[Radar]

Jehovah's Witnesses aren't Christians, by dint of the fact they don't follow the Bible to the last dot. They are modern day Sadducees.

[Hank]

@ Jesus is King - Laughter is good for the soul. Thus, I did my good deed for today.

@ Radar 100 Watts - More the reverse; their preaching tries to merge the image/story line of the Jewish God with the Son of God of the New Testament. They still working on this dilemma.

[Radar]

Hank, on 18 December 2019 - 08:18 PM, said:

@ Radar 100 Watts - More the reverse; their preaching tries to merge the image/story line of the Jewish God with the Son of God of the New Testament. They still working on this dilemma.

You have it backwards. Christians literally "merge" the Jewish God, Son of God, and Holy Spirit into one unit called the Trinity, which Jehovah's Witnesses reject.

Jesus is King, on 17 December 2019 - 08:43 PM, said:

Yeah it's definitely somewhat derivative. Joji's "serious" rap music blows, and it doesn't even work because you just see Filthy Frank. Probably the biggest e-celeb sell out ever.

How can you still fail after Pewdiepie showed how to NOT sell out??? Especially considering Filthy Frank was supposed to be the edgelord of the bunch.

Jesus is King, on 17 December 2019 - 08:43 PM, said:

I wouldn't classify Iron Maiden as satanic. Are you referring to Number of the Beast, specifically?

I'm referring to their lawsuit against IF, which is purely the work of the devil.

Jesus is King, on 17 December 2019 - 08:43 PM, said:

Cheers to you, King.

Don't you know in Christ we are all kings?

[Jimmy]

Radar 100 Watts, on 18 December 2019 - 09:00 PM, said:

How can you still fail after Pewdiepie showed how to NOT sell out??? Especially considering Filthy Frank was supposed to be the edgelord of the bunch.

Yeah, pretty much. I hated Pewdiepie but lately he's a pretty cool guy who makes content I don't care about.

Radar 100 Watts, on 18 December 2019 - 09:00 PM, said:

I'm referring to their lawsuit against IF, which is purely the work of the devil.

LMAO! In defense of the band, it wasn't them that did it. It was the holdings company that retains the rights to their merchandising in the United States. I still think VoidPoint could have fought it and got the band to tell them to back off. They've been opposed to dumb shit like that before. 3DR just folded like they do on everything.

Radar 100 Watts, on 18 December 2019 - 09:00 PM, said:

Don't you know in Christ we are all kings?

RISE.

[Hank]

Radar 100 Watts, on 18 December 2019 - 09:00 PM, said:

You have it backwards. Christians literally "merge" the Jewish God, Son of God, and Holy Spirit into one unit called the Trinity, which Jehovah's Witnesses reject.

The Sadducee where the elite of society, way back when, that's what I meant by "reverse".

The rest ... well, this is America, Freedom of Religion is law.

[Forge]

Impeachment on counts of abuse of power and obstruction passed 230 - 197 & 229 - 197. All based on party lines.
Now the dems will hold onto them & wait until during/after the 2020 election cycle to see if Trump gets re-elected & if they can win the majority in the senate.

[Radar]

>None of the articles accuse Trump of a crime
>No Republicans vote yes, 3 Democrats vote no
>1 Democrat switches parties over this


You guys ready for Trump to be the first president to be impeached and win reelection?

[Jimmy]

-------EDIT--------

USMCA just passed in the House. They said he'd never get anything done again, turns around and does yuge things just hours later. Loser do nothing Democrats.

[Forge]

Jesus is King, on 19 December 2019 - 02:24 PM, said:

USMCA just passed in the House.

385-41 vote

Jesus is King, on 19 December 2019 - 02:24 PM, said:

They said he'd never get anything done again, turns around and does yuge things just hours later. Loser do nothing Democrats.

technically, just the 38 that opposed it.

*waiting for the propaganda where dems claim they can shake hands across the aisle & have no partisan agenda

[Mark]

Pelosi made that announcement yesterday. For the short time I listened it sounded almost like her party was taking all the credit for doing the people's work. She had to because Republicans did a good job messaging that Pelosi's months long sitting on the measure was hurting the economy.

