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The Coronavirus a/k/a COVID-19 corner.

User is offline   Aristotle Gumball 

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#661

Re: your alt. I just thought it sounded sort of Finnish.

This post has been edited by Jesus Christ: 02 June 2021 - 12:52 AM

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User is offline   Aristotle Gumball 

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Was streamed yesterday.

"On this very special live broadcast of the DarkHorse podcast, Dr. Bret Weinstein (Ph.D) and Dr. Pierre Kory (M.D.) will discuss the ongoing pandemic, the care of COVID-19 patients, and the incredible story of Ivermectin."
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User is offline   Forge 

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#663

everyone should go get their mark of the beast so they can travel and do commerce with the rest of the world.

here's to hoping the quack is right and vaccines will actually make things worse.
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User is offline   Jimmy 

  • Let's go Brandon!

#664

View PostDanukem, on 01 June 2021 - 10:45 PM, said:

Well at least Jimmy finally admits that Trump is a retard.

He will be now.

View Postjkas789, on 02 June 2021 - 12:28 AM, said:

IMO the vaccines themselves and how they work are not bad. The literature is pretty sound on that. What is definitely sus is how they were fast tracked while leaving other avenues of research for Covid treatment by the way side and that they were and still are used as a political hammer.

Try reading pre-pandemic literature on mRNA gene therapies.

This post has been edited by Jimmy: 02 June 2021 - 06:40 AM

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User is offline   Aristotle Gumball 

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https://www.lifesite...dangerous-toxin

“We made a big mistake. We didn’t realize it until now,” said Byram Bridle, a viral immunologist and associate professor at University of Guelph, Ontario, in an interview with Alex Pierson last Thursday, in which he warned listeners that his message was “scary.”

“We thought the spike protein was a great target antigen, we never knew the spike protein itself was a toxin and was a pathogenic protein. So by vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin,” Bridle said on the show, which is not easily found in a Google search but went viral on the internet this weekend.

Bridle, a vaccine researcher who was awarded a $230,000 government grant last year for research on COVID vaccine development, said that he and a group of international scientists filed a request for information from the Japanese regulatory agency to get access to what’s called the “biodistribution study.”

“It’s the first time ever scientists have been privy to seeing where these messenger RNA [mRNA] vaccines go after vaccination,” said Bridle. “Is it a safe assumption that it stays in the shoulder muscle? The short answer is: absolutely not. It’s very disconcerting.”
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User is offline   Danukem 

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#666

I'm posting this "debunking" page on Bridle too, for balance. Just so that you know, people do have responses to these claims. That doesn't mean that he's a crackpot, of course.

https://byrambridle.com/

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WHAT DID HE GET WRONG?
When Bridle claims “… we never knew the spike protein itself was a toxin and was a pathogenic protein. So by vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin …” he is fundamentally incorrect for multiple reasons.

First and foremost, there is no spike protein in the vaccine. But if we assume he means the spike proteins created by your cells are toxic, then he's suggesting that:

The spike protein is distributed throughout the body, and accumulates in tissues and organs.
The spike protein is inherently toxic, and is capable of damaging these tissues.
BRIDLE CLAIMS ...
... the spike protein accumulates in the spleen, in the liver, in bone marrow, and the adrenal glands ...

... the spike protein accumulates in breast milk, and in the blood.

BUT THE SPIKE PROTEIN DOES NOT ACCUMULATE THROUGHOUT THE BODY
Bridle claims he has gained access (through a FOI request to the Japanese government) to a new bio-distribution study that demonstrates (for the first time ever!) the distribution of the mRNA vaccines in the body. An image of the relevant table being circulated is presented below. This is untrue (or at least, very misleading) for several reasons.

There are exisiting bio-distribution studies.
The PMDA source document has been available publically for months, and was considered in the European Medicines Agency assessment of the vaccines.
The experiment was conducted in rats, not in humans.
The results are presented by Bridle and his proponents as to suggest the experimenters were measuring concentration and accumulation of spike protein; they were actually measuring tagged lipid-nanoparticles representing the mRNA vaccine.
There are multiple studies demonstrating the vaccine and associated antibodies don't pass through breast milk.


It goes on from there.
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User is offline   Jimmy 

  • Let's go Brandon!

#667

OOOOOOH LOOK AT ME IM DEBOOOOONKING
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User is offline   Aristotle Gumball 

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#668

It's all about trust
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User is offline   Mark 

#669

Made me laugh Jimmy.
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User is offline   jkas789 

#670

What Happens When Doctors Can't Tell the Truth?Whole areas of research are off-limits. Top physicians treat patients based on their race. An ideological 'purge' is underway in American medicine.

