[Balls of Steel Forever]

Jimmy, on 01 March 2021 - 01:07 AM, said:

Imagine being so [REDACTED]

Both are pathogens.

Bacteria transmission is different.
Several things are very different.
I don't give a shit.

Covid infected countless people
So did the black plague


And it doesn't change the fact that it was a deadly pathogen.
And H5N1 is a deadly pathogen.

So therefore they can be compared.

At least I can say that I have low comprehension skills and am delusional. Unlike someone else.

Also, I only downvoted you because i upvoted thrice there on accident.
It has the same effect probably anyways.

[Aristotle Gumball]

Balls of Steel Forever, on 01 March 2021 - 02:18 AM, said:

At least I can say that I have low comprehension skills and am delusional. Unlike someone else.

Yeah, at least you've still got that!

[Balls of Steel Forever]

ImmanuelCunt, on 01 March 2021 - 03:04 AM, said:

Yeah, at least you've still got that!

It's better to be aware at least.

Can't cure being deusional.
Working on the comprehension skills.

Just, uh someone else may want to be self aware one day.
Or stop spouting such on the interwebs.
Maybe talking to people with different mindsets in a discord or something.
Get actual help. Such person knows how.
And not this closed box stuff here.

[Forge]

Jimmy, on 28 February 2021 - 02:18 AM, said:

The black plague was caused by a bacteria, not a virus. Modern sanitation has rendered bacterial "pandemics" practically irrelevant.

Also you'd have to be fucking [REDACTED] to take statistics from the Middle Ages at face value. 30% is nothing more than a guess.

for now

but judging by all the shit in the streets of San Fran, Free-attle, portland, L.A., and other progressive enclaves, the potential is there for a minor cleansing. Most of the grifters and drifters travel back and forth between those locations, so multi-state transmission is a reality.

Bacterial wraths are the way to go. The problems with a good virus is that they usually kill their host too fast to spread very far. Weaker viri have a nice transmission, but they only cull the herd.

[jkas789]

Jimmy, on 28 February 2021 - 02:18 AM, said:

The black plague was caused by a bacteria, not a virus. Modern sanitation has rendered bacterial "pandemics" practically irrelevant.

This... is not that correct. Modern hygiene methods have decreased the chances of bacterial pandemics. However bacteria have become increasingly (and worryingly) more resistant to both sanitation products and antibacterials.

There are articles of families of infectious bacteria becoming resistant to 4th gen cephalosporines, macrolides and what not.

I'm more afraid of a superbacteria pandemic than Viral pandemic honestly. The bacteria one will be IMO deadlier when it eventually happens. There is a reason humanity can't kill off tuberculosis.

[Jimmy]

The reason anti-biotic resistant bacteria exist is because the medical establishment wants to deny how effective silver is.

[ck3D]

Now we're getting vaccination centers called 'vaccinodromes' and that name fucking kills me, PR is on some TMNT shit straight up.

[Aleks]

ck3D, on 06 April 2021 - 11:46 PM, said:

Now we're getting vaccination centers called 'vaccinodromes' and that name fucking kills me, PR is on some TMNT shit straight up.

That's a vaccinating story, my friend!

[Forge]

nobody:
the united states: we want to make cohiv passports; even though you still have to wear a mask, allegedly can still catch a mutation and be a carrier, and we basically have an open southern border that catches and releases diseased people into the country

[Hank]

And Canada, that did not wave a law suit exemption, against the vaccine producers, is in full lock down, because they (Pfizer in the lead) sort of limited the supply of their Experimental Vaccine, which will be experimental until at least 2023.
The Globe and Mail, (Major Canadian News propaganda outlet) once wrote, over a year ago, 99.9% of Canadian are expected to get Covid. It became true. Covid paranoia is rampant.
If I want to fly back to Toronto, I have to have a negative Covid-Con certificate, before entering the plane, then upon arrival, get tested again, forced to stay in a ‘hotel’ on my expense for three days, followed by a 14 day quarantine.
Canada is now, officially, a totalitarian shit hole.

[Jeff]

Hank, on 07 April 2021 - 06:21 PM, said:

And Canada, that did not wave a law suit exemption, against the vaccine producers, is in full lock down, because they (Pfizer in the lead) sort of limited the supply of their Experimental Vaccine, which will be experimental until at least 2023.
The Globe and Mail, (Major Canadian News propaganda outlet) once wrote, over a year ago, 99.9% of Canadian are expected to get Covid. It became true. Covid paranoia is rampant.
If I want to fly back to Toronto, I have to have a negative Covid-Con certificate, before entering the plane, then upon arrival, get tested again, forced to stay in a ‘hotel’ on my expense for three days, followed by a 14 day quarantine.
Canada is now, officially, a totalitarian shit hole.

