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Jesus Christ, on 29 July 2021 - 01:50 PM, said:

Never let them take your guns, seriously. I am 30 years old and it started hitting me last year how vital it is that citizen's stay armed.

Washington state just passed HB 1310 where law enforcement officers can only make arrests on the grounds of "probable cause" instead of "reasonable suspicion".
When they show up at a random crime scene, don't know who the victim is, don't know who the alleged suspect is, don't know the motivation or reason behind the crime, they have to walk away.

[Jimmy]

I'm okay with that actually. This country was founded on the idea that it's better 100 criminals run free than one innocent man rot in prison. If you want to live in a police state move to literally any other country.

[Danukem]

How do you even detain someone long enough for questioning so that you can carry out an investigation though.

[jkas789]

Aleks, on 29 July 2021 - 12:11 AM, said:

Kinda pleased with my mark of the beast here, although I was hoping I'd also get a tattoo along with the jab. Also the possibility to make payments with blood still isn't enabled in most shops around here, hopefully they get it fixed soon, would spare a lot of room not having to carry the wallet around all the time.

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Which vaccine did you go with? I feel like I'll be compelled to do the same soon. Vaccine passports are becoming a thing. Europe, everyone.

Not sure if this is a genuine question. but if it is, I would go (and I did actually chose it) for pfizer.

I think, and this is something I have mentioned both in the Discord and here, that people are missing the forest for the trees.

The problem IMO is not the vaccine. The problem is everyone and their mother focusing so much on the fucking vaccine, to the point it has become political. When we all seem to forget that prevention in medicine is only one part of the equation. As I said to MBlackwell yesterday on offtopic in the discord (with a little editing to make it readable):

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...Again, in the sense that we have very few if existing ambulatory treatments.

This is the first time in maybe half a century were we have a disease were when somebody has covid.

We tell them to go home, maybe give them something for the symptoms and tell them to spin the roulette and sit with their thumbs on their asses.

Well maybe not the first disease, because hiv and aids but you get my point. This is not the flu.

...Medicine is part preventive and part being able to treat shit. But part of preventive actions is not letting mild cases end in intubated patients

Anyways, my point is, the disease is staying, and it will mutate as all infectious diseases do.

I just don’t want people to only bank on the vaccines then repeat the same dance over and over again every time we have a new variant. That is not good medicine. We don’t rely on silver bullets.

And I honestly stand by that. Vaccines are only part of the arsenal. For whatever reason, the authorities have been half assing this. And this worries me.

EDIT: Just to be super clear. To this day there are still (AFAIK) no guidelines to ambulatory treatment (that is not focused on treating the symptoms) past what Doctor McCullough and his team in the USA have managed to scrap toguether. This is insane. And criminal.

[Aristotle Gumball]

jkas789, on 30 July 2021 - 05:15 PM, said:

EDIT: Just to be super clear. To this day there are still (AFAIK) no guidelines to ambulatory treatment (that is not focused on treating the symptoms) past what Doctor McCullough and his team in the USA have managed to scrap toguether. This is insane. And criminal.

Crime of the century, maybe. They use Ivermectin as a prophylactic.

[Aleks]

jkas789, on 30 July 2021 - 05:15 PM, said:

Not sure if this is a genuine question. but if it is, I would go (and I did actually chose it) for pfizer.

I got Pfizer too, had a slight fever the night after 2nd dose, but that's about it (and seems most younger people end up like that, which I guess just means our immune system does the job properly). Good to see this choice being also backed-up by a Real Doctor™

Agree with the rest of Jkas' post. Furthermore, people tend to act like they believe the vaccine will stop them from being infected, which of course it isn't - it will just turn your symptoms to milder ones (which seems to be working - I personally know a woman in her 70s with Parkinson's disease whose COVID infection ended up just like a mild cold).

[Aristotle Gumball]

Aleks, on 31 July 2021 - 02:20 AM, said:

backed-up by a Real Doctor™

I respect his opinion, but he's not a virologist/vaccine researcher.

https://www.reddit.c...ubbed_from_the/

Robert Malone was considered to be one of the inventors of the mRNA vaccine and thought there was a serious possibility that the COVID mRNA vaccines posed a danger. Yes, I've seen the counter arguments, but I am not convinced.

I'd rather go with J&J and take my chances with the blood clots.

