[Mark]

I guess I'll go out on the sidewalk and take a look.

[rasmus thorup]

I'm about to be done with my tower of babel remake from doom. It's only 5 room but i was out of walls faster than i thought. The fight with the cyperdemon is also too short. This version is much darker than the original tower of babel map from doom. I also put in a different music track ( go 2 it ) It took me about 3 maps to do the things i have done for the map now. But i need a break with mapping so it's going slow.

[pmw]

I'm still making my Finland Tampere -episode, since 2007. Almost every map has 16834 walls.

I tried one map today with HRP. It didn't run well!

[Danukem]

Those shots actually look pretty good, aside from the absurd number of monsters.

What are your sprite counts on those maps?

[Mark]

I still have an older version you posted quite a while ago before Polymer was around. I remember it looking pretty good.

[pmw]

Yes map structures are 100% ready. I need to make monsters and fix some little things, like shadows etc.

Map 6: 2243/4096 sect. 16235/16384 walls 4928/16384 s


But there's still much doing with sprites. Detailing etc.

I wonder why my taxis are blue (take a look of latest shot). I've changed tile palette to yellow. Doesn't that work on HRP?

[Danukem]

pmw, on 27 November 2011 - 12:15 PM, said:

I wonder why my taxis are blue (take a look of latest shot). I've changed tile palette to yellow. Doesn't that work on HRP?

Yes, that should work in the HRP, assuming you are using a recent version of the HRP and EDuke32, and Polymer. It's been a while since I have used the highpal feature or the HRP, so I have no idea what is going wrong there.

[Inspector Lagomorf]

pmw, on 27 November 2011 - 11:05 AM, said:

I'm still making my Finland Tampere -episode, since 2007. Almost every map has 16834 walls.

I tried one map today with HRP. It didn't run well!

No joke? Having too many monsters on screen will bog down FPS BIGtime, because of all the scripts that need to be run and all the movement/animation that's going on. This is actually why open city levels are very rare in the original levels. I recommend having monsters teleport in as you progress through the level. Laying down a few touchplate switches (DEFS #3) linked to respawn sprites (DEF #9) will accomplish that nicely.

[pmw]

 The Mighty Bison, on 27 November 2011 - 12:36 PM, said:

No joke? Having too many monsters on screen will bog down FPS BIGtime, because of all the scripts that need to be run and all the movement/animation that's going on. This is actually why open city levels are very rare in the original levels. I recommend having monsters teleport in as you progress through the level. Laying down a few touchplate switches (DEFS #3) linked to respawn sprites (DEF #9) will accomplish that nicely.

In fact, with normal gameplay, you won't see that much monsters. There's a secret room in that level, where you can push button and release all those monsters. There are teleport monsters also.
But please, this is not a normal episode. Example, every map has millions of pointless places. And with normal duke (no HRP), that works pretty fine even there are lot of monsters on the screen.

This episode is made for Eduke and 8-bit -mode.

[Jimmy]

Also, when you have a ton of monsters in Duke, it really doesn't work that well. In Doom they work together, or infight if someone screws up, but in Duke they just all shoot in the same direction, so the guys in the back just kill everyone in front of them for you. (Especially if there are Commanders or something out there.)

[pmw]

 Captain Awesome, on 27 November 2011 - 01:59 PM, said:

Also, when you have a ton of monsters in Duke, it really doesn't work that well. In Doom they work together, or infight if someone screws up, but in Duke they just all shoot in the same direction, so the guys in the back just kill everyone in front of them for you. (Especially if there are Commanders or something out there.)

I know. It's just for fun. This is not super official mod. Pure fun.

[Stabs]

Another shot from the new project i am working on, windows image viewer makes it heaps dark but seems fine in firefox



Ahh TROR, you have given me another 10 years use out of this engine AT least...

[Tea Monster]

Ooooh, nice!