The sad thing is, I can believe that you gringos would actually do this shit now a days. I think it's a exaggeration but you really have to make me doubt it huh?
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User is offline   LakiSoft 

#671

My opinion is that in very beginning of it i also thought Covid-19 is propaganda and didn't wanted to wear mask at all, mostly thanks to some dubious people who believe in conspiracy theories that did some brainwash on me, but i realized i was wrong and that virus isn't that stupid than i thought in very beginning. Seriously these conspiracy theories scattered on the web deserve to banned, and no more freakin' brainwash of people Now thankfully situation with virus is getting better, at least in my country.
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User is offline   Danukem 

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#672

People who support censorship of information always ask the wrong question. They ask "Would I like it if what I regard as bad information was banned?" when they should be asking "Would it be good if the powerful get to decide which information is allowed?"

Earlier in the pandemic, Facebook banned posts which suggested that covid19 came from a laboratory. Then later they reversed that ban because *the right people* had decided that it was a plausible theory after all. Think about that.

Censorship doesn't prevent people from getting brainwashed, it just lends a hand to the particular brand of brainwashing promoted by the powerful.

If some crackpots on the internet could convince you that the virus was a hoax while hospitals were getting overwhelmed, no amount of censorship is going to fix the underlying *cognitive* problem you are facing.
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User is offline   LakiSoft 

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View PostDanukem, on 13 July 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

People who support censorship of information always ask the wrong question. They ask "Would I like it if what I regard as bad information was banned?" when they should be asking "Would it be good if the powerful get to decide which information is allowed?"

Earlier in the pandemic, Facebook banned posts which suggested that covid19 came from a laboratory. Then later they reversed that ban because *the right people* had decided that it was a plausible theory after all. Think about that.

Censorship doesn't prevent people from getting brainwashed, it just lends a hand to the particular brand of brainwashing promoted by the powerful.

If some crackpots on the internet could convince you that the virus was a hoax while hospitals were getting overwhelmed, no amount of censorship is going to fix the underlying *cognitive* problem you are facing.


Well i forgot to mention that only part of their conspiracy theories i do actually partially agree with is that this virus is made by man-hand. No viruses before didn't stood longer like this one, and it's still present. This is where i agree with them. Natural viruses never lasted more than 3 months.

But what i really fucking hate at them, is their claims that virus aren't that dangerous, and that vaccines are the ones whose mutate covid-19 to be really deadly and dangerous. And most retarded thing those dubious assholes claim that Vaccines, and entire pandemy in general, is not only staged in advance, but also that Pharmacy Industries will profit unspeakable amount of money... OH, NO SHIT SHERLOCK!

That Pharmacy Industries will profit out of this, that's true, but those fucks always forget that Covid-19 literally FUCKING RUINED other industries, factories, ruined ECONOMY ITSELF. That all is an huge amount of money being lost, trashed. Now counting an average ranked country in sense of finances, is it fucking possible that Vaccines and Pharmacy Industries no matter how much they profit, will be able TO COVER ENTIRE LOST BUDGET OF ALL OTHER INDUSTRIES TOGETHER EQUAL IN MENTIONED COUNTRY??? Of course, they NOT!

But those dubious people who think they are always right, the best, the smartest, will create shitty conspiracy theories without even one good thinked argument. Also the woman who convinced me in this bullshit was veterinarian , but she most have gotten those shits from internet. Also i agree with you @Danukem about censorship will not stop people to get brainwashed but man, i said that they deserve getting banned in my rage, because i am getting raged by their stupidness. Still one of most dumbest thing i ever heard aside from this mentioned, is the so called fact that even Bill Gates himself is involved in "conspiracy" with Covid-19 and Vaccines. Yes, Operating system expert and director of Microsoft, is now involved in medicine too? Man i'll kill myself because of their claims.
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User is offline   Jimmy 

  • Let's go Brandon!

#674

It's all fake.

Also, you're severely misinformed. Bill Gates is openly involved in vaccines, and is probably the most outspoken proponent of vaccines worldwide. This isn't a conspiracy, he goes on day time talk shows to shill his vaccines.

This post has been edited by Jimmy: 13 July 2021 - 04:51 PM

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User is offline   mike_s 

#675

21 pages about COVID????

Man and to think this is a community of Duke Nukem, gaming and hardware, and I see a 21 page thread on covid. Man.....

My thoughts

I'm from Ontario Canada. At the beginning, Premier Doug Ford wanted just two weeks to "flatten the curve". After weeks, months, and even seasons later, the situation has NOT been solved. So its obvious that things with this COVID are questionable. I'll tell you whats questionable and why.

