[lllllllllllllll]

One other thing was I indexed all of the BOSS4 sprites I drew to duke's palette to reduce the size. Their appearance didn't change ingame since it was being converted to 8bit already but the previous files were 32bit with translucent pixels.
After doing this the load time dropped quite a bit and that was about when I was trying out the htflag.

[VGames]

Is there a way to force walls, floors, and ceilings to allow bullet holes? I've noticed that on some walls especially bullet holes simply do not appear. I've tried using damageeventtile to force the specific texture to use the same settings as other wall textures but there's no change.

[Aleks]

VGames, on 02 January 2023 - 10:35 AM, said:

Is there a way to force walls, floors, and ceilings to allow bullet holes? I've noticed that on some walls especially bullet holes simply do not appear. I've tried using damageeventtile to force the specific texture to use the same settings as other wall textures but there's no change.

This is probably due to these walls being parts of moving sectors (like doors), the bulletholes won't appear on them, as they wouldn't be carried along (and would look stupid just hanging there in the air if the door moves ), remember bulletholes are essentially wall-aligned sprites.

[lllllllllllllll]

You'll end up with decals on exploded walls too.
You should be able to spawn a wall aligned decal on the event where the bullet impacts by getting the angle to the wall etc to get around the default setting preventing it though you'll want to delete them whenever that wall shifts, with the exception of the decal sitting in a rotating sector. If the original decal won't spawn make a dupe of it.

-
Is there a way to pass down a projectile's palette to the sprite it spawns on impact (proj_spawns)? This projectile is using noshade and taking on the palette from the actor shooting it

[Danukem]

Grab palette off the owner in EVENT_EGS. Or anything else you need to grab. That's going to come up for a lot of stuff, so make a note of that everyone.

[VGames]

Ok so I should just leave the walls alone then. I don’t want to add more problems to my plate.

How do I code this model to use different skins for different palettes?

model "models/nailgun/nailgun.MD2" {
   scale 20
   skin { pal 0 file "models/nailgun/nailgun.png" }

   anim { frame0 "shot1" frame1 "shot1" fps 4  }
   frame { frame "shot1" tile0 6872 tile1 6872 }

   anim { frame0 "shot2" frame1 "shot9" fps 40  }
   frame { frame "shot2" tile0 6873 tile1 6874 }	

   hud { tile0 6872 tile1 6874 xadd -0.38 yadd 0.3 zadd 0 angadd 0 }
}

[Danukem]

Just add another skin clause, exactly like the one it has already, but make it for pal # and refer to whatever the file name is for the other one.

[MC84]

Following on from my last query re: custom explosions, how the heck do you override EXPLOSION2's default action EXPLOSION_FRAMES (20 by default)? I have two alternate explosions, SMOKEBLAST1 (16 frames) and SMOKEBLAST2 (33 frames) but they will both play 20 frames when spawned.

action EXPLOSION_FRAMES 0 20 1 1  4
action ASMOKEBLAST1 3743 16 1 1 8 // 3743 tiles from original EXPLOSION2 (1890) = 5633
action ASMOKEBLAST2 3763 33 1 1 4
actor EXPLOSION2 1 EXPLOSION_FRAMES
{
  ife extrasaved 1 
   ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES
    { action ASMOKEBLAST1 cstat 0 }
  
  else
  ife extrasaved 2
   ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES
   { action ASMOKEBLAST2 cstat 0 }
   
  else
   { ifactioncount 20 
     killit
   }
}
enda

I have also tried placing a CACTOR command, but this just froze the actions on their first frame when spawned;

{
  ife extrasaved 1 
   ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES
    { 
	 cactor SMOKEBLAST1
	 action ASMOKEBLAST1 cstat 0 }

And I tried placing the following in EVENT_EGS;

  case EXPLOSION2 // Alternate explosions
  { 
   ifn sprite[].owner -1   // owner being the SEENINE sprite that spawned the EXPLOSION2 actor
   getav[sprite[].owner].extrasaved extrasaved
   
   ife extrasaved 1
    {
	 ifactioncount 16
	 killit
	}
   else
   
   ife extrasaved 2
    {
	 ifactioncount 33
	 killit
	}
    else nullop	
  }
  break

But that doesn't seem to do anything either...