Interesting news from a constitutional scholar. He says Trump has not been officially Impeached yet. It doesn't happen until the House actually turns over their decision to the Senate. Pelosi has not done that yet for whatever political reason. So if you want to tweak some leftie friend, tell them Trump hasn't been impeached yet.

[Hank]

... maybe tell this also to the religious outlets?

Trump Should Be Removed from Office
https://www.christianitytoday.com/
or
https://www.christia...rom-office.html

Yes, Trump is not officially impeached, but this wont stop the on going witch hunt.

[Kyanos]

I think she's waiting till 2020 hoping for a dem majority senate, knows they won't win the presidential and has this now in the works if they can win the senate.

[dukefan4evah02]

HorseDongSub69, on 19 December 2019 - 02:24 PM, said:

-------EDIT--------

USMCA just passed in the House. They said he'd never get anything done again, turns around and does yuge things just hours later. Loser do nothing Democrats.

Better 'do nothing' than do horrendous shit. And Bill Clinton was impeached. He's still serving his jail sentence; I remember watching him get dragged across the lawn of the White House in handcu- oh, wait. Meh, at least he got a blowjob out of it.

[Jimmy]

Name one horrendous thing Trump has done.

[dukefan4evah02]

HorseDongSub69, on 03 January 2020 - 10:03 PM, said:

Name one horrendous thing Trump has done.

The detention camps at the border.

I'd name more, but you instructed me to list only one.

[Danukem]

I heard they even vaporized some detention camps right in front of people, leaving only empty parking lots. As immortalized in this AOC pic.



Still, they keep coming. Because being vaporized in America is better than living in Mexico.

[Mark]

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 07:45 AM, said:

The detention camps at the border.

I'd name more, but you instructed me to list only one.

What is the alternative you would like to see?

[Forge]

Mark, on 04 January 2020 - 09:35 AM, said:

What is the alternative you would like to see?

Make Trump stop forcing those people to enter the U.S. illegally.
Give them 5 star hotel accommodations when they do.
Also give them free stuff because north americans have had it too easy for too long.
Detroit auto workers and Pittsburgh steel workers don't deserve what they worked for.
It's their fault anyway.
Sending countries like El Salvador millions of dollars annually to buoy their economy & fight poverty just attracts migrants.

[Radar]

HorseDongSub69, on 03 January 2020 - 10:03 PM, said:

Name one horrendous thing Trump has done.

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 07:45 AM, said:

The detention camps at the border.I'd name more, but you instructed me to list only one.

Trooper Dan, on 04 January 2020 - 09:17 AM, said:

I heard they even vaporized some detention camps right in front of people, leaving only empty parking lots. As immortalized in this AOC pic.

Still, they keep coming. Because being vaporized in America is better than living in Mexico.

[dukefan4evah02]

Forge, on 04 January 2020 - 09:49 AM, said:

Make Trump stop forcing those people to enter the U.S. illegally.
Give them 5 star hotel accommodations when they do.
Also give them free stuff because north americans have had it too easy for too long.
Detroit auto workers and Pittsburgh steel workers don't deserve what they worked for.
It's their fault anyway.
Sending countries like El Salvador millions of dollars annually to buoy their economy & fight poverty just attracts migrants.

Yes, those darn illegal immigrants...seeking refugee from their native corrupt regimes(even compared to this one) so they can help bolster our economy doing shitty menial jobs and barely scraping by on minimum wages but still being grateful for the land of opportunity?

So if you're willing to concede that the vast majority of them aren't criminals and "rapists"(much lower crime rates on average than natural born American citizens, which only makes sense for fear of being deported), I guess your next argumentative point of reference is that they're taking all of our jobs - well, the ones we don't want anyway. Yeah, us true Americans dream of being able to wash sidewalks and serve fast food for shit pay.

Oh, so it's about the tax payer's money? How much dough is being funneled into building, guarding, and maintaining those detention centers?

So, yes...the alternative would be showing of modicum of intelligence and compassion. But this is Donald J. Trump we're talking about.

