[Yatta]

I'm engaged in talks with my friend Clint about redoing all the Duke VOC files for the next HRP release.

He's the same guy who helped us make this soundboard: http://www.duke4.net...omment.news.162

Before I tell him to start recording, it'd be nice to have a guarantee that his work will be included in the HRP so that I know he won't be wasting his time recording everything.

What do you guys think?

[The Commander]

It would have to be included as a mod type thing like Duke Plus is as it would require editing the CON's etc so it will use the new sounds.

[Alexraptor]

Well hes pretty good.... but he's no John st. John.
Thats my two bits.

[Spiker]

I think it would be cool

[Danukem]

He's good. Very good, in fact. But I can tell it is not Duke Nukem, and most other people can as well, I'll bet. And I really don't see the point. I've already added a lot of genuine Jon St. John sounds to Duke Plus, and I plan to add more. There is a lot of the real deal out there which hasn't been utilized yet, so there is no reason to resort to an imitation, even if it's a good imitation.

EDIT: I just realized that you weren't just talking about adding new one liners, you are proposing to replace the originals! That makes even less sense imo. They are lines of dialogue, not sound effects -- it doesn't matter much whether they are in stereo or whether the sound quality is super high. Whatever advantages you might get from the higher quality sound would be more than negated by the fact that it is not the real Duke.

[KillerBudgie]

 DeeperThought, on May 17 2009, 06:10 PM, said:

I've already added a lot of genuine Jon St. John sounds to Duke Plus, and I plan to add more.

Yeah. I noticed that you used some quotes from Duke Nukem: Time to Kill, in your latest version of DukePlus. Good quality as well. Add as many as you like, and I'll enjoy Duke Plus even more!

[Hail_Duke]

I'm liking it, it's a really good attempt. I think it'd benefit from having a lower pitch though, maybe about half an octave lower. I think there may be some tuning programs that do this, but I haven't used any before, so I can't recommend any. Also, it'd be a good idea to reduce the noise generated by wind/air. Other than that, it's pretty decent

I might also add that some of the audio clips are better than others. What I'd consider as of a higher standard would be Chicks and Lookin Good, while the not so Dukish one would be something like Let's Rock (too high pitched, not as monotonous as the original). As another comparison, the laughter part in What Mess can be improved on, while the part where Clint says "What a mess" is pretty good

[johndough]

If he could make the clips sound exactly like Duke then I would consider using such clips when I play.

[Piano Man]

I had a listen to him.... but if he made a bunch of Duke Talk quotes...

I sure as shit wouldn't download them... it's just not Duke Nukem when he says it... There is one man and one man only who is Duke....

John St. John....

[Alexraptor]

Anyone actually thought of contacting the man himself and see if he would be willing to redo his classic Duke3D quotes in Hi-Def?
I mean whats the harm?, the worst thing that can happen is that he says no and thats that, and then again he might think its a fun thing to do.
You never know if you dont ask

[BrOiler1985]

Well the guys sounds more like John St. John if you pitch him a little down.

Examples from the Soundboard:

Crysis: http://www.diesoifer...talk/crysis.wav
Pitched down: http://www.diesoifer...rysis_pitch.wav

Unreal: http://www.diesoifer...talk/unreal.wav
Pitched down: http://www.diesoifer...nreal_pitch.wav

GTA: http://www.diesoifer.de/dtalk/gta.wav
Pitched down: http://www.diesoifer...k/gta_pitch.wav

[Piano Man]

 BrOiler1985, on May 18 2009, 09:14 PM, said:

Well the guys sounds more like John St. John if you pitch him a little down.

WHAT??? Are you deaf? He still doesn't sound close to John St. John... and by 'close' I'm being critical... but still...

He still doesn't have the accent either... and you can't just play with the pitch - because that does sweet bugger all to help him sound any more duke-like.

I still stand by my first statement... there is only one Duke... and his name ain't Duke... It's John.

[Danukem]

 Alexraptor, on May 18 2009, 05:03 AM, said:

Anyone actually thought of contacting the man himself and see if he would be willing to redo his classic Duke3D quotes in Hi-Def?
I mean whats the harm?, the worst thing that can happen is that he says no and thats that, and then again he might think its a fun thing to do.
You never know if you dont ask

He charges $50 for every 30 seconds of voice acting last time I checked. That's actually quite reasonable -- you can get a lot of mileage out of 30 seconds. But personally, I would pay him to do new lines, not the old ones again.

[MusicallyInspired]

I think it'd be cool to have higher quality Duke lines....but not included in the HRP. A separate Duke sound pack would be reasonable. I'd probably use it. I'm getting really tired of the lo-fi sound effects next to all the visual and musical enhancements, actually. I quite enjoyed the soundboard, though. I was hoping he'd do something like this eventually, actually. Be real nice if Jon himself could do it, though.