Fear, it's the oldest tool of power. If you are distracted by fear of those around you, it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above.

-Fox Mulder

Also that last sentence I agree with, but that's for another thread.

[jkas789]

Jimmy, on 01 March 2021 - 11:14 PM, said:

The reason anti-biotic resistant bacteria exist is because the medical establishment wants to deny how effective silver is.

The reason anti-biotic resistant bacteria exist is because the many doctors are idiots and prescribe antibiotics stronger than they are needed.

[LAW]

Ehh, the 2019... The SARS-CoV2 pandemic.

At the beginning I have been curious. People in Poland had to cover their mouth and nose, even outside. After that came the infamous "stay home" rule and we were not allowed to travel without the serious reason. Then came my favourite rule, forbidding the access to the forests. I noticed that the pieces do not fit. The death rate was quite low, the RT-PCR test showed random results for the same person. So when I was not allowed to move freely, I have been moving freely, but always with a fake excuse. I have been on the forest trip over 150km from my home, because I could. The lockdown in Poland was unlawful. I have been covering my mouth with a black mosquito net and the police could do nothing.

The polish law has been updated and now I should REALLY wear a mask outside. Of course I don't do that because it is very dumb. I do some exercises, weight lifting and I just need a lot of fresh air - always. Now I don't have to wear a mask, because I have paper for this. People - especially the older ones, brainwashed by the national TV - look at me like if I killed their kids.

The polish government is messing with the statistics. They say that the virus is on the rise, but in reality they just make more tests. More tests means more "infected", the numbers are doubling, but the infection rate is still below 30%. The global society is getting dumber and dumber, so stupid people who watch too much TV believe in this crap.

The lockdown have been creating a lot of suffer. Some people lose their jobs, some other make stupid things due to the excess of free time. The kids are really tired of remote learning. This has to end. You can't lock up the majority of people, just to save 5% of the society. They say that I should have some empathy in these critical times. But do the Pfizer, Astra Zeneca, Moderna and Johnson&Johnson have any empathy? There are a few vaccines already, the patents should be made free pro publico bono. The governments do not care about us. They are afraid of us, that we would see how shitty the national health care system are. The Covid-19 makes these system kneel and squeal badly. Also it is easy to blame Covid-19 for all the f*uck ups and money printing. The virus is real, the pandemic is real, but this whole mess is exaggerated.

[Hank]

[Aristotle Gumball]

"This is the most important video on COVID I have seen. Dr. Peter McCollough reveals his experience with rampant academic fraud, market manipulation, and pharma cronyism guiding our COVID narrative.":



Same guy specifically on vaccines:
https://rumble.com/v...id-vaccine.html

"Geert Vanden Bossche is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who has specialist expertise in virology and vaccinology, Geert has worked in industry in the construction of vaccines, and in the non profit sector working to bring immunity to larger numbers of people."



So far the most intelligent counter-narratives to the mass vaccination campaign I've seen. Granted McCullough sounds a bit too quick to call things bioweapons, but I don't think you can easily discount him either.

[Danukem]

relevant part starts at around 3:30

[Aristotle Gumball]

Welp, Bossche said he's willing to debate this dude. Didn't happen and probably won't.

I've decided to not get the vaccine, which might bite me in the ass later, but I'm also completely admitting I'm operating with a tiny candle in the dark in terms of my knowledge and what I'm able to digest without going mad. The thing is I don't trust "big pharma". I don't trust Fauchi either. I don't trust the news organizations that lied about the lab leak idea, brainwashing people that it def couldn't have happened, and have since done a 180 saying it probably did happen.

https://thebulletin....s-box-at-wuhan/

Long copy paste to follow, but it's all relevant:

"4. The US role in funding the Wuhan Institute of Virology. From June 2014 to May 2019, Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance had a grant from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, to do gain-of-function research with coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Whether or not SARS2 is the product of that research, it seems a questionable policy to farm out high-risk research to unsafe foreign labs using minimal safety precautions. And if the SARS2 virus did indeed escape from the Wuhan institute, then the NIH will find itself in the terrible position of having funded a disastrous experiment that led to death of more than 3 million worldwide, including more than half a million of its own citizens.

The responsibility of the NIAID and NIH is even more acute because for the first three years of the grant to EcoHealth Alliance, there was a moratorium on funding gain-of-function research. Why didn’t the two agencies therefore halt the federal funding, as apparently required to do so by law? Because someone wrote a loophole into the moratorium.