[Danukem]

action EXPLOSION_FRAMES 0 20 1 1  4
action ASMOKEBLAST1 3743 16 1 1 8 // 3743 tiles from original EXPLOSION2 (1890) = 5633
action ASMOKEBLAST2 3763 33 1 1 4
actor EXPLOSION2 1 EXPLOSION_FRAMES

  ife extrasaved 1 
   ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES
    { action ASMOKEBLAST1 cstat 0 }
  
  else
  ife extrasaved 2
   ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES
   { action ASMOKEBLAST2 cstat 0 }
   
ifaction EXPLOSION_FRAMES
   ifactioncount 20 
     killit
else
ifaction ASMOKEBLAST1 
  ifactioncount 16
      killit
else
ifaction ASMOKEBLAST2
   ifactioncount 33
      killit

enda

Just change the actor, don't try to mess with the animations in EGS

[VGames]

Yeah that kind of stuff dealing with animations needs to be taken care of in the actor’s body of code.

[lllllllllllllll]

VGames, on 02 January 2023 - 04:21 PM, said:

Ok so I should just leave the walls alone then. I don’t want to add more problems to my plate.

The one thing that should be ok in every case is adding decals to sector 0 masked walls only if you can find a way to exempt textures with alpha. I can't think of any cases where a solid masked surface would create trouble having a bullet hole on it.

[VGames]

@Dan
Ok so this:

model "models/nailgun/nailgun.MD2" {
   scale 20
   skin { pal 0 file "models/nailgun/nailgun.png" }
   skin { pal 1 file "models/nailgun/nailgunB.png" }
   skin { pal 2 file "models/nailgun/nailgunR.png" }
   skin { pal 8 file "models/nailgun/nailgunG.png" }

   anim { frame0 "shot1" frame1 "shot1" fps 4  }
   frame { frame "shot1" tile0 6872 tile1 6872 }

   anim { frame0 "shot2" frame1 "shot9" fps 40  }
   frame { frame "shot2" tile0 6873 tile1 6874 }

   hud { tile0 6872 tile1 6874 xadd -0.38 yadd 0.3 zadd 0 angadd 0 }
}

does nothing for the view model of the gun. I tried the multiple skin lines like you said for the pickup model for the weapon and it worked just like you said it would:

model "models/nailgun_pick/nailgun_pick.md2" {
   scale 2.6 shade 0
   skin { pal 0 file "models/nailgun_pick/nailgun_pick.png" }
   skin { pal 1 file "models/nailgun_pick/nailgun_pickB.png" }
   skin { pal 2 file "models/nailgun_pick/nailgun_pickR.png" }
   skin { pal 8 file "models/nailgun_pick/nailgun_pickG.png" }

   anim { frame0 "shot1" frame1 "shot1" fps 4  } 
   frame { frame "shot1" tile0 6871 tile1 6871 }
}

But for the view model it does nothing. Only the pal 0 skin is used.

[Danukem]

Yeah hud models are a different beast. There's even a whole set of hud commands for models on the wiki: https://wiki.eduke32...wiki/Model_(DEF)

I don't know if you can make them use different pals, though, I don't recall ever trying that.

[VGames]

Danukem, on 03 January 2023 - 08:13 PM, said:

Yeah hud models are a different beast. There's even a whole set of hud commands for models on the wiki: https://wiki.eduke32...wiki/Model_(DEF)

I don't know if you can make them use different pals, though, I don't recall ever trying that.

