
Shadow Warrior: Deadly Kiss restoration project "No, the project is not dead."
#91 Posted 08 June 2017 - 12:40 AM
#92 Posted 08 June 2017 - 01:07 AM
Hendricks266, on 08 June 2017 - 12:40 AM, said:
So it was stolen? If I'm going to tell someone it was stolen I need to have more information. In your OP of this thread there was no mention of any terms or conditions specified by Joe Wilcox (The IP owner?) when he sent the data. We were given to understand that it was a gift to the community. Well, if someone on your team shared it with someone else in the community, and that person shared it with someone else, and then it ended up in Robman's hands (who is definitely part of the SW community), then it's not clear that anything was stolen.
#93 Posted 08 June 2017 - 01:17 AM
#94 Posted 08 June 2017 - 01:29 AM
TerminX, on 08 June 2017 - 01:17 AM, said:
Look I get that it's not cool. And believe me, I have no desire to see a red nail polish edition of DK with Lo Wang's hands. But that statement you just made raises more questions. You said that Joe Wilcox wanted to "find" the original contracts, implying that he doesn't have them and doesn't know what they say. Also that he didn't want the data released until that find and review was completed. Strange, because that same condition would then surely apply to Hendricks266's team as well, and yet no one seemed concerned about it. What if Joe was unable to find the contracts? Would that mean that Team Hendricks would not release DK even if they had finished it? What if something was found in the contracts that made release a bad idea? It's funny, because we were led to believe that Team Hendricks was free and clear to develop and release, but now it sounds like they actually weren't.
#95 Posted 08 June 2017 - 01:47 AM
#96 Posted 08 June 2017 - 01:50 AM
Trooper Dan, on 08 June 2017 - 01:29 AM, said:
I'm not sure why you'd need any of that information just to be able to tell someone "this was stolen, refer to the following post for more information."
#97 Posted 08 June 2017 - 01:56 AM
#98 Posted 08 June 2017 - 02:09 AM
TerminX, on 08 June 2017 - 01:47 AM, said:
Hey, it was stuff that you brought up yourself. It's not like I was trying to derail the thread by introducing an irrelevant topic.
I will shut up after this post, though. I was just trying to point out that most of us aren't privy to how the data was given to you guys or what the terms and conditions were, so we aren't in a position to say whether it was "stolen". For all we knew, Mr. Wilcox had sent it along with a note that said "this is my gift to your community, share it with whomever you want." Evidently that's not the case.
#99 Posted 08 June 2017 - 02:10 AM
#100 Posted 08 June 2017 - 03:50 AM
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#101 Posted 08 June 2017 - 04:03 AM
#102 Posted 08 June 2017 - 05:04 AM
Hendricks266, on 08 June 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:
This is an unauthorized distribution of copyrighted material and I ask the community's help in stamping it out.
I don't fucking understand why this guy keeps doing stupid shit. Unfortunately at this point, I would assume anyone who really cares about the data already has it.
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#103 Posted 08 June 2017 - 05:12 AM
Hendricks266, on 08 June 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:
Why is this so hard to understand for some people.
Likely you've (whoever you are) fucked up the reputation of the entire community as well. What is the likelihood of anyone ever coming forth with assets of unreleased or unfinished projects surrounding the BUILD engine now that you have created complete distrust? Well done.
#104 Posted 08 June 2017 - 05:21 AM
And complete distrust to whom? You, I'd say.
You're only saying these things because you feel ownership over it. But guess what, the ownership isn't truly yours.
#106 Posted 08 June 2017 - 06:08 AM
LeoTCK, on 08 June 2017 - 05:21 AM, said:
I'm sticking to the plan we've had from the get-go, like I'm supposed to. We have an all-encompassing plan ready to go at a moments notice.
I wasn't directing the post at you, either, no reason to get upset. Unless of course you leaked the data.
#107 Posted 08 June 2017 - 06:19 AM
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#111 Posted 08 June 2017 - 06:38 AM
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#112 Posted 08 June 2017 - 06:39 AM
Is there a possibility that he may have shared the dk material with someone other than Hendricks (& apparently Leo)?
Is the released material the raw stuff, or does it contain any work done by the team?
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#113 Posted 08 June 2017 - 06:41 AM
MusicallyInspired, on 08 June 2017 - 06:38 AM, said:
Part of a team, but not the dev team.
#114 Posted 08 June 2017 - 06:48 AM
Jimmy, on 08 June 2017 - 06:41 AM, said:
Glad you guys found out who leaked it. I would anticipate Robman starting a rouge dev team, whose sole purpose, is to finish up DK before you guys do. It's really sad how petty some of these SW fans are.
#115 Posted 08 June 2017 - 06:52 AM
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#117 Posted 08 June 2017 - 07:21 AM
Daedolon, on 08 June 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:
Its just sad watching untalented fucks derail development being done by people that actually have talent. I guess its too much to ask for Robman and his followers to come up with a original mod idea and figure out how to implement it :(.
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#118 Posted 08 June 2017 - 03:39 PM
icecoldduke, on 08 June 2017 - 06:48 AM, said:
Don't think so. Why leak the unfinished content then? He just wanted to take it apart and release the bits, which is why he wanted the team behind the restoration project to hurry.
They might try to make a mod out of it or even finish it themselves, but it's not exactly easy considering even the protagonist is different and requires new voice (as it's a woman).
#119 Posted 08 June 2017 - 05:36 PM
i'm not 'in the know', so as far as I can tell, it's all based on nothing more than assumptions.
can someone please provide some poof of who 'leaked' the material.
can someone also please provide some proof that robman is behind it - because all I see is corvin involved in promoting the hosting and spread of the DK files.
#120 Posted 08 June 2017 - 05:43 PM
Forge, on 08 June 2017 - 05:36 PM, said:
i'm not 'in the know', so as far as I can tell, it's all based on nothing more than assumptions.
can someone please provide some poof of who 'leaked' the material.
can someone also please provide some proof that robman is behind it - because all I see is corvin involved in promoting the hosting and spread of the DK files.
We logged LeoTCK accessing a forgotten copy of the data on our server at the end of last month, and Robman accessing it 2 days later. Robman spammed links to it all over our Discord and gave it to Corvin to release in retaliation for banning him. It's very clear what happened and there is zero ambiguity in any of it.