The moratorium specifically barred funding any gain-of-function research that increased the pathogenicity of the flu, MERS, or SARS viruses. But then a footnote on page 2 of the moratorium document states that “[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security.”

This seems to mean that either the director of the NIAID, Anthony Fauci, or the director of the NIH, Francis Collins, or maybe both, would have invoked the footnote in order to keep the money flowing to Shi’s gain-of-function research.

“Unfortunately, the NIAID director and the NIH director exploited this loophole to issue exemptions to projects subject to the Pause—preposterously asserting the exempted research was ‘urgently necessary to protect public health or national security’ — thereby nullifying the Pause,” Ebright said in an interview with Independent Science News.

When the moratorium was ended in 2017, it didn’t just vanish but was replaced by a reporting system, the Potential Pandemic Pathogens Control and Oversight (P3CO) Framework, which required agencies to report for review any dangerous gain-of-function work they wished to fund.

According to Ebright, both Collins and Fauci “have declined to flag and forward proposals for risk-benefit review, thereby nullifying the P3CO Framework.”

In his view, the two officials, in dealing with the moratorium and the ensuing reporting system, “have systematically thwarted efforts by the White House, the Congress, scientists, and science policy specialists to regulate GoF [gain-of-function] research of concern.”

Fuck all these people, man. There is enough genuine corruption in the sciences and in these medical companies to completely destroy whatever inherent trust I had that the people claiming to cure me aren't actually trying to kill me, which is my most uncharitable take. Probably they're just throwing shit at a wall and seeing what will stick (e.g. 1 year of vaccine trial instead of the usual 3). I mean, the actual scientists, not the people at the top who might have more nefarious goals. I get the desperation to end a pandemic. But I think people should get my desperation, and others like me, and not immediately condemn someone who doesn't have the fucking time to essentially become a scientist themselves just to make sense of all this shit, and also doesn't want to rely on some bald head clickbait guru for their info (besides the obviously biased MSM, big pharma and government officials). Not saying anyone's condemning here, but IRL I lie to everyone, saying I did get the shot; just because I don't wanna deal with the questioning and the "looks". Europe is gay like that.

PS. That interview with Weinstein is far more nuanced than "Zdogg's" take, but I admit I don't know enough either way to come to a truly educated conclusion. I'm also massively paranoid and conspiratorial in general and when pressed I genuinely resort to some Illuminati NWO idea. Right from the start of the pandemic, I said, "what if it's like Deus Ex but in reverse - the cure is actually the disease". LOL. I know I sound nuts, but I guess that's how I really feel. Hope I'm proven wrong.

[jkas789]

Real opinion from a real doctor here. I mostly agree with doctor McCullough's work for early ambulatory treatment. There is a very interesting video about it on youtube from 2 weeks ago as well and it is something that i myself did when I was forced to work on the frontlines last year, specifically with ivermectin which empirically seems to bear some effect on a good prognosis. Admittedly I gave the treatment out of desperation at the time and prayed that the placebo effect threw me a bone for once.



It also would not surprise me that there are heavy economical interests in mind when pushing the vaccines. Because nothing can be pure in this fucking world and realistically few things ever were.

In regards to Bossche I disagree with his take.

[Aristotle Gumball]

jkas789 - I'm glad you're posting here, man.

[jkas789]

Lol don't worry Jesus I always have, but when I come to Duke4 to post I try and post about Duke Nukem or gaming in general mate, not work. If I wanted to cry about work on the internet I would pull out a article out of pubmed and argue on r/medicine.

For anyone interested, Doctor McCullough recently testified in the Texas senate. He makes some very interesting points.




btw, fuck r/medicine. All my homies hate r/medicine. lol

Real talk though, r/medicine can be very biased on some shit. Definitely not a place for nuance talk. Lol, Reddit a place for talking nuance huh? The jokes write themselves.

[Aristotle Gumball]

I mean, I'm glad if I have a medicine related question I can get your take on it at least. I know you're not a normie mainstream-narrative type of dude, which is rare among well-educated professionals. Might be different in Mexico, though. Yeah, I saw he had testified too. TBH the 2nd video I linked (after the podcast link) he's similarly alarmist as Bossche, so I dunno. Maybe they're speaking outside of their fields, but I don't see a huge difference between their views. Both are afraid of the possibility of a superbug. Can you clarify where you disagree specifically?

[Kalkaros]

Sure. As i have said before, superbug won’t happen because of a global vaccination program for a rushed up vaccine . Superbug is happening because doctors are fucking idiots who prescribe antivirals and antibiotics as if they were candy to be given to poor orphanage children.