Edit: was looking for this clip and found Youtube had deleted it. What a fucking surprise. How much testing was done on these vaccines.

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Danukem, on 30 July 2021 - 11:38 AM, said:

How do you even detain someone long enough for questioning so that you can carry out an investigation though.

They don't.

An example happened in Puyallup the other day. Police responded to a shooting in a store parking lot. They arrived to find a deceased victim, and the description of an unknown perpetrator wearing dark clothes and running from the scene. The police didn't immediately know who the victim was due to lack of identification. They didn't know who the shooter was. They didn't know why the shooting occurred. Reasonable suspicion isn't enough to hunt down and detain a possible murder suspect. They called for somebody to come collect the body and then left. The end.

The citizenry are going to have to rely on themselves to protect themselves and their property. Even while the government is removing law enforcement, opening the southern border to the free flow of traffic for criminal elements, and pushing policies to erase the second amendment.

[Aristotle Gumball]

Forge, on 31 July 2021 - 05:40 AM, said:

The citizenry are going to have to rely on themselves to protect themselves and their property. Even while the government is removing law enforcement, opening the southern border to the free flow of traffic for criminal elements, and pushing policies to erase the second amendment.

This is all they want. What they don't want is armed resistance that is widespread. They need compliance. Idiots will say "if your leaders wanted to take your guns tomorrow, they could". Yes, but at what cost? They need us as slaves, but they also need us to think it's for our own good so we still show up to our jobs, hence all the brainwashing which gets pretty crazy in the states. They do less of it inside the EU because people already are powerless. Yanis Varoufakis (look him up, I'm not gonna get into it) uncovered how the EU is run essentially like the fucking Soviet Union was. Look up the book and film "Adults in the Room". The US might actually be one of the few free countries still in existence, and it almost completely isn't anymore.

[Forge]

normies shouldn't want the police in their current form removed (as shitty as it is)
crime will get so bad that the sheeple will demand their protection be brought back, but the criminal elements will be well established and well armed. Their "new police" will be a paramilitary strong-arm of the government. Get ready for door kick-ins due to wrong-think.

it's one thing when antifa calls you a racist for defending free speech, knocks over your mail box, and throws rocks through your window. It's another when the government shows up to declare you subversive terrorist for making a racist joke, and 'disappears" you to a 're-education' camp where you learn to concentrate.

[Aristotle Gumball]

You've predicted the future in the US as I see it as well. It's weird to think that it could happen if you never had it happen before. Where I live, an Orwellian dystopia actually happened, and lasted about 70 years. No one came to the rescue. We were all alone. That's cold hard reality.

[ck3D]

https://www.washingt...-mask-guidance/

"The CDC declined to comment."

[jkas789]

Jesus Christ, on 31 July 2021 - 12:53 AM, said:

Crime of the century, maybe. They use Ivermectin as a prophylactic.

I know, I have used it myself when I was forced to work as a gp in the public sector. But Ivermectin is used empirically not as part as an official guideline broadly globally AFAIK. The well has been so poisoned that at least were i work people:

a.- scoff at using it
b.- use it as a hail mary

https://www.covid19t...ral-management/

https://www.covid19t...tic-management/

Sure the recommended tx is either Casirivimab + imdevimab or Sotrovimab, but good luck getting that.

The rest is controlling symptomatology. Which is as we mexicans say "una mentada de madre".

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I respect his opinion, but he's not a virologist/vaccine researcher.

Fair enough.

[Aristotle Gumball]

ck3D, on 31 July 2021 - 02:14 PM, said:

https://www.washingt...-mask-guidance/

"The CDC declined to comment."

“It’s hard to do, but I think we have to become comfortable with coronavirus not going away.”

Get fucked!

I moved temporarily to a family members country home. One of the benefits of my job is I can be anywhere with an internet connection. Not coming back until this shit is officially over. Tbh I have kind of a shit immune system and even the common cold can fuck me up. I don't care about dying, but I do care about dying from a Chinese virus or big pharma. My pride won't allow it.

[jkas789]

Jesus Christ, on 01 August 2021 - 12:13 AM, said:

“It’s hard to do, but I think we have to become comfortable with coronavirus not going away.”

Get fucked!