[Danukem]

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

Yes, those darn illegal immigrants...seeking refugee from their native corrupt regimes(even compared to this one) so they can help bolster our economy doing shitty menial jobs and barely scraping by on minimum wages but still being grateful for the land of opportunity?

I don't blame them for coming here. I would try to do the same if I were in their shoes. I would try, that is. I wouldn't expect to be automatically let in, though. Would you expect to be automatically let in to any country you go to? Try that and see what happens. I looked into moving to Canada a few years ago. They have stricter immigration requirements than the U.S. and let in far fewer people legally than the U.S. lets in legally. That's the story in most places.

As for jobs... I don't understand why liberals get so excited about immigrants driving down labor costs and helping our corporations make cheaper products. Why is bolstering capitalism suddenly such a priority for liberals, the minute that immigrants become part of the discussion? I would think you would want higher labor costs so that workers have more clout. But you can't have that with an endless source of cheap labor. Also, you aren't taking into account that many of them are heavy users of social services, such as public education, emergency rooms, etc. Those things aren't cheap. Plus, do we really want to be overcrowded in our cities? Just when we seem to have population growth in our country under control...NOPE, got to have millions of new immigrants.

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

Oh, so it's about the tax payer's money? How much dough is being funneled into building, guarding, and maintaining those detention centers?

Vastly cheaper than importing the entire population south of the border who wants to move to the USA.

You either want to have unlimited, unrestricted immigration, or you don't. If you don't, then there has to be enforcement and we are just talking about details. So which is it?

EDIT: Also, welcome to the political discussion around here! You may find yourself in the minority at times, but don't let that discourage you. I'm a strong advocate of civil discourse, and won't tolerate flaming. Strawman arguments and other fallacies are to be expected and just go with the territory, though.

[Jimmy]

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

Yes, those darn illegal immigrants...seeking refugee from their native corrupt regimes

Not my problem. I live in a country where we killed the corrupt regime and made it our own. The answer to 1984 is 1776, not gibsmedat!

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

(even compared to this one)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

so they can help bolster our economy doing shitty menial jobs and barely scraping by on minimum wages

No thanks. I'd rather teenaged Americans do that.

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

but still being grateful for the land of opportunity?

[CITATION NEEDED]

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

So if you're willing to concede that the vast majority of them aren't criminals

They are criminals as soon as they break our immigration laws.

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

I guess your next argumentative point of reference is that they're taking all of our jobs - well, the ones we don't want anyway. Yeah, us true Americans dream of being able to wash sidewalks and serve fast food for shit pay.

So you're literally a racist who views illegal immigrants as some sort of untermenschen?

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

Oh, so it's about the tax payer's money? How much dough is being funneled into building, guarding, and maintaining those detention centers?

I agree. We should just execute them like most other countries do.

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

So, yes...the alternative would be showing of modicum of intelligence and compassion. But this is Donald J. Trump we're talking about.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick and Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existencial catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Rick and Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

[Danukem]

HorseDongSub69, on 04 January 2020 - 06:08 PM, said:

I agree. We should just execute them like most other countries do.

Citation needed.

It is notable that the flow of illegal immigrants to Europe has revived the slave trade in some African countries. I guess they don't all take kindly to having the poor masses flowing through on the way north.

[Mark]

They are a net drain on the economy. California is a prime example. There are many reports and estimates on the costs to the federal government and states. Look up the number of crimes and arrests for the illegal's. Especially in Texas. Its appalling. The huge swaths of tent cities springing up on the west coast. I've forgotten the extrordinarily high dollar amount that is sent from immigrants back to their families in their home country and not spent in our economy. The drain on social services is tremendous. The fact that so many have no wish to assimilate by learning our language becomes a barrier to their success and even public safety if they cannot converse with law enforcement. I also don't want to see those ungrateful ones marching in parades with mexican flags and demanding all the rights of American citizens. If they were truly leaving to seek asylum, which many admit they are not, they are supposed take up residence in the first country they travel to outside of their own. Not the US.

And most importantly, all the fast food places now have spicy this, spicy that, peppers here and peppers there. I hate Mexican food.

EDIT: Sorry for the lack of links to back up some of the things I've posted. I've been at this for years with a lot of left wingers and I don't have the energy I once had to debate.

