Duke4.net Forums: [RELEASE] NBlood - Blood port based on EDuke32 - Duke4.net Forums

Jump to content

Hide message Show message
Welcome to the Duke4.net Forums!

Register an account now to get access to all board features. After you've registered and logged in, you'll be able to create topics, post replies, send and receive private messages, disable the viewing of ads and more!

  • 8 Pages +
  • « First
  • 4
  • 5
  • 6
  • 7
  • 8
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

[RELEASE] NBlood - Blood port based on EDuke32

User is offline   Photonic 

  • 1,268

#151

View Postevil_presley, on 21 February 2019 - 11:25 AM, said:

i just wish we could use mapster with this.

View Postnightsmoke, on 22 February 2019 - 02:38 AM, said:

Awesome port! Much appreciated!It works just fine with my Blood Texture Pack.
Can we get Mapster32 for this port, pretty please?

View PostdaMann, on 22 February 2019 - 04:50 AM, said:

Or even Mapster like 😀


I looked into this. Bloods map format is encrypted does nblood hold the keys?
0

User is offline   Hendricks266 

  • Weaponized Autism
  • 6,387

  #152

You're not going to be able to hack together a Blood editor from Duke's.
3

User is offline   Master O 

  • 87

#153

View PostPhotonic, on 28 February 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

I looked into this. Bloods map format is encrypted does nblood hold the keys?


Have you tried de-crypting it?
0

User is offline   Darkus 

  • 307

#154

Found a major issue: NBlood crashes randomly when you are in 'drunk' mode, or using the 'jojo' cheat. I got even some cases that when entering drunk mode, the audio stop and NBlood crash some seconds after.

It can also crash when quitting NBlood after the 'drunk' state, for example, enter the 'jojo' cheat, and quit NBlood, sometimes you get an error message.

Apparently, this only affect using the software render, I can't replicate the problem in OpenGL mode.
0

User is offline   Photonic 

  • 1,268

#155

View PostMaster O, on 01 March 2019 - 07:26 AM, said:

Have you tried de-crypting it?

No, all I've really done was examine the feasibility of the whole thing. I do think it may be possible to either save from mapster into bloods format (maybe parts only), or at least get a better conversion tool than that dos one that only gets sector geometry, even just adding picnums to a converter would be huge for blood mapping, I don't even play blood though and my motivation on this project is more of a curiosity than any actual desire to make blood maps.

This post has been edited by Photonic: 01 March 2019 - 02:05 PM

0

User is offline   rhoenie 

  • 18

#156

 NukeYKT, on 12 February 2019 - 09:16 AM, said:

After months of hard working NBlood is finally ready to be released.


Compiles fine on Mac OSX 10.7 when I add -lc++ to the linker. Binary runs fine on my Mac-Mini 2018 under Mojave (and inside the 10.7 virtual machine I am using for the build).
I am having the same issues as with Mapster32, though: can't open the application bundle from within Finder with a mouse click but running it from the command-line is fine.

Thanks! :-)
1

User is offline   Hendricks266 

  • Weaponized Autism
  • 6,387

  #157

 rhoenie, on 03 March 2019 - 03:01 AM, said:

Compiles fine on Mac OSX 10.7 when I add -lc++ to the linker.

Is that parameter needed or can -stdlib=libc++ be used instead?
0

User is offline   rhoenie 

  • 18

#158

View PostHendricks266, on 03 March 2019 - 12:26 PM, said:

Is that parameter needed or can -stdlib=libc++ be used instead?


That parameter is actually needed. It wont compile when I use -stdlib=libc++.

I wasn't using Apples compiler but the MacPorts Clang 4.0.1 that I also use for making the EDuke32 builds and I changed the Common.mak file like this:

Zoidberg:NBlood rhoenie$ diff Common.mak.orig Common.mak
8d7
<
96c95
< PRETTY_OUTPUT := 1
---
> PRETTY_OUTPUT := 0
179,180c178,185
<     CC := $(CROSS)clang$(CROSS_SUFFIX)
<     CXX := $(CROSS)clang++$(CROSS_SUFFIX)
---
>     CC := /opt/local/bin/clang-mp-4.0 -I/opt/local/libexec/llvm-4.0/lib/c++/v1/ -I/opt/local/libexec/llvm-4.0/lib/c++/ -mmacosx-version-min=10.7
>     CXX := /opt/local/bin/clang++-mp-4.0 -I/opt/local/libexec/llvm-4.0/lib/c++/v1/ -I/opt/local/libexec/llvm-4.0/lib/c++/ -mmacosx-version-min=10.7
>
>     COBJC := /opt/local/bin/clang-mp-4.0 -std=c99 -x objective-c -mmacosx-version-min=10.7
>     COBJCXX := /opt/local/bin/clang-mp-4.0 -std=c99 -x objective-c++ -mmacosx-version-min=10.7
> else
>     COBJC := $(CC) -x objective-c
>     COBJCXX := $(CXX) -x objective-c++
183,184d187
< COBJC := $(CC) -x objective-c
< COBJCXX := $(CXX) -x objective-c++
570c573,575
<                 OPTOPT := -march=core2 -mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3 -mssse3
---
>                 # OPTOPT := -march=core2 -mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3 -mssse3
> 		OPTOPT := -m64
> 		L_CXXONLYFLAGS += -lc++