Social Distancing

Really? If people kept distancing themselves from one another all the time, then how could people really love one another? Digital doesn't solve everything. In fact, digital content can be modified.

Masks

In Ontario, Masks were mandated about 4 months AFTER the start of covid season. It would make more sense to mandate it right when covid season started! But why 4 months later? I'm pretty sure the government has money to do express shipment of masks but they didn't. What's worse... they never mailed any to the people, nor told anyone which mask is best and why.
Some people think masks are wonderful to the point where they wear them OUTSIDE.
Others just put them on to be accepted into stores.
There are people like me who think about their health 100% and that recognize their needs of their body 100%, and for this reason, are exempt from wearing a mask. After all, people need oxygen to survive and many masks (when worn the way your local authorities want you to wear them) can block or limit oxygen flow because of the threading that separates your nose/mouth from the air. I'm happy to report that many stores respect this however there are one or two that don't. Don't get me wrong. If some people feel a mask makes them feel better, then they can wear as many layers of masks as they want. I'll think of them as ridiculous but I never create a fight.
If I just shocked people about exemptions, then please go to your local city website and you will find some article about their mask bylaw. Have a good read of it and you will find a section about exemptions.

Cases

Local news (which family watches and I sometimes overhear) likes to state that there are x cases of covid. However, its never clear to the average person what exactly a "case" is. What happens if another illness qualifies as a "case"? and if there were thousands of cases, I can never understand why I don't see tons of ambulances racing to pick up the people that have the so-called "deadly" virus for instant treatment, because the staying at home for self-isolation is no way of caring for an emergency issue.

The Jab

The governments say the jab helps you, but does it really? Let's think about it. First, consider the ingredients that may go in your body and think about how each ingredient interacts with your body. Then on top of that, consider that the health people are not held responsibly if something drastic happens to you. What's even crazier is that there really is no benefit to the jab considering that I see no in-person proof that covid is even deadly.

That's my ranting for the night on COVID. People can agree or disagree with me, and whatever you do to your body is up to you. I won't intervene. But please don't bash me if something drastic happens to you.
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User is offline   LakiSoft 

#676

View PostJimmy, on 13 July 2021 - 04:49 PM, said:

It's all fake.

Also, you're severely misinformed. Bill Gates is openly involved in vaccines, and is probably the most outspoken proponent of vaccines worldwide. This isn't a conspiracy, he goes on day time talk shows to shill his vaccines.


Let's theoretically say you are right about Bill Gates, even if i don't believe in that, but lets say you're right. This still don't change a fact of everything else i said above. I also thought everything is fake in beginning, but i realized i was wrong.
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User is offline   Jimmy 

  • Let's go Brandon!

#677

There is no theoretical. I am right. Just Google it. You're a fucking idiot, of course your opinion blows with the wind.
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User is offline   LakiSoft 

#678

If Bill Gates involved in vaccine as you claim so hard, such a important person he is, the will only give value to entire situation that virus is real as fuck. So you're just shitting inside your own mouth with such a contradiction "argument" dude. Oh and that just proves your intelligence too, bitch. You suck B)
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User is offline   Danukem 

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#679

https://mg.co.za/cor...cine-apartheid/

I think this is what is at issue regarding Bill Gates, the fact that he has strongly supported big pharma property rights to profit on vaccines they develop.

I don't understand why this has to become personal.
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User is offline   Aristotle Gumball 

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View PostDanukem, on 14 July 2021 - 11:56 AM, said:

https://mg.co.za/cor...cine-apartheid/

I think this is what is at issue regarding Bill Gates, the fact that he has strongly supported big pharma property rights to profit on vaccines they develop.

I don't understand why this has to become personal.


You're just shitting inside your own mouth with such a contradiction "argument" dude.
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User is offline   LakiSoft 

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View PostDanukem, on 14 July 2021 - 11:56 AM, said:

https://mg.co.za/cor...cine-apartheid/

I think this is what is at issue regarding Bill Gates, the fact that he has strongly supported big pharma property rights to profit on vaccines they develop.

I don't understand why this has to become personal.


This still doesn't proves Jimmy's claim that everything is fake. Also article you provided also explains about situation at Europe being worse, but they failed to mention not all European countries are like that. Example, my country Serbia, under leadership of President Vucic, has the title of country with most vaccinated people in Europe and World, along with Isreal in Asia. Serbia and Isreal are in top of people vaccinated. And Russian and Chinese vaccines ain't untested as this article claims. And Gates found a way to earn even more money but still don't proves anything Jimmy claimed about everything being fake.
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User is offline   Jimmy 

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View PostDanukem, on 14 July 2021 - 11:56 AM, said:

I don't understand why this has to become personal.

