[MrFlibble]

On a somewhat related note, I've also compared the files in the shareware releases of Shadow Warrior. There are expected differences in art files and maps, as well as some others:

FILENAME	  v1.0		  v1.1		  v1.2
------------	---------	---------	---------
TILES000.ART	2 244 435	   (same)	2 398 035
TILES009.ART	  274 899	   (same)	  387 580
TILES010.ART	  498 520	   (same)	  506 712
TILES011.ART	   89 145	   (same)	  121 065
TILES019.ART	2 063 813	2 062 385	2 011 673
TILES020.ART	  450 184	   (same)	  578 184
TILES021.ART	 (absent)	 (absent)	   26 432
COMMIT.DAT	      743	      743	 (absent)
AD5.VOC		 (absent)	 (absent)	    2 427
DRIP.VOC	   11 457	   (same)	   50 516
TNKIDLE.VOC	   10 785	    (same)	   11 421
TNKRUN.VOC	   12 321	    (same)	   41 762
SWPLOCK.TXT	    3 357	    (same)	    3 527
$BULLET.MAP	  170 614	  170 118	  172 022
$DOZER.MAP	  261 234	  261 146	  260 682
$SHRINE.MAP	  214 290	  209 998	   (same)
$WOODS.MAP	  303 686	  304 162	  306 054
DEMOS.RUN	       22	    (same)	 (absent)
SWCODE.SYM	  122 184	   122 544	  138 960
SWDATA.SYM	   69 732	    69 696	   76 392
E1L01.MID	   37 623	    37 525	   (same)

The only difference in the art files between v1.0 and v1.1 is that the info the new Shadow Warrior newsgroup was added to one of the splash screens. As for the art additions in v1.2, here goes:

• TILES000.ART - added a panoramic sky panel with a mountain, probably Mount Fuji
  
• TILES009.ART - added the dart sprites as shuriken replacement for the censored British version
  
• TILES010.ART - added ceiling lamp textures for the normal and broken state
  
• TILES011.ART - added the rotating Yin Yang symbol (v1.0 and v1.1 only have the rotating shuriken symbol)
  
• TILES019.ART - changed the info screens; changed the beta Lara Croft image to the one used in the full release
  
• TILES020.ART - added the strategy guide and Game Gateway ads
  
• TILES021.ART - the graphics for the boss health and air meters (this was entirely absent in v1.0 and v1.1)

It is interesting to note that while the ordering information and credits screens were updated in v1.2, the help screens remain the same as in the older versions and use the old font. The only difference is that the two of the registered weapons have swapped number keys.

Here are the ordering information and game credits screens from v1.0:

Spoiler

Also, between v1.0 and v1.1, most if not all of Lo Wang's speech was edited, apparently to increase sound volume. Here's the rather lengthy list:

Spoiler

FILENAME	  v1.0		  v1.1
------------	---------	---------
ACCU01.VOC	   21 386	   21 602
ACS10.VOC	   23 187	   23 237
AHH03.VOC	    8 431	    9 078
BABOON03.VOC	   21 642	   21 856
BADMAN04.VOC	   19 679	   20 254
BANZAI1.VOC	   11 412	   11 746
BBURN04.VOC	   35 985	   36 916
BIGWPN01.VOC	   14 664	   15 076
CBUNG01.VOC	   22 113	   22 251
CHARAD09.VOC	   26 386	   26 072
EAT02.VOC	   23 777	   23 804
FCRACK01.VOC	   31 478	   31 861
GHOP07.VOC	   21 006	   21 301
GOODDAY4.VOC	   23 079	   23 506
HAHA11.VOC	   13 788	   13 752
HAHA15.VOC	   14 540	   14 806
HAHA19.VOC	   13 738	   15 137
HCOW03.VOC	   19 821	   19 492
HCOW06.VOC	   19 907	   21 002
HIRO03.VOC	   24 448	   24 710
HSHIT03.VOC	   20 739	   21 686
HSHIT04.VOC	   20 920	   21 637
IAM01.VOC	   24 141	   24 466
IHOPE01.VOC	   29 091	   29 371
ILIKE01.VOC	   27 981	   28 471
JG1075.VOC	   23 811	   23 560
JG1082.VOC	   19 224	   20 097
JG1087.VOC	   16 602	   16 184
JG1088.VOC	   22 420	   22 899
JG1103.VOC	   24 434	   24 315
JG2000.VOC	   21 198	   21 880
JG2001.VOC	   13 881	   14 102
JG2005.VOC	   23 661	   23 064
JG2020.VOC	   21 681	   22 159
JG2032.VOC	   22 386	   22 830
JG2045.VOC	   25 967	   26 532
JG2053.VOC	   26 127	   26 388
JG2054.VOC	   23 746	   23 943
JG2074.VOC	   16 923	   18 321
JG2075.VOC	   21 163	   21 473
JG2078.VOC	   16 976	   17 276
JG2087.VOC	   14 789	   15 323
JG3005.VOC	   27 885	   28 284
JG3017.VOC	   28 285	   30 028
JG3022.VOC	   47 059	   47 707
JG3047.VOC	   23 847	   24 391
JG3059.VOC	   31 751	   32 416
JG3070.VOC	   47 342	   47 540
JG4002.VOC	   31 988	   32 675
JG4012.VOC	   39 173	   39 873
JG4024.VOC	   27 321	   27 689
JG5042.VOC	   53 391	   53 850
JG5049A.VOC	   30 308	   30 308
JG6051.VOC	   10 572	   10 847
JG6053.VOC	   36 959	   37 464
JG7001.VOC	   19 904	   19 864
JG7009.VOC	   24 714	   24 815
JGB020.VOC	   23 641	   24 463
JGB023.VOC	   25 135	   25 672
JGB080.VOC	   18 163	   18 648
JGB106.VOC	   16 503	   16 823
JGB130.VOC	   39 750	   39 996
JGB156.VOC	   55 067	   55 322
JGB166.VOC	   22 447	   22 270
JGB193.VOC	   34 572	   36 132
JGB202.VOC	   33 813	   33 509
KILLU05.VOC	   21 752	   22 308
KUNGFU06.VOC	   34 580	   33 497
LIKNUK01.VOC	   16 176	   16 908
LIKSHK02.VOC	   15 724	   16 628
LIKSRD01.VOC	   30 713	   31 039
LMOVE01.VOC	   19 266	   19 783
LUCK06.VOC	   26 622	   26 931
LWANG05.VOC	   33 521	   34 021
MCHAN01.VOC	   29 094	   29 654
MUSIC03.VOC	   18 708	   18 497
NAGA06.VOC	   25 543	   25 246
NATURAL4.VOC	   26 343	   26 716
NODIFF07.VOC	   28 713	   28 715
NOFEAR01.VOC	   23 028	   23 057
NOHONOR6.VOC	   20 309	   21 442
NOWAY1.VOC	   16 176	   16 873
PEARL03.VOC	   24 376	   24 345
RAW01.VOC	   43 022	   43 257
RCHAN13.VOC	   35 527	   36 097
REFLEX08.VOC	   20 681	   20 815
REPMAN15.VOC	   22 426	   22 517
SAYON09.VOC	   25 867	   26 273
SNATCH01.VOC	   23 726	   24 290
SOB15.VOC	   20 873	   20 970
SPEED04.VOC	   22 366	   22 130
STIFF01.VOC	   27 222	   27 550
STUPID01.VOC	   26 206	   26 664
SWDIE02.VOC	   30 946	   31 120
SWPAIN03.VOC	    9 301	    8 638
SWPAIN05.VOC	    6 164	    6 023
SWPAIN07.VOC	    6 059	    6 189
SWPAIN22.VOC	    6 601	    6 413
SWYELL03.VOC	    8 063	    7 795
SWYELL05.VOC	    7 146	    7 446
SWYELL06.VOC	   11 016	   11 685
SWYELL13.VOC	    3 688	    3 961
SWYELL14.VOC	    6 223	    6 797
SWYELL16.VOC	    5 909	    6 470
SWYELL22.VOC	    7 948	    8 276
SWYELL23.VOC	   11 967	   12 046
TAKSAN1.VOC	   36 547	   36 805
TDICK02.VOC	   30 107	   30 162
TOMB05.VOC	   26 449	   28 289
TOURN01.VOC	   30 814	   32 074
TSTICK01.VOC	   22 909	   26 088
TSTICK05.VOC	   20 487	   23 641
TSTICK07.VOC	   16 363	   19 750
TSTICK10.VOC	   20 153	   22 903
TSWORD01.VOC	   27 286	   28 156
TSWORD05.VOC	   28 048	   30 197
TSWORD08.VOC	   27 835	   30 070
WEAK03.VOC	   21 250	   22 079
WWANG11.VOC	   28 599	   29 672
YAK02.VOC	   28 181	   28 526