[Forge]

illegal immigrants drive down wages & raise housing costs - among other social and financial burdens that are placed upon the shoulders of the natives.

I'm for immigration reform and streamlining the process. Legal and controlled immigration is a good thing.

Blaming something on Trump that happened back during Clinton's time (Flores Settlement), or that prior to Aug 2015 Obama separated families at twice the rate that is done today, but accounting it to the Donald, is just lazy orange-man bad rhetoric.
The child separation thing was because children could only be detained for roughly half the amount of time as an adult. The child is then placed in a foster home. They aren't ripped apart as soon as they're captured.
The Trump administration is the only administration to address this issue and try to keep families whole. He signed an executive order to keep families together.

Since there are traces of "all immigrants are dangerous animals" to the post being addressed, I take the opinion as ill-informed media parroting of Trump's MS-13 sound-bite.

Somebody already posted that if it weren't for a vast amount of illegals in the United States, then we wouldn't have a bunch of angsty pasty millennials dwelling in their parent's basement bitching about being socialists and getting free stuff. They'd be out working in the fields or doing manual labor jobs, learning some work ethics, & getting paid a living wage to do so. They either strive to rise in status and get a better job, or they stagnate and pick fruit until they're 65. They win, the economy wins, the country wins.

You want to complain about the orange man, address the policies that remove environmental protections, or the ones that promote crony/vulture capitalism instead of the free market.
The fat-cat uncontrolled budget/government spending is another issue that's going to bite the U.S. in the ass one of these days.

[Radar]

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

Yes, those darn illegal immigrants...seeking refugee from their native corrupt regimes(even compared to this one) so they can help bolster our economy doing shitty menial jobs and barely scraping by on minimum wages but still being grateful for the land of opportunity?

Nah, it's because one of the major parties will bribe them for votes in return for free stuff.

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

So if you're willing to concede that the vast majority of them aren't criminals and "rapists"(much lower crime rates on average than natural born American citizens, which only makes sense for fear of being deported), I guess your next argumentative point of reference is that they're taking all of our jobs - well, the ones we don't want anyway. Yeah, us true Americans dream of being able to wash sidewalks and serve fast food for shit pay.

Nah, because they take our jobs anyway via outsourcing.

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

Oh, so it's about the tax payer's money? How much dough is being funneled into building, guarding, and maintaining those detention centers?

You know that building a wall eliminates the need for funding detention centers?

dukefan4evah02, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

So, yes...the alternative would be showing of modicum of intelligence and compassion. But this is Donald J. Trump we're talking about.

Good intentions pave the way to hell.

[dukefan4evah02]

HorseDongSub69, on 04 January 2020 - 06:08 PM, said:

Not my problem. I live in a country where we killed the corrupt regime and made it our own. The answer to 1984 is 1776, not gibsmedat!

It's 2020. Not 1776. Asking for a Hispanic Revolution is utterly silly.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Did I say something that was funny?

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No thanks. I'd rather teenaged Americans do that.

They do. But mostly they're working their asses off for admission to college and/or cashing in big time on social media or IT jobs.

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[CITATION NEEDED]

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They are criminals as soon as they break our immigration laws.

So...just because it's against the law, it's wrong? Glad you have such blind faith in your(my?) government.

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So you're literally a racist who views illegal immigrants as some sort of untermenschen?

Nope. I'm grateful of those who are willing to settle for less than they deserve just for the sake of making ends meet for their families. So you're literally a racist who thinks being born with darker skin in an underprivileged area of the world equates to a warranted lifetime of misery and suffering when entering the US would help everyone instead of harming anyone?

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I agree. We should just execute them like most other countries do.

Yup. I hate Trump. But I'm not insane enough to moan about him being as bad as(or worse than) Hitler...and I can openly acknowledge that other countries are more barbaric than we are. But if mass execution of innocents is your benchmark, we're passin' that tolerance test with flyin' colors(pun intended)!

Quote

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick and Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existencial catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Rick and Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

Right.

[Jimmy]

dukefan4evah02, on 05 January 2020 - 04:07 PM, said:

It's 2020. Not 1776. Asking for a Hispanic Revolution is utterly silly.