Because this person is clearly of low intelligence. I never made any argument concerning Bill Gates and Covid. I just pointed out that it's well known open fact, that literally no one in the Real True Facts™ or Tin Foil camps argues about, that Gates is the top vaccine shill in the world. He's proud of the fact. Only someone very stupid could put off such a bulldog front of intelligence while being so drastically uninformed, and proud of it too!

By the way, shitting in my own mouth is my kink and kinkshaming is against forum rules.
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User is offline   Aristotle Gumball 

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#683

If you go and see who upvotes Jimmy's posts, you will find it's the literal son of God, so case closed pretty much.

View PostJimmy, on 14 July 2021 - 10:44 AM, said:

There is no theoretical. I am right.

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User is offline   LakiSoft 

#684

View PostJesus Christ, on 14 July 2021 - 12:10 PM, said:

You're just shitting inside your own mouth with such a contradiction "argument" dude.



What's the matter, you don't have enough vaccinated people in Estonia, now truth hurts you and now everything you can do is claiming "virus is fake" and downvote me? Pathetic.

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Because this person is clearly of low intelligence. I never made any argument concerning Bill Gates and Covid. I just pointed out that it's well known open fact, that literally no one in the Real True Facts™ or Tin Foil camps argues about, that Gates is the top vaccine shill in the world. He's proud of the fact. Only someone very stupid could put off such a bulldog front of intelligence while being so drastically uninformed, and proud of it too!

By the way, shitting in my own mouth is my kink and kinkshaming is against forum rules.


I may be uninformed about Bill Gates, but you are incredibly stupid if you really think virus is fake. Yet you downvote someone just because you don't agree with that person. Shameful and pathetic.
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User is offline   Jimmy 

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#685

I never said coronaviruses are fake. I've literally had colds a dozen times in my life.
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User is offline   Aristotle Gumball 

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View PostGingis Khan, on 14 July 2021 - 12:34 PM, said:

What's the matter, you don't have enough vaccinated people in Estonia, now truth hurts you and now everything you can do is claiming "virus is fake" and downvote me? Pathetic.


You're just shitting inside your own mouth with such a contradiction "argument" dude.
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User is offline   LakiSoft 

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View PostJimmy, on 14 July 2021 - 12:48 PM, said:

I never said coronaviruses are fake. I've literally had colds a dozen times in my life.


Oh really? Then what about this?

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It's all fake.

Also, you're severely misinformed. Bill Gates is openly involved in vaccines, and is probably the most outspoken proponent of vaccines worldwide. This isn't a conspiracy, he goes on day time talk shows to shill his vaccines.


Me claiming virus is real, and you claiming virus is fake caused you to insult me, because you can't accept other people's opinion.

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You're just shitting inside your own mouth with such a contradiction "argument" dude.


My religion prevents the interruption of mental suffering.
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User is offline   Jimmy 

  • Let's go Brandon!

#688

The virus is real, the hype is all made up.
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User is offline   Danukem 

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#689

Jimmy was an early advocate for the Wuhan laboratory theory of the virus origin, so clearly he doesn't think it is fake. It's usually not the case when we say "all" that we mean everything in existence. If I look into a garage, and say "It's all junk!" I'm referring to the contents of the garage (i.e. the contents of the garage is my domain of discourse).

When someone says something like "It's all fake" you have to consider what their domain of discourse is. Does the "all" in that sentence really quantify over everything? If so then it would also be self-referencial and the statement would imply that it is itself fake. Moreover, it would imply that Jimmy and the entire universe he inhabits is fake, making further discussion about it pointless. It's much more plausible that he had in mind a more limited domain of discourse, for example maybe he was referring to the propaganda surrounding the pandemic.

EDIT: his simultaneous post verifies my theory (hype = propaganda)

This post has been edited by Danukem: 14 July 2021 - 01:06 PM

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User is offline   LakiSoft 

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View PostJimmy, on 14 July 2021 - 01:03 PM, said:

The virus is real, the hype is all made up.


So your point is that ENTIRE WORLD is doing made up hype? Man, there is no help for you. Another typical "conspiracy theory" believer.
This is exactly what i was talking about in my first posts of my topic. Are you seriously suggesting entire world is that crazy to do fake news with this? Will you negate virus or news considering it, we got to the same point of conclusion. Both are foolishness. And usually in 90% of people who claims that everything considering virus is made up hoax are against their own country and\or goverment. Anti-Patriotism, that is.
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