Another interesting thing is that both v1.0 and v1.1 of Shadow Warrior have recorded self-running demos, like most other games of the time; for some reason, those were removed in v1.2.

[MrFlibble]

I have posted more details about the differences in the early versions of Shadow Warrior in the 3D Realms' forums (with some screenshots). [Edit] Screenshots now available here.

Back to Duke3D shareware versions, it turns out that v1.3d also has skill level 0. They fixed the switch values in that version so it requires a /s0 switch to use this skill. About the registered version 1.3d I have no idea, as well as whether the registered levels actually have any items or monsters that are available throughout all skill levels, including 0, while others start with skill level 1. I think it's quite possible that since this skill level was dropped, they could've been making registered levels without regard of this skill setting.

The shareware version 1.3d also doesn't have proper botmatch, since the bot AI was either not implemented yet (DN3DHELP.EXE in v1.0 and v1.1 only mentions the fake multiplayer mode as a means of testing the maps without the need to start a real MP game) or not included in the shareware release altogether.

[Hendricks266]

Nice work on SW! Could I ask you to try out the 0.9 beta too? If you are interested, I have a version of the registered SW between 1.1 and 1.2 that was circulated within the publisher. To my knowledge, a registered SW was never released before 1.2, much like Duke 3D's v1.3D.

Don't post about either of these on 3DR's forums because it will be deleted posthaste.

[MrFlibble]

I've posted some more screenshots from v1.0 at 3DR forums, showing the broken lamp sprites that are used in level 1 in v1.2 among other things. For some reason, there doesn't seem to be any destructible lamps in any of the levels, unlike Duke3D, and all broken ones are just pre-placed in a level. This is sorta weird, because many other parts of environment like computer panels, vending and banking machines, pachinko arcade machines etc. can all be broken.

Hendricks266, on 03 February 2013 - 01:24 AM, said:

Could I ask you to try out the 0.9 beta too?

I remember playing the beta version a bit some time ago (it didn't want to work properly at first so I had to launch it by loading the first level from the command line), but I have deleted it since. One thing I remember very clearly is that the staring location in level 1 and the secret room that is near the gold key (and is a reference to the secret apartment in Duke3D's E1L1) were swapped. Also, you can't switch between single and dual UZIs once you pick the second one, just like in v1.0/1.1. Another thing, IIRC, the fists are on button 1, while the katana and the shurikens share button 2. The fist attack also includes the animation of Duke's mighty foot, albeit in brown pants, and the animation of Lo Wang striking with his palm (this one) is used along with the animation of him hitting with close fists (as in the regular versions). There's a clip of Lo Wang saying "Come get some!" (I suppose it's COMEGET2.VOC from your list), which is used rather frequently as a random attack sound, however it was removed from v1.0 onwards.