The -I/opt/local/libexec/llvm-4.0/lib/c++/v1/ -I/opt/local/libexec/llvm-4.0/lib/c++/ parameters for the C-compiler are needed because a bit further down it will use $(CC) -x c++ to compile C++ code and without them two includes it will run into errors.

The only thing that bugs me right now is the inability to start the game by clicking on the icon within Finder. I even can't debug this behaviour because the debugger runs the binary from the console and this is working fine. As I said it's the same as with Mapster32. Against all logic it must be something inside the code and not in the application bundle (I did a few tests on that one).
0

User is offline   Hendricks266 

  • Weaponized Autism
  • 6,387

  #159

View Postrhoenie, on 05 March 2019 - 11:21 PM, said:

That parameter is actually needed. It wont compile when I use -stdlib=libc++.

I wasn't using Apples compiler but the MacPorts Clang 4.0.1 that I also use for making the EDuke32 builds and I changed the Common.mak file like this:

Zoidberg:NBlood rhoenie$ diff Common.mak.orig Common.mak
8d7
<
96c95
< PRETTY_OUTPUT := 1
---
> PRETTY_OUTPUT := 0
179,180c178,185
<     CC := $(CROSS)clang$(CROSS_SUFFIX)
<     CXX := $(CROSS)clang++$(CROSS_SUFFIX)
---
>     CC := /opt/local/bin/clang-mp-4.0 -I/opt/local/libexec/llvm-4.0/lib/c++/v1/ -I/opt/local/libexec/llvm-4.0/lib/c++/ -mmacosx-version-min=10.7
>     CXX := /opt/local/bin/clang++-mp-4.0 -I/opt/local/libexec/llvm-4.0/lib/c++/v1/ -I/opt/local/libexec/llvm-4.0/lib/c++/ -mmacosx-version-min=10.7
>
>     COBJC := /opt/local/bin/clang-mp-4.0 -std=c99 -x objective-c -mmacosx-version-min=10.7
>     COBJCXX := /opt/local/bin/clang-mp-4.0 -std=c99 -x objective-c++ -mmacosx-version-min=10.7
> else
>     COBJC := $(CC) -x objective-c
>     COBJCXX := $(CXX) -x objective-c++
183,184d187
< COBJC := $(CC) -x objective-c
< COBJCXX := $(CXX) -x objective-c++
570c573,575
<                 OPTOPT := -march=core2 -mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3 -mssse3
---
>                 # OPTOPT := -march=core2 -mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3 -mssse3
> 		OPTOPT := -m64
> 		L_CXXONLYFLAGS += -lc++


The -I/opt/local/libexec/llvm-4.0/lib/c++/v1/ -I/opt/local/libexec/llvm-4.0/lib/c++/ parameters for the C-compiler are needed because a bit further down it will use $(CC) -x c++ to compile C++ code and without
them two includes it will run into errors.

This patch is butchery so I won't merge it, but you should be able to make a wrapper shell script like this:

#!/bin/sh
make PRETTY_OUTPUT=0 CC="..." CXX="..." ... OPTOPT= L_CXXONLYFLAGS+="-lc++" $*


View Postrhoenie, on 05 March 2019 - 11:21 PM, said:

The only thing that bugs me right now is the inability to start the game by clicking on the icon within Finder. I even can't debug this behaviour because the debugger runs the binary from the console and this is working fine. As I said it's the same as with Mapster32. Against all logic it must be something inside the code and not in the application bundle (I did a few tests on that one).

