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Metal Future 3D: Fall of Darkstar  "[For people not on the Duke4 Discord to see what's being worked on"

Poll: Metal Future 3D: Fall of Darkstar (18 member(s) have cast votes)

Was it even worth making an entirely new thread for this?

  1. I mean, sure, I guess. (9 votes [50.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  2. Maybe??? (5 votes [27.78%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.78%

  3. Get fucked, you fucking knobhead. (4 votes [22.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  4. Your mods suck. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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User is offline   DevoNukem 

#1

Coming never I mean soon (yeah right) from Slap McBald (aka. Plasmatic Software Entertainment):

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This here is going to be a thread for me to post some interesting screenshots as well as information on certain stuff in this mod.

Before doing that, however, I'd like to give you all a basic idea of what this whole thing is about and what it has. Of course, I don't have everything about it written down here.


Goal of the project

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Backstory

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The Man Standing in Their Way

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His Mission

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With some of that info out of the way, let's discuss what's in the actual mod:


Episodes and Levels

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Weapons (subject to change)

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I'll leave enemies for another time because I'm not entirely sure what I want.


Screenshots

Nothing here is final.

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Credits

SPECIAL THANKS TO ALL OF THESE GUYS:
3D Realms (the original guys, not the poseurs in charge of it nowadays)
Cage (for creating beta-styled assets)
TerminX (for posting legit pieces of beta assets on the Duke4 discord and giving me some ideas for the mod)
Hendricks266 (for also posting a few bits)
KingaAss (for inspiring me to start this project)
Jimmy (for ripping hud stuff from beta screenshots)
Triaxis (i might have used something he made. i can't remember that well cuz i've lost track of some stuff)
Oasiz (i think his analyses on lameduke might have inspired me in some way. again, can't remember)
Aleks, Sangman, Futuretime23, and several others on the Duke4 Discord (for being very supportive of the project)
Phredreeke (plz stop sending me ai generated garbage)
Lezing (creator of extclut)
Lunick (for putting bits of prototype content on his tumblr blog, duke3dmaps.tumblr.com)
Jet Nick (he ripped something from a beta screenshot and now i'm making use of it)

NO THANKS TO:
Warrenkprince92 (STOP STEALING MY SHIT)
BRYAN2000
Frederik Schreiber

No, I'm not putting Gearbox on that list. That would be cliche.


Stay tuned. There is more information to come... I hope.
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User is online   Danukem 

  • Duke Plus Developer

#2

Unless you are one of those people with rock solid and consistent internal motivation and work ethic, I recommend that you do periodic releases at development milestones, with each one being playable and including a new map. 95% of announcement like this end up being unfinished and unreleased (or end up with a partial release many years later with the developer admitting they will never finish it).
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User is offline   DevoNukem 

#3

View PostDanukem, on 04 September 2022 - 01:07 PM, said:

Unless you are one of those people with rock solid and consistent internal motivation and work ethic, I recommend that you do periodic releases at development milestones, with each one being playable and including a new map. 95% of announcement like this end up being unfinished and unreleased (or end up with a partial release many years later with the developer admitting they will never finish it).


I might consider releasing a one-map demo. Then, with each update, a new map is added (or perhaps, an existing one is updated if i'm disappointed with something). Not sure how well that will go, but it's worth a try.
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User is online   Danukem 

  • Duke Plus Developer

#4

View PostGrinman Gore, on 04 September 2022 - 01:15 PM, said:

I might consider releasing a one-map demo. Then, with each update, a new map is added (or perhaps, an existing one is updated if i'm disappointed with something). Not sure how well that will go, but it's worth a try.


Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Most of your motivation needs to be internal, but getting some feedback along the way is crucial when you are going it alone. Unless, of course, you are one of those freaks who can just work alone for a long time and keep motivated. They do exist.
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User is offline   Mike Norvak 

  • Music Producer

#5

View PostDanukem, on 04 September 2022 - 01:07 PM, said:

Unless you are one of those people with rock solid and consistent internal motivation and work ethic, I recommend that you do periodic releases at development milestones, with each one being playable and including a new map. 95% of announcement like this end up being unfinished and unreleased (or end up with a partial release many years later with the developer admitting they will never finish it).


🙋🏻‍♂️
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User is offline   Phredreeke 

#6

View PostGrinman Gore, on 04 September 2022 - 10:05 AM, said:

Phredreeke (plz stop sending me ai generated garbage)'


:lol:
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User is offline   OpenMaw 

  • Judge Mental

#7

This just makes me think of all the conversions from 20 years ago that never saw the light of day.

I actually miss those days quite a bit. Everyone was young and so full of naive enthusiasm to make the "biggest bestest thing evarrrr"
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User is offline   Phredreeke 

#8

Which episode will have "Femboy Harem" as its secret level?
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User is offline   DevoNukem 

#9

View PostPhredreeke, on 14 September 2022 - 03:07 PM, said:

Which episode will have "Femboy Harem" as its secret level?

Episode 5... which doesn't exist and never will :dukinuki:
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User is offline   DevoNukem 

#10

I didn't want to make this post here but I'm not too keen on getting harassed by psychos over prototypes I don't have. By the way, go fuck yourself for that, Mark Kaminari. Fuckin psycho.

