't had any slowdowns with my SATA chipset, but maybe it degrades over time instead of all at once. That's why they pulled all those motherboards, because of the SATA flaw that only affects about 5% of motherboards or something.

Nah. It affects 100% of the boards, including yours. Don't use the SATA 3G ports, only the SATA 6G ports.
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User is offline   MusicallyInspired 

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It's not just a slowdown either. It potentially causes data corruption.

Also, are they the ESata ports? Or the internal ones?
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User is offline   Jeff 

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View PostTX, on Feb 16 2011, 03:48 PM, said:

Nah. It affects 100% of the boards, including yours. Don't use the SATA 3G ports, only the SATA 6G ports.


I bought a 2 year extended warranty on my system, so I'll be sure to take it in if anything happens.
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User is offline   MusicallyInspired 

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On the whole system or just the mobo? If just the mobo it won't cover data loss/corruption on your hard drive. Either way wouldn't you rather just not have any data corruption at all? I'd just go the safer way and just use the SATA 6G ports. They're right there.

This post has been edited by MusicallyInspired: 16 February 2011 - 10:18 PM

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User is offline   Jeff 

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I also bought a SATA RAID card with 6 ports on it.
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User is offline   X-Vector 

#54

Jeff, I understand you have a Sandy Bridge + GTX570 combo.
I've been undecided between that card and the HD6970 for a while now and at the moment it's coming down to noise levels and compatibility with older games.
According to the Overclock3D review the HD6970 is noticeably less quiet, which is a definite minus.
My main concern is backward compatibility though, do you have any experience with running games from the 1997-2007 era on the GTX570?
Supposedly Nvidia had worse compatibility earlier on with pre-DX10 titles (such as Thief and System Shock 2), but I haven't been able to determine if this is still the case.
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User is offline   Person of Color 

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I have problems all the time. I own a 2GB GTX 460, which are architecturally very similar to the newer cards, much, much more so than the 470/480. The newer 570/580 are just a 460 GF104 core with minor revisions, more CUDA cores, and less performance enhancements for CUDA. The 560 is a GF104 with all the cores enabled, the 460 has 1 cluster disabled to improve yields.

I have all kinds of issues. I have to use a third party Direct3D9 renderer for Unreal Tournament, and I have smooth scrolling problems with Kega Fusion. FreeSpace 2 Open is a mess at times, certain lighting causes killer framerate drops, and in nebular battles I have framerate drops and micro stuttering when around capital ships. Even Source games have serious micro stuttering with HDR enabled, and minor stuttering with it off. The guns in source games also don't move smoothly from side to side as you walk, they pop and judder. EDGE (Enhanced Doom Gaming Engine) and QuakeLive are the only "old-school" products that seem to work. Haven't tested Duke yet on this guy.

I have had these problems with three different driver builds. nVidia doesn't want to fix them.

My next system will use ATi if nVidia doesn't get their shit together in a couple years.

This post has been edited by Descent: 17 February 2011 - 10:48 AM

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User is offline   Jeff 

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I have noticed some stuttering with my games. Only one that runs great is FSX, but that's because most of the work is done by the CPU. That i7 2600K is quite an improvement over my Q9550. All the GTX 570 does is handle the anti-aliasing, supersampling/multisampling, as well as water shader effects.

I'll have to try out something like UT2004. I was noticing some stuttering with TF2, but for me Source games have been known to have some kind of stuttering. Even with my GTX 280.

This post has been edited by Jeff: 17 February 2011 - 01:27 PM

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View PostDescent, on Feb 17 2011, 11:45 AM, said:

I have problems all the time. I own a 2GB GTX 460, which are architecturally very similar to the newer cards, much, much more so than the 470/480. The newer 570/580 are just a 460 GF104 core with minor revisions, more CUDA cores, and less performance enhancements for CUDA.


That's what some people thought... four months ago. ;)

The GTX 570 / 580 are equipped with a GF110, which is nothing but a revision of the GF100 that you find in the GTX 465 / 470 / 480. However, the GF100 used in these cards was castrated, even for the high-end product (15/16 clusters enabled on the GTX 480), while the GF110 used in the GTX 580 is complete.
The only differences between the chips themselves is that the revision allowed nVIDIA to enable all the clusters and slightly increase the clocks without increasing power consumption.
Besides that, the GF110 is way much closer from the GF100 than from the GF104 / GF114.
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User is offline   Person of Color 

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Thanks for clarifying that. As to why they'd design it around an inferior standard is beyond me.
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View PostDescent, on Feb 28 2011, 09:39 AM, said:

Thanks for clarifying that. As to why they'd design it around an inferior standard is beyond me.


From an economical point of view it seems logical: it would have been much more expensive to redesign a whole new chip with 512 SP's, 64 TMU's and 48 ROP's based on the GF114 than only fixing the main flaws of the GF100.
The design itself is not really inferior, it's just different. GF100 and GF110 are handicaped with some features nearly useless for gamers (but useful for e.g. GPGPU), while GF104 and GF114 are designed in a more elegant way with only gaming in mind as nVIDIA got rid of those "useless" features. However GF100 and GF110 are superior in some sense since they have more geometric power which can prove useful when high levels of tesselation are used for example.
You can observe this when comparing GTX 460 (GF104) and GTX 465 (GF100). The GTX 460 delivers better efficiency in most situations while having lower heat and power consumption due to its refined design, but in some rare situations the GTX 465 is faster when enabling DX11 and tesselation (if I remember correctly it happens under Battleforge for example).
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User is offline   MusicallyInspired 

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The Sandy Bridge processors are available on NewEgg again. But still no motherboards.
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