Now I'm not sure about levels 2 and 3, but level 4 in the beta certainly is very different from v1.0*. For starters, the dojo area apparently was supposed to be the boss battle arena (I haven't completed that level so I can't tell for sure), and the sign says "Dojo of the Sumo" instead of "Dojo of the Serpent", which might suggest that the sumo boss was in fact intended for the shareware episode. IIRC you start somewhere in the dark woods area and you're supposed to get inside the dojo building to proceed.

I also remember that level 3 is called "Temple of the Anime", but its general layout doesn't seem to have changed a lot compared to the beta version.

Level 2 - can't remember but the level name is also somehow different - starts you in a different location, already outside the collapsed tunnel. I think it might be the same location as one of the starting locations for the multiplayer mode (available with the -commbat# switch).

If I get around to play the beta more, I'll sure check what other differences there might be.

Hendricks266, on 03 February 2013 - 01:24 AM, said:

If you are interested, I have a version of the registered SW between 1.1 and 1.2 that was circulated within the publisher.

Nice to know you have such a rare historical version However, since I don't own registered SW, I don't think it would be appropriate for me to have anything to do with it. One question though, since you said it's between v1.1 and v1.2, what version number does it actually report?

BTW, do you perchance have the shareware CD version of SW? I wonder what version that release could be (CD audio issues are already mentioned in v1.0's SWHELP.EXE, but those could easily be leftovers from the registered Duke3D's help file).

*That is, unless I screwed something up and was actually loading levels in fake multiplayer mode; I played the beta quite a while ago, but now I think that maybe level 4 as I remember it was more or less similar to what you get if you load it in v1.0 and higher with the -commbat# switch.

[Hendricks266]

MrFlibble, on 03 February 2013 - 07:17 AM, said:

Nice to know you have such a rare historical version However, since I don't own registered SW, I don't think it would be appropriate for me to have anything to do with it. One question though, since you said it's between v1.1 and v1.2, what version number does it actually report?

                          SHADOW WARRIOR(tm) Version 1.2                      
                    Copyright (c) 1997 3D Realms Entertainment                

              This is a version of Shadow Warrior(tm) supplied to 
                      Shel Mann/Wizard Works 8/10/97.

                           DO NOT DISTRIBUTE!

                      <Press any key to continue> 

1997-04-03  11:53 AM        40,495,207 sw_r09b.grp
1997-05-13  12:00 PM        25,702,245 sw_s10.grp
1997-05-26  12:10 PM        25,833,456 sw_s11.grp
1997-08-10  05:01 PM        47,539,335 sw_r12pre.grp
1997-08-25  12:20 PM        26,056,769 sw_s12.grp
1997-08-25  12:20 PM        47,536,148 sw.grp
1997-08-25  07:20 AM        47,536,148 sw_r12uk.grp
1997-09-11  03:05 PM        26,056,769 sw_smac.grp
1998-01-28  09:43 AM        48,698,128 wt.grp

Compare sw_r12pre.grp to sw.grp (r 1.2).

MrFlibble, on 03 February 2013 - 07:17 AM, said:

BTW, do you perchance have the shareware CD version of SW? I wonder what version that release could be (CD audio issues are already mentioned in v1.0's SWHELP.EXE, but those could easily be leftovers from the registered Duke3D's help file).

I don't have this CD, but I would suggest asking Litude, a 3DR forumgoer.

[MrFlibble]

I've mentioned previously that v1.0 and v1.1 of SW shareware didn't work in DOSBox for me (and other users as well), but recently zirkoni at Abandonia Forums has very kindly notified me that they actually work with the recent builds of Taewoong's DOSBox and with DOSBox-X.