Does this happen even with the open command from the terminal? If so, maybe running LLDB directly on the .app bundle might allow debugging.
0

User is offline   rhoenie 

  • 18

#160

View PostHendricks266, on 06 March 2019 - 09:57 AM, said:

This patch is butchery so I won't merge it, but you should be able to make a wrapper shell script like this:

#!/bin/sh
make PRETTY_OUTPUT=0 CC="..." CXX="..." ... OPTOPT= L_CXXONLYFLAGS+="-lc++" $*



Well, this wasn't meant as a patch - I just wanted to show how I compiled it using Mac-Ports clang 4.0.1. B)

View PostHendricks266, on 06 March 2019 - 09:57 AM, said:

Does this happen even with the open command from the terminal? If so, maybe running LLDB directly on the .app bundle might allow debugging.


I tried that method too but I had no success with it. :(

But I think I found it. When I comment out this section in source/build/src/osd.cpp (around line 1642) ..

if (log.lines < log.cutoff)
{
char *chp2 = Xstrdup(tmpstr);
Bfputs(OSD_StripColors(chp2, tmpstr), osdlog);
Bprintf("%s", chp2);
Bfree(chp2);
}
else if (log.lines == log.cutoff)
{
Bfputs("\nLog file full! Consider increasing \"osdlogcutoff\".\n", osdlog);
log.lines = log.cutoff + 1;
}


.. the application fires up successfully when clicked inside the Finder (it then gives an error, though).
0

User is offline   Hendricks266 

  • Weaponized Autism
  • 6,387

  #161

Weird. Maybe it doesn't like the malloc in Xstrdup at some point before it's properly initialized?
0

User is online   Tekedon 

  • 62

#162

When are you planning to release the next update for this?
0

User is offline   Nuke.YKT 

  • 174

#163

View PostTekedon, on 07 March 2019 - 12:04 PM, said:

When are you planning to release the next update for this?

I dunno. Still have some bugs/features that needed to be fixed/done. Probably it's worth to check out development version(i can send you build via DM if you have no compiler installed).
1

User is online   Tekedon 

  • 62

#164

View PostNukeYKT, on 07 March 2019 - 12:25 PM, said:

I dunno. Still have some bugs/features that needed to be fixed/done. Probably it's worth to check out development version(i can send you build via DM if you have no compiler installed).


Okay, that is great! Sure I would love that! But I'm "old/older" and dumb, what is a DM? xD (I have no no compiler no)
0

User is offline   Mr. Death 

  • 5

#165

View PostNukeYKT, on 07 March 2019 - 12:25 PM, said:

I dunno. Still have some bugs/features that needed to be fixed/done. Probably it's worth to check out development version(i can send you build via DM if you have no compiler installed).

Will the next release possibly have a 32bit version? I'm eager to try out this port!

I would also like to get in on this developer build (if it's 32bit).
0

User is offline   Forge 

  • 8,437

#166

View PostNukeYKT, on 07 March 2019 - 12:25 PM, said:

have no compiler installed

what's a good, free one, for windows 10 (x64)?
0

User is offline   Hendricks266 

  • Weaponized Autism
  • 6,387

  #167

Take your pick.
2

User is offline   TerminX 

  • el fundador
  • 5,570

  #168

If you don't have experience working with Linux-like systems, Visual Studio would probably be your best bet.

EDuke32 wiki svn builds bugs
Join us in #eduke32 on irc.freenode.net!
0

User is offline   geomancien 

  • 23

#169

Powerslave?
0

User is offline   Master O 

  • 87

#170

View Postgeomancien, on 09 March 2019 - 04:37 PM, said:

Powerslave?


One of Iron Maiden's greatest albums.
0

#171

I know it's not entirely necessary for this but is it possible to launch from Steam via the purchased game files? if so, how would i go about doing that? For some other ports you can usually trick Steam by renaming files and what not. I am just unsure what files i might be able to backup and rename etc. or if it will even work this way.
0

User is online   Phredreeke 

  • 391

#172

You could drop NBlood in the same folder and add as a non-Steam game.
0

User is offline   Saucerful 

  • 2

#173

Wow, great work. This port looks very promising. Performance is fantastic and NBlood is perfectly playable with vsync enabled whereas BloodGDX just isn't... and vsync is a must for me. My only comment, and others have noted this as well, is the mouse look seems off. I have to crank my sensitivity up to 2400 dpi (hardware), adjust the slider almost all the way up in the software, and even then it feels like there's some filtering or something going on which I don't experience in any other game. Sorry I can't be more descriptive than that... any idea what's going on there?