[Helixhorned]

 DanM, on 28 November 2011 - 03:10 AM, said:

Another shot from the new project i am working on, windows image viewer makes it heaps dark but seems fine in firefox

Pure mastery, brings back the Unreal days!

@pmw: can you post the log please? Your HRP install should contain a 'highpal' directory and the palettes should be properly referenced from duke3d_hrp.def.

[Stabs]

 Helixhorned, on 28 November 2011 - 06:29 AM, said:

Pure mastery, brings back the Unreal days!

i have been using this engine since i was 12 dude, and I'am 27 now

tried brushes in quake/source but they where so finicky, and hated how unreal constricted your carving to a pre-made shape

[Tea Monster]

I hated the leaks in Quake engine games. I never got into Unreal editing. I was making what I thought 'The Big Gun' should have been like (something more than a hole in the floor!) but I couldn't get it watertight for anything.

[Micky C]

 DanM, on 28 November 2011 - 03:10 AM, said:

Ahh TROR, you have given me another 10 years use out of this engine AT least...

I'll hold you to that, or I'll bus over and bludgen you while you're in a drunken stupor

[Inspector Lagomorf]

 Tea Monster, on 28 November 2011 - 02:08 PM, said:

I hated the leaks in Quake engine games. I never got into Unreal editing. I was making what I thought 'The Big Gun' should have been like (something more than a hole in the floor!) but I couldn't get it watertight for anything.

Big Gun actually looks something like this:



Edit: Okay, who negrepped my comment about the monsters? Come on.

[Stabs]

 Micky C, on 28 November 2011 - 02:27 PM, said:

I'll hold you to that, or I'll bus over and bludgen you while you're in a drunken stupor

dont worry that staircase out the front willl get me before you can

damn they put a ton of work into the big guns texture

[Fox]

Playing a little with ROR

[Hendricks266]

Very nice.

I'd like to see ROR in Tier Drops. /trollface

[blizzart]

 DanM, on 28 November 2011 - 03:10 AM, said:

Another shot from the new project i am working on, windows image viewer makes it heaps dark but seems fine in firefox

eduke32 2011-11-28 22-01-12-99.png

Ahh TROR, you have given me another 10 years use out of this engine AT least...

This shot looks so amazing just like a completely different game. I can´t wait to play this. Awesome work, DanM!!!

[zykov eddy]

 Fox, on 28 November 2011 - 10:33 PM, said:

Playing a little with ROR

Looks awesome!

[The Commander]

Some shots from the same project DanM posted above about, not as great as his architecture but it will be playable for ATI at least.

[pmw]

I just took screenshot of every map in my episode.

http://petteri.muumi...mw-screenshots/

Take a look! imageorder:

Map 1: Old gas station
Map 2: Congress hall "Tampere-Talo" (real pic)
Map 3: Näsinneula, tallest freestanding building in nordic countries (real pic)
Map 4: Nääshalli, sports and hobby center. This map has 100% real structure, based on building's floor plan.
Map 5: Tampere central (real pic)
Map 6: Hotelli Ilves (real pic)
Map 7: Exhibition and Sports centre

[Helixhorned]

I recall that exhibition map. Looking forward to play the others!

[Mikko]

Cool, looking forward to it. Tampere has always been one of my favorite cities.

[Jblade]

It definitly looks cool, good to see another classic style map pack coming out

[WedgeBob]

 DeeperThought, on 27 November 2011 - 11:19 AM, said:

Those shots actually look pretty good, aside from the absurd number of monsters.

What are your sprite counts on those maps?

I was almost ready to say the exact same thing...the number of monsters would completely overwhelm all but the most hardcore players, and even they would be somewhat challenged.
Balance, balance, balance...as the Levelord once said in some certain Level Design Handbook about 15 years ago.

[rasmus thorup]

Here are some pictures of my tower of babel map. The big shiny thing in the first picture is a teleporter. This is with HRP but without polymer. Won't be using TROR.
Here is a video of the original map.


And here are some pics of my map.