[Alexraptor]

If i'm not mistaken he records 30 secs of voice overs for $50 in a professional capacity.
But this is after all just a fun community project of enhancing duke nukem, its not a commercial product being sold. I mean how many artists have lent their talents to the HRP over the years? for free? Jon seems like a nice guy so whats to say he wouldnt either?

Like i said, there is absolutely no harm in asking, worst thing that can happen is that he declines.

[MusicallyInspired]

But doing voice work is his profession...hence it is a professional capacity. Considering he charges for Duke lines specifically now I don't think he'll make an exception for the HRP.

[Plagman]

That's not necessarily a good point; for example, Hellbound and Roma_Loom charge companies for their modelling/texturing work and yet they're here contributing.

However, I agree and doubt he would do it for free.

[Alexraptor]

Like i said, you knever know if you don't ask.

[Danukem]

 Alexraptor, on May 18 2009, 10:52 AM, said:

Like i said, you knever know if you don't ask.

Go ahead and ask then.

[Alexraptor]

Well i certainly am capable of it if nobody else is...
But I would think you would want somone more senior to the community and perhaps even directly involved in the HRP as a representative than some newbie to the community like me that just waltzed on these boards a few days ago.

[The Commander]

 Alexraptor, on May 20 2009, 05:01 AM, said:

Well i certainly am capable of it if nobody else is...
But I would think you would want somone more senior to the community and perhaps even directly involved in the HRP as a representative than some newbie to the community like me that just waltzed on these boards a few days ago.

But the more senior people of these threads and to Duke already know what the answer is as we have already told you.

[Danukem]

 Alexraptor, on May 19 2009, 10:01 AM, said:

Well i certainly am capable of it if nobody else is...
But I would think you would want somone more senior to the community and perhaps even directly involved in the HRP as a representative than some newbie to the community like me that just waltzed on these boards a few days ago.

JsJ announced publicly that he charges money for precisely this kind of work, and I won't make myself look like an idiot by asking him to do it for free. Plus I don't really care if he records the sound again or not.

[Alexraptor]

 The Commander, on May 19 2009, 07:03 PM, said:

But the more senior people of these threads and to Duke already know what the answer is as we have already told you.

Has anyone actually, dare i say it.....asked, and not just drawn foregone conclusions?
Frankly, i don't think its really big deal if we get the voice-overs in high def or not, i just simply though i would add a constructive suggestion to this discussion.

[Jimmy]

No offense to Clint, at all, but I don't like his impression. Jon St. John is the only Duke.

[MusicallyInspired]

 Alexraptor, on May 19 2009, 02:18 PM, said:

Has anyone actually, dare i say it.....asked, and not just drawn foregone conclusions?
Frankly, i don't think its really big deal if we get the voice-overs in high def or not, i just simply though i would add a constructive suggestion to this discussion.

It's not a drawn foregone conclusion. It's fact. Jon St. John charges for any Duke lines people want him to do. It's on his website. He's not going to make exceptions because then everybody will say "can u mak an axception 4 me? its for a mod! lolz."

[Parkar]

 MusicallyInspired, on May 20 2009, 03:28 AM, said:

It's not a drawn foregone conclusion. It's fact. Jon St. John charges for any Duke lines people want him to do. It's on his website. He's not going to make exceptions because then everybody will say "can u mak an axception 4 me? its for a mod! lolz."

In fact he charges a lot more for stuff that's public then the price he lists for personal use. There is a thread somewhere on the 3DR Forums where a guy had him record a line that he posted on a website and he had to pay a higher price. He didn't say how high just that it was a lot more expensive then a line you are justing going to put on your answering machine or something like that.

[Jukno Kim]

Hey guys, check this out:
"For $300, We Can Put Duke Nukem in Left 4 Dead"

[Yatta]

 Jukno Kim, on Jun 2 2009, 10:44 AM, said:

Hey guys, check this out:
"For $300, We Can Put Duke Nukem in Left 4 Dead"

Frankly the idea sounds silly and irrelevant to me.

I like Jon St. John, I do. But it's just a silly idea and it could be a scam on the part of the guy who claims he'll use all the money for that purpose.

Edit: Also, please use this thread for discussing that. Thanks!

[MusicallyInspired]

Maybe we could pay him to redo all the lines for the HRP in high quality.....

[Striker]

Or, Possibly figure out how to get the Sounds from the PSX Version of Duke3D; Duke Nukem: Total Meltdown. It had the exact lines in Duke3D, plus some... In MUCH higher sound quality.