This post has been edited by Saucerful: 16 March 2019 - 12:02 PM

2

User is online   Tekedon 

  • 62

#174

 Saucerful, on 16 March 2019 - 11:58 AM, said:

Wow, great work. This port looks very promising. Performance is fantastic and NBlood is perfectly playable with vsync enabled whereas BloodGDX just isn't... and vsync is a must for me. My only comment, and others have noted this as well, is the mouse look seems off. I have to crank my sensitivity up to 2400 dpi (hardware), adjust the slider almost all the way up in the software, and even then it feels like there's some filtering or something going on which I don't experience in any other game. Sorry I can't be more descriptive than that... any idea what's going on there?


And please add some easy way to choose usermaps and addons from within the game :)
0

#175

 thelastdisciple, on 14 March 2019 - 03:37 PM, said:

I know it's not entirely necessary for this but is it possible to launch from Steam via the purchased game files? if so, how would i go about doing that? For some other ports you can usually trick Steam by renaming files and what not. I am just unsure what files i might be able to backup and rename etc. or if it will even work this way.

Found a solution on the Steam forums for Blood, was recommended to use SteamEdit program. Very handy!
0

User is offline   Saucerful 

  • 2

#176

I think I've found an issue. Anisotropy is ignored when texture mode is set to "classic". I don't believe this is desired behaviour... most other source ports I've played (Blood and other games) allow this combination. Probably there is some implicit linear mipmapping or something going on when anisotropy is enabled in those other ports, but either way it would be nice if we could have nearest-neighbor texture mode without the shimmering.

This post has been edited by Saucerful: 27 March 2019 - 07:49 PM

0

User is offline   TerminX 

  • el fundador
  • 5,570

  #177

 Saucerful, on 27 March 2019 - 07:48 PM, said:

I think I've found an issue. Anisotropy is ignored when texture mode is set to "classic". I don't believe this is desired behaviour... most other source ports I've played (Blood and other games) allow this combination. Probably there is some implicit linear mipmapping or something going on when anisotropy is enabled in those other ports, but either way it would be nice if we could have nearest-neighbor texture mode without the shimmering.

It's a bit more complicated than that. Filtering needs to be entirely re-implemented in a shader to be functional here, which itself will require a bit more backend work. The combination "works" in other ports because the other ports don't support true paletted textures being rendered with actual palette effects like they did in the old days, just wasteful load-time conversion to RGB before/during texture upload, which still doesn't allow the result to be shaded the same as the classic renderer.

On the other hand, even though our method requires all texturing be done in the shader itself, it has the major advantage of allowing the OpenGL renderer to achieve nearly 100% accuracy to the original game as far as color reproduction and shading goes.

EDuke32 wiki svn builds bugs
Join us in #eduke32 on irc.freenode.net!
0

User is offline   enderandrew 

  • 13

#178

NBlood has been ported to the Nintendo Switch.

https://gbatemp.net/...-switch.534587/
0

User is offline   NightFright 

  • The Truth is in here
  • 973

#179

 Tekedon, on 16 March 2019 - 12:34 PM, said:

And please add some easy way to choose usermaps and addons from within the game :)

Ideally the same way BloodGDX did. It really can't be easier. It's a big advantage of that port, and there are quite a few amazing Blood addons out there that justify investing time into making it work as smoothly as possible. Ideally, I wished my existing addon folder I made for BloodGDX would work in NBlood without any adjustments.


This post has been edited by NightFright: 28 March 2019 - 01:30 PM

0

User is offline   Saucerful 

  • 2

#180

View PostTerminX, on 27 March 2019 - 08:21 PM, said:

It's a bit more complicated than that. Filtering needs to be entirely re-implemented in a shader to be functional here, which itself will require a bit more backend work. The combination "works" in other ports because the other ports don't support true paletted textures being rendered with actual palette effects like they did in the old days, just wasteful load-time conversion to RGB before/during texture upload, which still doesn't allow the result to be shaded the same as the classic renderer.

On the other hand, even though our method requires all texturing be done in the shader itself, it has the major advantage of allowing the OpenGL renderer to achieve nearly 100% accuracy to the original game as far as color reproduction and shading goes.


Interesting, thanks for the explanation. I'm obviously no expert on OpenGL rendering so I had never considered that. Upon a cursory glance at both NBlood and BloodGDX, the colours do look better in NBlood.

Another question then: instead of allowing anisotropy in "classic" mode, is it possible in "filtered" mode to have the option of using nearest-neighbor for the non-mipmapped textures? Or would that just present the exact same problem you already described?
0

Share this topic:


  • 8 Pages +
  • « First
  • 4
  • 5
  • 6
  • 7
  • 8
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic


All copyrights and trademarks are property of their respective owners. Instead of reading this text, you could be playing Ion Maiden! ;) © 2018 Voidpoint, LLC

Enter your sign in name and password


Sign in options