One more thing I have remembered about the SW beta is that instead of the Koi pond area in level 1 there's a complex room-over-room structure (IIRC it has three floors one over another) that caused a serious drop in framerate even in 320x200 resolution. I'm not sure, but it has some kind of a fountain at the bottom level (which replaces the underwater part of the pool), and a ramp that leads to the upper level, although I'm not sure from where exactly. Maybe some rooms that remain in the final version of this map have also switched places to allow for this. The bottom part probably was connected to the diner area, or maybe to one of the lower luggage transport belt areas (where the remote control for the microcar is located).

Hendricks266, on 03 February 2013 - 07:26 AM, said:

1998-01-28  09:43 AM        48,698,128 wt.grp

Hmm, and what's the wt.grp? Wal-Mart version?

[Hendricks266]

Wanton Destruction. The freeware release came as a completely functional independent GRP.

[Fox]

I have been doing to research about how the RPG damage is calculated.

The RPG actor will have an .extra that ranges from 140 to 147. If the value of RPGBLASTRADIUS is set to zero, then the damage will equal the .extra times two minus one (range from 279 to 293). However it is a bit more complicated since RPGBLASTRADIUS doesn't equal zero, and the damage also varies depending of the .clipdist of the actor that receives the damage.

From the tests I have performed, if the actor has a .clipdist of 0 the damage will range from 140 to 293, and if he .clipdist is at the limit of 255 it will range from 70 to 220. For most of the enemies the default .clipdist is 80 and the damage range from 140 to 220 if auto-aiming is on, and from 140 to 293 if it is turned off. For big bosses which .clipdist is 164, the damage is beetween 140 and 220 with auto-aim and 70-220 without it.

So it is all confusing. I guess it could be said that the damage ranges from 70 to 293 in general, although it varies from enemy to enemy and I am not sure about how to calculate the average damage. The mean damage is 180 with auto-aim, and 181 without it. I guess that makes sense since it takes about six RPG shots to kill a Battlelord Sentry.

[MrFlibble]

Another thing I remembered about the SW beta is that the video screen on level 1 that shows the micro racing cars area doesn't work in a particularly spectacular way, corrupting the entire game screen as soon as you approach it. This makes guiding the car with the silver key to the prizes slot impossible, and for that reason the level has the platform area entrance from the end of the tracks open from the start, so you can actually complete the level as soon as you find the gold key.

I also think that the room-over-room section I mentioned above that was replaced with the Koi pond in v1.0 actually goes two storeys down from the area near the lobby. I also remember the design gave me the impression of a more realistic environment, but it was probably scrapped because the ROR structure negatively affected game performance.

[High Treason]

Whilst poking around with the data for DNF, I discovered some things hiding in the smacker textures, you might not be able to see them as my server keeps overheating right now;


This one is titled "Menu_Nuke_Saving_Data" - maybe for a Save Game feature we didn't get? I may upload the PNGs of these in the resources thread.


A higher resolution menu nuke thing; Menu_Rotating_Nuke I believe this one is normally used;

(An animated flag of the USA, see video)
MenuBkgrdFlag - don't think this is used


rpgdisplay (1-3) - something to do with the RPG, heat seeking?


rpgdisplay_armed - Nuke, ala Shadow Warrior? I want it and I want it now!


tripminedisplay - Perhaps they were going to have different modes once?

I also found some alternate versions of the logo like this;

There's a low-res version with less stars on the flag, more on this later.

Edit 2: Here are all the smacker textures (except four from Capture the Babe) in one video;


Things to note;
> The computer screens state the height of the aliens among other things, this interests me as I have never seen detailed profiles of Duke's enemies like this.
> Possible tribute to Allen H. Blum III in news broadcast (the scroller at the bottom)?
> Blood also used Smacker Textures, hence the cutscenes in that game have the .SMK extension. In DNF they use the .BIK extension.

[Fox]

Duke Nukem and Doom scale comparison, assuming Duke Nukem and the Space Marine are 1.93m and 1.75m tall respectively.