Ok cool. I’ll check this stuff out again. Maybe I missed something

[MC84]

What is the best way to create an actor that has multiple damage levels? The following code gets stuck after the first ifstrength statement;

useractor notenemy DOORBOARDED 120
{
 cstat 273 // blocked, hittable
 ifaction 0
  {
   ifhitweapon
    { ifstrength 100
      action ONE 
      break 
     }
    else
    { ifstrength 80
      action TWO 
      break 
     }
    else 
    { ifstrength 60
      action THREE 
      break 
    }
   else
   { ifstrength 40 
     action FOUR 
     break 
    }
   else
   { ifstrength 20
     action FIVE 
     break 
    }
   else
   { ifstrength 0
     killit 
    }
   }
}
enda
	

[Danukem]

MC84, on 05 January 2023 - 12:56 PM, said:

What is the best way to create an actor that has multiple damage levels?

It's easy enough, but first we need to get clear on the intent. What is supposed to happen if you do enough damage to reduce it multiple levels in one hit? Do you want it reduced by only one damage level anyway?

[MC84]

Danukem, on 05 January 2023 - 01:13 PM, said:

It's easy enough, but first we need to get clear on the intent. What is supposed to happen if you do enough damage to reduce it multiple levels in one hit? Do you want it reduced by only one damage level anyway?

Well I guess in my simplistic understanding I assumed that the 'ifhitweapon' branch included the multiple else statements to handle the possibility that you shoot the actor with an RPG and it takes it down multiple levels... Those actions are relative to the zero/default tile of the actor right? So if the actor was hit by a weapon, and it takes the damage down to 20 (from 120), then action 5 will skip ahead to the 5th damaged state of the actor right? I mean obviously it's not working - but that was the intent!

[VGames]

MC84, on 05 January 2023 - 02:05 PM, said:

Well I guess in my simplistic understanding I assumed that the 'ifhitweapon' branch included the multiple else statements to handle the possibility that you shoot the actor with an RPG and it takes it down multiple levels... Those actions are relative to the zero/default tile of the actor right? So if the actor was hit by a weapon, and it takes the damage down to 20 (from 120), then action 5 will skip ahead to the 5th damaged state of the actor right? I mean obviously it's not working - but that was the intent!

Something like this should work:

useractor notenemy DOORBOARDED 120
{
 	cstat 273 // blocked, hittable
 	ifaction 0
  	{
   		ifhitweapon
		{
    			ifstrength 100
			{
      			action ONE 
      			break
			}
    			else	ifstrength 80
			{
     	 			action TWO 
      			break 
     			}
    			else ifstrength 60
			{
      			action THREE 
      			break 
    			}
   			else ifstrength 40
			{
     				action FOUR 
     				break 
    			}
   			else ifstrength 20
			{
     				action FIVE 
     				break 
    			}
   			else
     				killit 
   		}
   	}
}
enda

Notice where the brackets are.

[VGames]

Is there any way to check what HUD is being used as in the HUD you pick by pressing the - or = keys? I tried messing around with "statubarrange" by getting the value and saving it in a variable, but I don't know what the number is for the specific HUD type I'm trying to mess with.

[MC84]

VGames, on 05 January 2023 - 05:29 PM, said:

Something like this should work:

Notice where the brackets are.

Thanks for trying to help - however now when I shoot the actor it goes straight to killit... Although you have taught me something - I now realize that the brackets should have followed the else if statements.

[Reaper_Man]

MC84, on 05 January 2023 - 12:56 PM, said:

What is the best way to create an actor that has multiple damage levels? The following code gets stuck after the first ifstrength statement;

The way "ifstrength" works is it returns true if the health value is less than or equal to X. The reason it gets stuck after the first one is because every value is less than or equal to 100, so it never enters the other branches. You should be able to easily fix this by ordering your ifstrength statements from lowest to highest, rather than highest to lowest. Also, yes the bracket should go after the next if statement, not after else

ifstrength 20
{
	// something
}
else
ifstrength 40
{
	// something else
}

etc.