Earlier today, the aforementioned Kaminari dude accused me of having all the Duke prototypes from 94 and 95. Thing is, I fucking don't. His "evidence" was a website that's not even mine (IT'S BETA BRYAN'S OLD WEBSITE) and this thread... or well, shitty phone screenshots of it. Later on, he went onto the Discord server of Hidden Palace and said shit about me and the "betas" I apparently own (bullshit), and in fear of getting potentially fucked in the ass royally over the net (maybe getting blacklisted by hidden palace, eh, idk), I went in there and called him a liar.

Another thing worth noting... one of the goals of this project is to recreate the inaccessible prototypes. If they were made accessible years ago when nu3DR were doing their thing, then this project wouldn't exist in the exact same form.

Moral of the story, don't be like him.
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User is offline   VGames 

#11

Dang Mark K gets around lol
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User is offline   DevoNukem 

#12

UPDATE AFTER SEVEN CENTURIES

At this point I'm not really sure where this mod's going. Development's slow (because i'm an unmotivated retard); it happens in short bursts... a lot has changed in said bursts though. I'm using Marcolino's Legacy Mod as a base, and I'm going for the rawest art direction I can think of: A mix of April, October, and late December 1994. Why? There's a certain charm to it. Not the best, but it's something kinda refreshing in a way, especially since most beta mods I know of are horrid bastardizations of May 95 in some way Hi mark kaminari and warren k prince, your mods fucking suck.


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Wow, I can't wait to see how this stuff looks in seven more centuries!
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User is online   NightFright 

  • The Truth is in here

#13

Release a demo ASAP, that's my advice. The praise you'll undoubtedly receive for it is going to give you a motivation boost. And if reviews are rather critical, at least you know what needs to be adjusted before you take it too far.

Personally I still believe the concept of this project is pretty cool. Always wanted to play some sort of Lame Duke in a way that's actually enjoyable.

This post has been edited by NightFright: 11 July 2023 - 02:33 PM

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User is offline   DevoNukem 

#14

View PostNightFright, on 11 July 2023 - 02:30 PM, said:

Release a demo ASAP, that's my advice. The praise you'll undoubtedly receive for it is going to give you a motivation boost. And if reviews are rather critical, at least you know what needs to be adjusted before you take it too far.

Personally I still believe the concept of this project is pretty cool. Always wanted to play some sort of Lame Duke in a way that's actually enjoyable.


I'm not quite sure if there's enough to make a demo of some sort. And even if there was, I'm rather worried about putting it online because of people like Warren K. Prince, who has repeatedly stolen content from an earlier incarnation of the mod I put online and later regretted.

Still, I'll consider it.
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User is offline   Aleks 

#15

View PostBeware of Frandy Notcum, on 12 July 2023 - 12:12 AM, said:

I'm not quite sure if there's enough to make a demo of some sort. And even if there was, I'm rather worried about putting it online because of people like Warren K. Prince, who has repeatedly stolen content from an earlier incarnation of the mod I put online and later regretted.

Still, I'll consider it.

In this case, you could probably share it with some people for beta-testing instead of a public release, to get some idea on where you are.
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User is offline   DevoNukem 

#16

Small progress report: Textures in M1, one of two levels in the upcoming demo, are almost fully Alt-C'd. No working enemies yet.

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User is offline   DevoNukem 

#17

Uhh... oh dear, what's happened to the project now?

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User is offline   DevoNukem 

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For once, there's some actual functionality to speak of instead of something hackish. It cost the project some of its authenticity, but eh.


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User is online   NightFright 

  • The Truth is in here

#19

That statusbar is definitely something. Digging the minimalistic style!
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User is offline   MrFlibble 

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View PostBeware of Frandy Notcum, on 18 March 2024 - 04:25 PM, said:

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For once, there's some actual functionality to speak of instead of something hackish. It cost the project some of its authenticity, but eh.

That screenshot looks good as a whole too, could be quite at home among the actual pre-release shots from 1995.
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User is offline   DevoNukem 

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It's beta, but is it betta? Hard to say.
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User is offline   DevoNukem 

#22

Come get some keycards.

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User is offline   Ninety-Six 

#23

So why the engine switch?
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User is offline   DevoNukem 

#24

There's a lot that I wanted in the original Build version that I just couldn't add without it being incredibly hackish. I wanted a more straightforward developing experience, and though GZDoom suffers from its own quirks I could seriously do without (Fuck you Graf, by the way), it's been doing a good job at providing that for the most part.

All that being said, I still don't feel too good about compromising on the project's authenticity like this. It wasn't an easy decision.
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User is offline   Perro Seco 

#25

View PostDevoNukem, on 18 April 2024 - 02:12 PM, said:

There's a lot that I wanted in the original Build version that I just couldn't add without it being incredibly hackish. I wanted a more straightforward developing experience, and though GZDoom suffers from its own quirks I could seriously do without (Fuck you Graf, by the way), it's been doing a good job at providing that for the most part.

All that being said, I still don't feel too good about compromising on the project's authenticity like this. It wasn't an easy decision.
Will it work on ZDoom too?

Yeah, a bit sad to leave Build aside, even more when the screenshots, despite looking better and better, don't seem to show nothing really difficult to implement within EDuke32. Which tools do you use to make your Doom mod? I've been always curious to know how easier is to make these things in Doom compared with Duke 3D.
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User is offline   Ninety-Six 

#26

View PostDevoNukem, on 18 April 2024 - 02:12 PM, said:

There's a lot that I wanted in the original Build version that I just couldn't add without it being incredibly hackish. I wanted a more straightforward developing experience, and though GZDoom suffers from its own quirks I could seriously do without (Fuck you Graf, by the way), it's been doing a good job at providing that for the most part.


Fair enough.
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