[Mikko Pekkola]

Darkus, on 18 June 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

Page 145(Beta Duke 3D)

Also a great find, but... Did you find any other scans of this magazine with more screenshots of this Beta Duke 3D? I am very interested to see them

[dnskill]

Darkus, on 18 June 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

Page 53

Well... I tried recreating that shotgun pickup, but failed.. I hope somebody else can do it!
 shotgun.png (636bytes)
Number of downloads: 992
 gun.png (5.22K)
Number of downloads: 897

EDIT, here's a shitty way of doing it:
 gun.png (1.53K)
Number of downloads: 884

EDIT AGAIN, here is my final attempt, and I think this is the best one (practice makes almost perfect)
Version one
Version two

Also, a friend of mine pointed out that this beta shotgun you all saw in that one screenshot.. It looks very much like the shotgun in Alien Trilogy (PSX)..

[leilei]

I'm not sure about this one - Was the dancer actress ever known?

There's some partial rotoscoping with a few of the sprites, and i'm pretty sure it's the same person as the cheerleader, the red microbikini dancer, calendar girl, the Exotica dancer (with pixeled new head), the blinking eye, etc.

[Minigunner]

It's possible that like Duke and all the monsters, the women were also model rips.

[dnskill]

I remember in the official strategy guide book, the author talked to one of the artist and the artist was one who got to work on the girls, making it sound like they were hand drawn. I think Minigunner is right, they could've been model edits, or something. I doubt it was a real girl. And the posters and stuff (not the biker babe/sister act iii posters) were probably real posters, edited a lot to fit the game, but maybe not.

I also think the Duke Nukem was not at first a model, but in fact a GI Joe or something. Just look at the Lame Duke skin, looks like a toy, and the sun glasses looked like they were put on using MS Paint.

[leilei]

The girls aren't models. This is 1995 technology - uncanny valley would be quite obvious if they were actually model renders. While it's true that some have pixel work done to them, you can clearly see use of footage in some of the sprites (particularly cheerleader/tribal/red dancer) and the animated walls.

Lameduke however, has a few models that are extremely Poser 4-esque. Mspaint didn't exist then either.

[Jimmy]

3DR mainly used Deluxe Paint and Deluxe Animate on Rise of the Triad, Duke 3D, and Shadow Warrior, even early versions of DNF.

[dnskill]

I know MSPaint didn't exist then, lol what I was saying is how sloppy the sunglasses were put on in the Lameduke skin. It looked as if the model/action figure/whatever it started out to be originally had no sunglasses on it, and someone just did a rough job on them for the time being.

Anyways, I think I've noticed something.

In a lot of old screenshots with that early pig cop with the baton, you can see him appear to be flying in the air and an explosion around him. I think the reason the enemies fly forward from rockets has something to do with this. Maybe they had planned for just the pig cop to do this (when pigs fly!), but forgot to edit the code?

[ReaperMan]

leilei, on 07 July 2013 - 08:51 AM, said:

Mspaint didn't exist then either.

Mspaints first release was in 1985 with windows 1.0.... so yes it did exist.

[leilei]

"Mspaint" generally refers to the 1995 rewrite with palettes, random spray brush, etc. Paints before that were "Paintbrush / pbrush" and then "Paint" which operated almost completely differently to Mspaint. No matter which version of Microsoft Paint, it's not used in the production of professional products anyway.

[Jimmy]

Just whipped this up.

[Fox]

There is part of a building that shouldn't be there.

[Jimmy]

Where at exactly? I noticed you cut out part of a building that SHOULD have been there.

[Fox]

I was speaking about a corner of the Union Bank that remains in the background. About the one you mentioned, actually that seems unlikely because the City National Plaza towers are identical, and that makes their sizes very different (there is also a 1 pixel difference beetween height of the building in the two tiles).

[necroslut]

leilei, on 07 July 2013 - 08:51 AM, said:

The girls aren't models. This is 1995 technology - uncanny valley would be quite obvious if they were actually model renders. While it's true that some have pixel work done to them, you can clearly see use of footage in some of the sprites (particularly cheerleader/tribal/red dancer) and the animated walls.

Lameduke however, has a few models that are extremely Poser 4-esque. Mspaint didn't exist then either.

Joe Siegler mentioned that the two strippers were the same girl - meaning they were not 3D models or hand-drawn.

[Fox]

A few more photos of LA that matches the paralaxed sky.

Spoiler

[Mark]

Is anyone planning to chop any of Fox's pics into a skybox? Or are they not suitable.

[Fox]

Maybe they are, but the way the game is hard-coded to mix 8 pieces in the sky is quite disappointing.

[Fox]

The blood from enemy sprites was not so 3D as the models they originated from:



Concept art for Duke Nukem 64 weapons:

[ReaperMan]

Fox, on 29 July 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

Concept art for Duke Nukem 64 weapons:

Got anymore of those?

[Fox]

That's all I got.

The pistol is not far from the actual gun (it also mention the dum-dum bullets), but the only thing left from the rest is the missile ammo.

[Jimmy]

20mm is a fucking cannon shell.

[OpenMaw]

Jimmy, on 29 July 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

20mm is a fucking cannon shell.

"Y'know i'm a not a very good shot but "The Samaritan" here has really big bullets." - Hellboy.

That's pretty much all that comes to mind, and even that isn't quite the right size!



That's really cool to see Fox, thank you for sharing. Never thought anything like that was released for the N64 version. I love this thread.

[ReaperMan]

Jimmy, on 29 July 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

20mm is a fucking cannon shell.

Duke Isn't fucking around.

[Fox]

I think the 20mm has something to do with the laser sight: http://www.ebay.com/...cat=0&_from=R40

[OpenMaw]

Nah it specifically says "20MM ammo"

Not really surprising for a 1990's video game though!

[Fox]

I think the "AMMO" part refers to the images on the right.

[Jimmy]

You could be right, Fox.

Either way, the gun that ended up in the game is pretty obviously meant to be a Colt 1911, which is .45 ACP.

[High Treason]

As I said a long time ago;


I found my VHS. Volume is a little low, if that really is a problem I can go back and press normalize.

About 14-15 seconds in.

[Lunick]

Wow...