[lllllllllllllll]

MC84, on 05 January 2023 - 12:56 PM, said:

What is the best way to create an actor that has multiple damage levels? The following code gets stuck after the first ifstrength statement;

useractor notenemy DOORBOARDED 120
{
 cstat 273 // blocked, hittable
 ifaction 0
  {
   ifhitweapon
    { ifstrength 100
      action ONE 
      break 
     }
    else
    { ifstrength 80
      action TWO 
      break 
     }
    else 
    { ifstrength 60
      action THREE 
      break 
    }
   else
   { ifstrength 40 
     action FOUR 
     break 
    }
   else
   { ifstrength 20
     action FIVE 
     break 
    }
   else
   { ifstrength 0
     killit 
    }
   }
}
enda
	

It's getting stuck because all of that only fires on IFACTION 0. Changing the action to anything else stops meeting that condition.
After that it is getting stuck on the first strength check because 'ifstrength 100' is true until death (if strength <= 100).

Spoiler

To get unskippable phases I think a good method is action to action

useractor notenemy DOORBOARDED 120
  cstat 273
  ifhitweapon
  {
    ifaction FIVE
      ifdead
        killit
    ifaction FOUR
      ifstrength 20
        action FIVE
    ifaction THREE
      ifstrength 40
        action FOUR
    ifaction TWO
      ifstrength 60
        action THREE
    ifaction ONE
      ifstrength 80
        action TWO
    ifaction 0
      ifstrength 100
        action ONE
  }

Arrange them with the final action first to prevent skipping phases without using break.
Making the action a preequisite stops animated actions from being reset when a hit doesn't bump the actor into the next phase.

[MC84]

Thanks guys! I appreciate the help!

[VGames]

VGames, on 05 January 2023 - 05:32 PM, said:

Is there any way to check what HUD is being used as in the HUD you pick by pressing the - or = keys? I tried messing around with "statusbarrange" by getting the value and saving it in a variable, but I don't know what the number is for the specific HUD type I'm trying to mess with.

Still looking for some help with this if it’s even possible.

But also wanted to ask if “digitalnumber” is deprecated now what is its replacement?

[Reaper_Man]

You want the screen_size userdef property.

https://wiki.eduke32...iki/Screen_size

Screentext should be used for all HUD text drawing. At the bottom of the wiki page are examples on how to convert deprecated screen text commands to screentext.

https://wiki.eduke32...wiki/Screentext

[VGames]

Reaper_Man, on 06 January 2023 - 10:41 AM, said:

You want the screen_size userdef property.

https://wiki.eduke32...iki/Screen_size

Screentext should be used for all HUD text drawing. At the bottom of the wiki page are examples on how to convert deprecated screen text commands to screentext.

https://wiki.eduke32...wiki/Screentext

This is what I’ve been looking for thanks

[jimbob]

i want to use EVENT_SOUND to check if a sound if playing, then use rotatesprite to display a subtitle for it, adding a regular quote works fine, but rotatesprite doesnt seem to work the way it should... well i am guessing it triggers for a single tick then stops so the graphic isnt displayed correctly. any way to make the graphic stay on screen longer?
i use this in event_sound

case PSA1 { quote 125 rotatesprite 0 0 65536 0 6282 0 0 0 0 0 xdim ydim } break

so the quote works fine, but tile 6282 isnt rendered, or too briefly to be seen.

[Reaper_Man]

That's likely correct, it would only be displaying for a single gametic when EVENT_SOUND captures the sound playback. EVENT_SOUND only triggers when a sound is played, NOT while a sound is playing. What you can do is create a subtitle timer gamevar, and in EVENT_SOUND set the timer, then in a DISPLAYREST event, display the subtitle if the timer is non-zero. You don't want to decrement the timer in DISPLAYREST because that's tied to the player's framerate, so you'll want a separate EVENT_WORLD or similar event to decrement the timer down to zero.

[jimbob]

i got it working i did do it all in event EVENT_DISPLAYREST but thats something i'll fix this afternoon, for now it works thanks

[VGames]

Is there a sprite flag that can keep sprites from reacting to the dynamic lights when using Polymer?