Because they're lazy and don't want to fix things.

dukefan4evah02, on 05 January 2020 - 04:07 PM, said:

Did I say something that was funny?

Yes.

dukefan4evah02, on 05 January 2020 - 04:07 PM, said:

They do. But mostly they're working their asses off for admission to college and/or cashing in big time on social media or IT jobs.

LOL

dukefan4evah02, on 05 January 2020 - 04:07 PM, said:

The Statue of Liberty has nothing to do with the founding of this great country. It was a gift from the French and frankly we should have sent it back.

dukefan4evah02, on 05 January 2020 - 04:07 PM, said:

So...just because it's against the law, it's wrong? Glad you have such blind faith in your(my?) government.

Where did I ever imply morality? You said they're not criminals. But they are criminals when they break the law. Entering the country illegally is against the law, therefor they are criminals. It's not hard to understand.

dukefan4evah02, on 05 January 2020 - 04:07 PM, said:

Nope. I'm grateful of those who are willing to settle for less than they deserve just for the sake of making ends meet for their families.

V I R T U E S I G N A L L I N G

dukefan4evah02, on 05 January 2020 - 04:07 PM, said:

So you're literally a racist who thinks being born with darker skin in an underprivileged area of the world equates to a warranted lifetime of misery and suffering when entering the US would help everyone instead of harming anyone?

What does their skin colour have to do with anything? You are aware there are whites from Central and South America, correct? People breaking my country's laws and living outside the system does nothing to help me. They need to follow the law like everyone else. My family immigrated here legally, they can do the same.

dukefan4evah02, on 05 January 2020 - 04:07 PM, said:

Yup. I hate Trump. But I'm not insane enough to moan about him being as bad as(or worse than) Hitler...and I can openly acknowledge that other countries are more barbaric than we are. But if mass execution of innocents is your benchmark, we're passin' that tolerance test with flyin' colors(pun intended)!

Don't break the law, don't get executed.
And Hillary broke the law, lets execute her.

[Mark]

It looks to me that dukefan4evah02 doesn't understand the severity of the immigrant violence/law breaking but instead sounds like he thinks most are law abiding civil people just looking for a better life here. Again I say he should educate himself with a google search on the amount of criminal activity by immigrants. An excerpt from Texas stats. Add in the other states around the country. Its a huge problem.

According to DHS status indicators, over 310,000 criminal aliens have been booked into local Texas jails between June 1, 2011 and December 31, 2019, of which over 211,000 were classified as illegal aliens by DHS.

Between June 1, 2011 and December 31, 2019, these 211,000 illegal aliens were charged with more than 333,000 criminal offenses which included arrests for 606 homicide charges; 37,128 assault charges; 6,309 burglary charges; 41,605 drug charges; 495 kidnapping charges; 17,475 theft charges; 26,354 obstructing police charges; 1,826 robbery charges; 3,974 sexual assault charges; 5,253 sexual offense charges; and 3,371 weapon charges. DPS criminal history records reflect those criminal charges have thus far resulted in over 133,000 convictions including 280 homicide convictions; 15,279 assault convictions; 3,446 burglary convictions; 19,613 drug convictions; 195 kidnapping convictions; 7,629 theft convictions; 12,263 obstructing police convictions; 1,106 robbery convictions; 1,949 sexual assault convictions; 2,578 sexual offense convictions; and 1,420 weapon convictions.

[Forge]

dukefan4evah02, on 05 January 2020 - 04:07 PM, said:

entering the US would help everyone instead of harming anyone?

define harm.
every dollar given to support an illegal immigrant could be used to support a homeless U.S. citizen instead.
resources are NOT infinite, despite what utopian socialists would have you otherwise believe.
(and it's in the neighborhood of $135-150 billion annually that illegal immigrants cost US taxpayers - that's a lot of student loans & health care bills that could be taken care of for the natives).

My personal opinion is that we should do a one-for-one swap. One worthless whiny millennial for one hard working person living in central/south america. At least they want to do something for a living wage, and a lot of them are catholic, so they have morals and ethics.