I moved temporarily to a family members country home. One of the benefits of my job is I can be anywhere with an internet connection. Not coming back until this shit is officially over. Tbh I have kind of a shit immune system and even the common cold can fuck me up. I don't care about dying, but I do care about dying from a Chinese virus or big pharma. My pride won't allow it.

It is not going away though. This genie is not going back into the bottle.

[Forge]

dealing with the chinese bat flu is one thing
dealing with governments using it to make money and control populations with an iron fist is another

[Aleks]

jkas789, on 01 August 2021 - 09:17 AM, said:

It is not going away though. This genie is not going back into the bottle.

Same as Spanish flu didn't really go away - just mutated into much less lethal variants, while population developed herd immunity. Hopefully we'll see the same happening with COVID-19.

[Aristotle Gumball]

jkas789, on 01 August 2021 - 09:17 AM, said:

It is not going away though. This genie is not going back into the bottle.

What do you think is going to happen, realistically? Tell me your vision of the next 5 years.

[Jimmy]

Covid literally is just a cold lmao

[jkas789]

Jesus Christ, on 01 August 2021 - 11:22 AM, said:

What do you think is going to happen, realistically? Tell me your vision of the next 5 years.

What will happen with the virus medically?

Pretty much what Aleks said. Everyone and their mother will get vaccinated (or at least most of the population), we will eventually have some type of ambulatory treatment and the virus will mutate to be weaker. Eventually this will be another RTD that GPs, medical internists and EDs will have to contend with on a daily basis.

As I have posted before.

What I think will happen on the government level of the equation?

A whole lot of pork laws will be passed and health issues will be increasingly becoming even more political, there will be an increase in social divisions and we will all be fucked even more by China.

Take the black pill people, the Fabians played the long game and they won to the detriment of the west.

Spoiler

jk, or am I?!

[Ninety-Six]

jkas789, on 01 August 2021 - 04:57 PM, said:

What will happen with the virus medically?

Pretty much what Aleks said. Everyone and their mother will get vaccinated (or at least most of the population), we will eventually have some type of ambulatory treatment and the virus will mutate to be weaker. Eventually this will be another RTD that GPs, medical internists and EDs will have to contend with on a daily basis.

As I have posted before.

What I think will happen on the government level of the equation?

A whole lot of pork laws will be passed and health issues will be increasingly become even more political, there will be an increase in social divisions and we will all be fucked even more by China.

Take the black pill people, the Fabians played the long game and they won to the detriment of the west.

Spoiler

jk, or am I?!

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[Forge]

[Aristotle Gumball]

[Avenger]

https://newtube.app/...tZvMC9IfU6otAZU

[Aristotle Gumball]

This is beautiful poetry: https://expressiveeg...that-never-was/

"It is true, now the world has been converted into a locked-down supermax in which we are supposed to only interact with each other through centrally controlled viddy-screens, that what little we had left of culture, freedom, sensate human life and, for the poor, the capacity to cling by the fingernails to the shadow of life for a few more uncomfortable moments have all been, or are about to be, extinguished completely; and it is true that the largely Huxleyan dystopia we lived in a few months ago is removing its mask to reveal a largely Orwellian dystopia; it is certainly true that those who allowed and continue to allow all this to happen are submissive cowards; and it is true that all this is horrendous. But it is not true that life in 2019 was normal, and it is not true that we need to get back to this ‘normal’ world.

Because it is not normal to live in a world of concrete cubes plastered over with exhortations to acquire products that will poison you. It is not normal to squeeze together in a vast drugged mass to passively consume a centrally managed hyper-stimulating spectacle. It is not normal to have nothing to do with the wild outside of a few days strolling round a park. It is not normal to have nothing to do with your neighbours, to live far from your family, in fact far from all the things you need, only able to reach them by engaging in a slow, exhausting, crawl along poisoned alleyways trapped in a little metal box. And it is not normal to be forced into total domesticated dependency on an immense technocratic system for your every need; for your food, your health, your security, for the upkeep of your dwelling and the stability of your mind."

Even if you disagree with the authors conclusions at the end, you can't help but admire the passion.

[Forge]

[Avenger]

[Forge]

Meanwhile in the U.S.; the people that influence and make policies.

Wewelsburg Castle, August 1941, colorized


(Herr Obama)


Obersalzberg, Berchtesgaden, August 1941, colorized


(Countess Tlaib)


Rules apply to thee, not to me.