[VGames]

So I have destructible gibs in my mod and of course they have their cstats set up to take hitscan damage and block. It all works great but is there any way to keep the player from bobbing up and down when walking over gibs? It’s not a huge issue but it can be annoying in certain situations due to the player kind of sliding down and off the gibs when on top of them. Could I maybe set their clip dist to something to keep this from happening without removing their ability to be destroyed by bullets?

[Danukem]

VGames, on 01 March 2023 - 06:57 AM, said:

So I have destructible gibs in my mod and of course they have their cstats set up to take hitscan damage and block. It all works great but is there any way to keep the player from bobbing up and down when walking over gibs? It’s not a huge issue but it can be annoying in certain situations due to the player kind of sliding down and off the gibs when on top of them. Could I maybe set their clip dist to something to keep this from happening without removing their ability to be destroyed by bullets?

Hey VGames, this isn't an answer to your question but I feel I need to say something about the Savior Of Babes mod that you released recently. I downloaded it today and took a look. It has a lot of material, both art and code that have been taken from other projects. I think the amount of stuff taken from other EDuke32 projects is excessive and that the credits are grossly inadequate given how much you have taken. For example in my case there are whole scripts files for enemies that I wrote (some still have my name on them; I guess I should see that as a positive) and other code for very tricky things such as the lightsaber animation display. Also, there is lots of art for enemies made by sebabdukeboss20. That is not an exhaustive list, just some things I noticed.

I graciously helped you with your code questions, for example in this thread: https://forums.duke4...babes-dev-help/ but if I had known this was your plan I honestly would not have helped, and now this makes me less likely to help others. That's why I think it's relevant to mention it in this thread.

I don't think that you are being malicious. In fact I'm pretty sure that you are just having a good time making your mod and that you do appreciate all the help and resources at your disposal. I imagine that you are an eager young person who just wants to make a fun mod and had no intention of ruffling feathers. But I don't think you understand how it feels if you have been slaving away on projects for many years and then someone comes along and uses your stuff without permission and then gets credit for it from youtubers and other people who just think it is a cool mod without realizing how much of it was made by other people who didn't consent.

In your readme you do have a thanks section where you list various mods that you have learned/taken stuff from. What I'm saying is that it is grossly inadequate to just list a mod and say thanks for "sprites and coding features" if you have largely copied and pasted significant amounts of someone else's work without their permission. Now as a modder I do understand that we "borrow" a lot of stuff! But there are rules we try should follow. The most important one to me is that if we are using significant amounts of content from another in mod our own community that we discuss it with those mod authors first and get their permission to include it. In some cases we have a working relationship with each other -- for example, between AMC TC and Alien Armageddon, but that is because we share team members and the traffic goes both ways.

[VGames]

My apologies I didn’t think it would be a big deal since credit was given for everything I borrowed. I never claimed to make everything on my own and I do intend to elaborate a lot more on the read me which includes the thank you section. This is just a pre 1.0 release and there is still much more to do. But I will definitely clarify a lot more in the thank you section for the next release. I hope I didn’t upset you. I won’t be adding content from other mods from here on out. I have a good base to work with now.
I’m not young by any means. I’ve been modding for a long time across many games and I’ve borrowed from other’s mods the entire way. And I’ve given thanks exactly like this with every mod. So I didn’t see an issue with how I went about it since I’ve been doing it like this since my very first release of a mod without anybody saying anything. People have already come to me asking about some of the resources I got because they were interested in playing the mods that I borrowed from, I’m referring to newcomers of course. I have a decent following and people know my capabilities by now so they know I didn’t make this stuff all by myself. And I am the first person to put in a good word for the mods that I took resources from. Plus I seriously doubt the vast majority who play my mod haven’t played any of your work. No way would they not know where some of the resources in my mod came from. Your work is legendary

[Danukem]

VGames, on 01 March 2023 - 06:57 AM, said:

So I have destructible gibs in my mod and of course they have their cstats set up to take hitscan damage and block. It all works great but is there any way to keep the player from bobbing up and down when walking over gibs? It’s not a huge issue but it can be annoying in certain situations due to the player kind of sliding down and off the gibs when on top of them. Could I maybe set their clip dist to something to keep this from happening without removing their ability to be destroyed by bullets?

I don't see why you would want to make them blocking at all though. Hittable, yes, but why blocking?

EDIT: And in case anyone was wondering -- there is not going to be an ongoing beef about the credits thing as far as I am concerned as long as it is handled in the way we talked about over DMs, so that's now over in this thread.

[VGames]

Agreed on the credits issue.

Back to my question. How do I make them destructible with bullets and explosions without making them blocking? I thought this was the only way.

EDIT
ok I get it. Only cstat 256 is needed. I feel stupid now. Carry on people.

[Danukem]

VGames, on 02 March 2023 - 05:14 PM, said:

Agreed on the credits issue.