This has been going on since before i entered medschool. Just search on pubmed “resistance” and you will find a alarming number of bacteria and viruses that have developed resistance to penicillin, the first 3 gens of cephalosporins, macrolids, etc.

The question is not why, but when and what.

Anti vaxers exacerbate this problem because they then get sick by illnesses that were already a non problem, giving them a chance to mutate and adapt to current treatments.

Either way, we are fucked up unless papa Elon and the anti christ Bill Gates decide to pull a deus ex machina on the simulation and make medical nanomachines real. But at that point i will definitely be out of a job.

Edit: ti be clear, viruses are not weak to antibiotics. There have been viruses that have presented resistance to antivirals, which btw are a crapshot anyway.

Edit: welp, i signed in with one if my alts, as i am at my phone and i only have my alt password here. Rejoice, you have found one of my trolling accounts.

[jkas789]

To add to the post I made on my alt accidentally, here is a 2019 article about this topic.
Fight Against Antimicrobial Resistance: We Always Need New Antibacterials but for Right Bacteria

Keep in mind that while gram - bacteria are the main concern of the article, gram + are also a concern.

[High Treason]

The medical industry is kinda weird. Two years ago they stopped making my stomach medication because someone who got cancer used it. In reality, it was expensive to produce and the condition it treats can cause cancer. In any case, this left me with nothing, because the alternative medications don't work for me, but do produce adverse reactions. One of the main reasons I was on that particular medication is because it was pretty much the only one that wasn't full of junk and, so, didn't cause anapylaxis, though I still had to take it as a liquid to avoid that and the alternatives aren't available in this form.

Anyway, I did my own research and found that one of the medicines in the group I had used was still licensed and produced here. It isn't widely available outside of hospitals, to the point you have to be authorized by a hospital to obtain it, but I managed to obtain it.
Among the ingredients is Sunset Yellow. As far as I know, I'm fine with that, but not with Ponceau Red or Tartrazine, both of which share a similar oddity: Sunset Yellow and other azo dyes in general are not allowed in most products here now. The soap I use used to contain it and was, in fact, partly derived from the same petroleum biproducts. Also many snacks and beverages used to contain it. Now they're told not to use it, but it's totally fine to make up a huge percentage of a medicine with this color when it doesn't even need to be there. Evidently the regulations don't apply when it's for medical use.

This particular case is mild. It isn't uncommon for the cheaper medication they kept throwing at me to contain a concoction of unnecessary ingredients - if you're lucky and get an upmarket brand, it'll have little more than the medication itself, an emulsifier derived from plants, a stabilizer, something to act as a preservative and a coating like shellac. If you get a cheap one given, which is most of the time, you'll find it contains; stool softener, stool hardener, E102, E104, E110, E122, E124, E129, at least three dubious flavorings, various plastic polymers and all manner of total trash that isn't required for its function. In fact, in the case of that one, the reason you can't get it as a liquid is because it breaks down in gastric acid, so it has to be encapsulated in something long enough to make it into the intestines. If you can get the raw substance to your intestines, it will work and doesn't require any additional ingredients to do so.
By contrast, the medication I was using before contained: Purified water, ethanol (acts as preservative and aids in holding the medicine in suspension), sodium (largely as additional preservative), sorbitol (thickener) and the medicine itself. However, this medicine was more robust and didn't break down in gastric acid, so it was easier to produce.

Interestingly the last lot of pills they tried throwing at me also demonstrated the very reason they told me never to actually take pills - instead of stating a coating, it stated a proprietary product with no publicly available datasheet, because unlike food (unless frozen) or soap, medical products don't have to disclose their ingredients. Because of this, they could never actually figure out what I'm actually allergic to in some pills.

[jkas789]

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medical products don't have to disclose their ingredients.

Yet another reason why medical patents are a blight on the world.

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The medical industry is kinda weird.

Parts of it. The real problems begin when you loose the humanizing aspect and start treating people as wallets.

[Jimmy]

Most modern medicine is designed to slowly kill you while quickly emptying your wallets.

Anyone who takes these COVID vaccines are certified retards.

[jkas789]

As a professional medical grifter, I humbly disagree.

[Danukem]

Well at least Jimmy finally admits that Trump is a retard.

[jkas789]

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Anyone who takes these COVID vaccines are certified retards.

To be more specific:

IMO the vaccines themselves and how they work are not bad. The literature is pretty sound on that. What is definitely sus is how they were fast tracked while leaving other avenues of research for Covid treatment by the way side and that they were and still are used as a political hammer.

Spoiler

Also I'm surprised nobody has commented on the fact that my alt has a cooler name then my main account. I expected better out of you Jesus Christ. Although I'm fine if we ignore this little mishap and move on.