[Lunick]

High Treason, the rotating Nuke logo is used in the Console versions of the game to show a checkpoint save.

The nuke is actually in the game somewhere, saw a YouTube video on it.

[Mark]

After searching through a bunch of my older backups I can't seem to find a certain Grabbag mix. It was the first heavy metal version I heard. This was way before the Vertexguy or Megadeth versions. For some reason the name Zebra comes to mind as the author of the song. I don't remember if that was a band name or personal name. Is there anyone out here with a comprehensive Grabbag collection that can help find this one again? I have searched the internet for the last couple of years and haven't been able to find it again.

[MusicallyInspired]

Is it none of these?

[Mark]

Nope, not there. But I did find another version I remembered liking a lot at the time by Grospixels. The one I'm after was from way back when I was Duking in the late 90's. It was a pretty solid, straightforward copy of the song without a lot of embellishments. But because it was the first remake I heard I was impressed.

[Fox]

The many stages of Duke Nukem 64 development:

First version - It appears to be just an engine test. It is close to the PC version, and there is some light effects similar to the Saturn version.



Second version - The HUD already resemble Duke Nukem 64.



Third version - The weapons have been completely redrawn.



Fourth version - The ammo and inventory displays in the HUD now use a new font.



Fifth version - The HUD left bar has been slightly modified. The difference from the final release the health display is aligned to the left.

[Jimmy]

I like the original Health part of the HUD with the cross more than the final version.

[Fox]

I also enjoy it, but I guess they choose to go with clarity. There isn't that much of contrast in a cyan font and a silver background, especially in a blurry TV.

[Fox]

In Duke Nukem 64, there is a left-over Tank spawn in Area 51, though the enemy is not actually present in the ROM.



I wonder how I should deal with that in the mod...? I guess I should just ignore it.

Spoiler

[Gambini]

I´m a picky perfectionist when it comes to recreating things. I would put the spawn star, just like in the game you´re recreating. It doesn´t make sense, but it didn´t make sense back then either.

[Jimmy]

I would add it back in but only for higher difficulties. I think this is one time where being perfect with the recreation is silly.

[Player Lin]

Captain Awesome, on 22 February 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

I think this is one time where being perfect with the recreation is silly.

Hmm, for some reasons, I agree this. If you want perfection of Duke 64 feel, play on emulator may be better than this ported TC/mod.

Or, made an eduke64(?) port or something...like the Doom64EX port for DooM64.

[Jimmy]

Well in this case it's more a bug or a glitch. I don't think bugs and glitches should be perfectly recreated if they can be fixed.

[NNC]

I don't get it. That tank was actually spawned in the original game when you enter the blue key room. It was spawned along with 3 liztroops. Isn't it tagged correctly in the D64 or what?

[Fox]

The 64 level has it exactly the same as the PC, however the Tank (sprites and bits of code) has been erased from the game.

[Player Lin]

Fox, on 25 February 2013 - 03:51 AM, said:

The 64 level has it exactly the same as the PC, however the Tank (sprites and bits of code) has been erased from the game.

If they never appeared/existed from the original N64 game, so it's not a bug. But bring it to the PC port/mod isn't bad at all.

[Jimmy]

I'd keep it. Seems more like a limitation of the engine/cart space, or maybe the sprites weren't finished yet.

[NNC]

Fox, on 25 February 2013 - 03:51 AM, said:

The 64 level has it exactly the same as the PC, however the Tank (sprites and bits of code) has been erased from the game.

Thanks for the info. Somehow I completely forgot the D64 version, because it was so hard to play with stupid controls.

[Fox]

Oddly the box of Duke Nukem 3D for the PSX and Nintendo 64 announce it as having 34 and 32 levels respectively. Actually they have 35 levels (plus 1 multiplayer) and 30 (plus 4 multiplayer) respectively. At least the PC version did it right by stating it as having 28-39 levels.

[Jimmy]

They probably didn't count secret levels.