Back to my question. How do I make them destructible with bullets and explosions without making them blocking? I thought this was the only way.

EDIT
ok I get it. Only cstat 256 is needed. I feel stupid now. Carry on people.

It's as simple as not setting the blocking bit in their cstat. The blocking bit is the first bit. So literally any even numbered cstat value will be non-blocking (0, 4, 8, etc) Add the 256 to that for hittable

[VGames]

Ok so I was putting together a new episode with custom slaughter maps. For some reason I can't get the second map to start after the first map is completed. It just plays the first map again. But if I play through the first map the second time it's loaded up it will continue on to the second map like it should have done the first time. Has anybody had this issue? I know I have everything set up properly in the USER.CON file. I have named the maps E5L1, E5L2, E5L3, etc. This also happens when I skip to the first map of the new episode. What could be causing this?

[lllllllllllllll]

Does your client have 5 episodes by default? Could be something with how you're adding one

[VGames]

I figured it out. The map in question was using the MP version of the nuke button because it’s palette was set to 1.

[lllllllllllllll]

I don't understand how/why this is causing the kicking action and ifpdistl {} to loop forever. From the duke_grunt it sounds like the actioncount is hitting 2 and then resetting which makes me think the move is resetting it but the change to action (AJAGES) is being ignored.

action AJAGEKICK 41 2 1 1 12 //stuck on this action

state jagekick
  ifaction AJAGEKICK  //this should have become false after 2 frames
  {
    ifactioncount 2
    {
      ifpdistl 1152  //duke_grunt,pal, hp loss is spammed during the loop
      {
        sound DUKE_GRUNT
        palfrom 8 32
        addphealth -8
        getactor[THISACTOR].ang queens
        cos queenx queens
        sin queeny queens
        findnearactor APLAYER 1152 queenz
        movesprite queenz queenx queeny 0 CLIPMASK0 queens
      }
      move JAGESTOPPED faceplayerslow
      action AJAGES  //this line is not taking effect; ai should remain AIJAGEKICK with action AJAGES for use in svolley state
    }
  }
  else
  state svolley
ends

state jageseekstate
  ifcansee
  {
    ifaction AJAGEC
    {
      ifcount 24
        state cvolley
      break
    }
    else
    ifaction AJAGECFLASH
    {
      state cvolley
      break
    }
    ifpdistl 1280
      ifrnd 160
      {
        sound JGKICK
        ai AIJAGEKICK //Only call for kicking ai in the actor
        break
      }
//(truncated)
ends

...
    ifai AIJAGESEEKENEMY
      state jageseekstate
    else
    ifai AIJAGEKICK
      state jagekick
...

[Danukem]

lllllllllllllll, on 14 March 2023 - 05:55 PM, said:

the change to action (AJAGES) is being ignored.

How have you verified that? If it was me I would have it log a variable or spawn an explosion or something when it reached the line, so that I would know for sure if it wasn't reaching it. Otherwise, it's possible that it is getting set for 1 or 2 tics and then some other part of your code you aren't showing is resetting the AI back to the AJAGEKICK action.

[lllllllllllllll]

It is as you said. Spawning an enemy on the next line was popping out squads

[Danukem]

lllllllllllllll, on 14 March 2023 - 09:11 PM, said:

It is as you said. Spawning an enemy on the next line was popping out squads

Did you actually look at your log when this is happening and verify there are no errors? I think there is an error:

findnearactor APLAYER 1152 queenz
movesprite queenz queenx queeny 0 CLIPMASK0 queens

The APLAYER sprite is not an actor (actor is defined as statnum 1). The player has a special statnum and will not be found by that command. This means that your queenz var is being set to -1. On the next line, you are using movesprite on sprite -1. This will cause an error, aborting code execution of that state, making it not reach the action set.

Instead of using those two lines, use this one line:

movesprite player[].i queenz queeny 0 CLIPMASK0 queens

[lllllllllllllll]

The log for what I was using was filled with invalid move spam ><

To check I had put a spawn below the action AJAGES at the bottom so it's strange that was working but neither the action nor the state following it ever did.
Using player[]i stopped the loop but the movement only works on duke's corpse.

[Danukem]

lllllllllllllll, on 15 March 2023 - 12:34 AM, said:

The log for what I was using was filled with invalid move spam ><

To check I had put a spawn below the action AJAGES at the bottom so it's strange that was working but neither the action nor the state following it ever did.
Using player[]i stopped the loop but the movement only works on duke's corpse.

I correctly diagnosed your problem. But no, movesprite will not move a live player. You would need to directly set the player's posxv and posyv, or alternatively fvel and svel in the input struct.

[VGames]

Is the way map objects like cardboard boxes, tires, or palm trees catch on fire when damaged by weapons hardcoded? Is there any way to manipulate the way they react to certain damage types so that they don’t always just catch on fire?

[Danukem]

Yes and probably.