[MusicallyInspired]

This is a 20th anniversary event. They took down all other versions and repackaged it with a brand new episode with some of the original developers. It's not the same.

[AdrenalinDragon]

AP Dukefan94, on 02 November 2016 - 03:40 PM, said:

I find it funny how peolpe complain about the new boss being a re-skin and all, but are perfectly fine the Sunstorm expansions that reused the same Cycloid albeit DC:LAB.

Yeah, but Duke it Out in D.C was basically a map pack. This is the official 5th episode of Duke Nukem 3D, so we expected something completely new for the final boss.

[Fox]

AP Dukefan94, on 02 November 2016 - 03:40 PM, said:

I find it funny how peolpe complain about the new boss being a re-skin and all, but are perfectly fine the Sunstorm expansions that reused the same Cycloid albeit DC:LAB. So is it still bad even on "Damn, I'm Good" difficulty?

Caribbean was not meant to be an official fifth episode.

[Doom64hunter]

It looks the sound quality is now great for all .oggs
The remaining issues with missing files for the remote ridicule taunts were also fixed.

Edit:

Also, they made all 5 bosses and the pigcop tank immune to flinching when hit by flamethrower projectiles.
(At least the hitstate isn't checked any more, which means that they also won't spawn blood or scrap when being hit by the flamethrower)

I also found notes about a spectating system in strings.txt

Quote

//Text added after 9.22.16

#SpectateSystem "SPECTATE SYSTEM"
#Spectating "Spectating"
#SpectatingCap "SPECTATING"
#AutoAim "AUTO AIM"
#AutoAimOn "AUTO AIM ON"
#AutoAimOff "AUTO AIM OFF"
#ToggleAutoAim "TOGGLE AUTO AIM"

[NightFright]

I think from my list with issues, only these things are really still kinda annoying now:

> All minibosses with strength of full bosses if not spritepal 0, 21 or 22
> After freezing an Octobrain on fire and letting it return to normal, it'll be back with red palette
> Alien Queen bleeding red instead of green
> Exiting E1L7 within episode doesn't return you to E1L5, but E1L6 (hardcoded secret nukebutton behavior)

I doubt these will get addressed, however. Especially the issue with E1L7 since you would probably have to edit existing levels to bypass this problem.

[MetHy]

I think there is something wrong with the autoaim. Twice I disabled it, and it got re-enabled without my doing. I didn't even load a save or anything.

[Tea Monster]

How is MP with this port? I've heard bad things.

[Micky C]

MetHy, on 03 November 2016 - 04:20 AM, said:

I think there is something wrong with the autoaim. Twice I disabled it, and it got re-enabled without my doing. I didn't even load a save or anything.

I had an issue like that with Megaton. I'd be playing multiplayer trying to switch it off, but it'd keep randomly switching itself back on. Perhaps it's a bug from the original executable.

[Daedolon]

Disabling autoaim is an EDuke32 only feature.

[Doom64hunter]

NightFright, on 03 November 2016 - 02:29 AM, said:

I think from my list with issues, only these things are really still kinda annoying now:

> All minibosses with strength of full bosses if not spritepal 0, 21 or 22
> After freezing an Octobrain on fire and letting it return to normal, it'll be back with red palette
> Alien Queen bleeding red instead of green
> Exiting E1L7 within episode doesn't return you to E1L5, but E1L6 (hardcoded secret nukebutton behavior)

I doubt these will get addressed, however. Especially the issue with E1L7 since you would probably have to edit existing levels to bypass this problem.

What annoys me still is the mouse control and the weapon switching.
This is also the only source port I've ever seen for any game that doesn't recognize the Swiss [ and ] keys, so switching inventory items is a hassle for me too.

[axl]

Doom64hunter, on 03 November 2016 - 08:17 AM, said:

What annoys me still is the mouse control and the weapon switching.
This is also the only source port I've ever seen for any game that doesn't recognize the Swiss [ and ] keys, so switching inventory items is a hassle for me too.

This. Is there any way to disable the weapon selection wheel? This actually got me killed several times in Come Get Some. It's just far too slow in the heat of battle. Would be great if this thing was optional.

[Merlijn]

I'm glad they fixed the sound, that was my biggest issue.

BTW I found another secret area in High times. The rooftops next to stripclub are accessible and give you the RPG early on. Pretty cool.

[Jimmy]

PikaCommando, on 30 October 2016 - 10:53 AM, said:

Why did they give up the red/black color scheme for the aliens, like in the older Trooper/Enforcer sprites? It's a lot cooler than the plain one-color armor they wear.

Blue armour can have palettes applied.

I, on 30 October 2016 - 04:42 PM, said:

That's a good point, and entirely true. I was referring to the game itself, though. Broussard has visions of DNF being basically better than "perfect"; trying to get every single feature, bell, and whistle into the game somehow. Had he exercised better judgment, he'd have been able to realize when enough was enough...was too much. So we're both right, but in different ways. I pointed out that 3DR set the bar too high, but you brought to my attention that a better and more capable team would have lowered that bar.

Broussard had high standards, sure. But you have to remember Broussard had nothing to do with the release and last year of development. For all of his faults, he never would have let the game ship in the state it was in.

[Striker]

Nancsi, on 01 November 2016 - 03:56 PM, said:

Excellent patch. I don't think anything else is needed, except maybe the last boss bugfix.

Multiplayer is still broken as shit with more than 3 players.
Still no way to upload music or mods (GRPs/ART files) to the workshop.
Description is still cut off in the Workshop uploader
Change notes field in the Workshop uploader still doesn't work.
Babe Land still is unplayable online.

[AP Dukefan94]

So I have to ask: Do you get to carry over all your guns and equipment to each episode like in DN64 & the XBLA DN3D or does it end and go back to the main menu?

[Jolteon]

 Doom64hunter, on 02 November 2016 - 10:16 PM, said:

Also, they made all 5 bosses and the pigcop tank immune to flinching when hit by flamethrower projectiles.
(At least the hitstate isn't checked any more, which means that they also won't spawn blood or scrap when being hit by the flamethrower)

So that's what they change in the GAME.con

    ifhitweapon {
	  ifwasweapon FLAMETHROWERFLAME {
		nullop
	  }
      else {
		state checkboss1hitstate
      }
	}

I wonder if I should make an update for my bossfix pack, and Dawn of the Pork World Tour version to include this new piece of code.

[Fox]

That looks like prone to errors. If I am not mistaken, if you lower a boss health to zero with the flamethrower, they may become immortal.

[Jolteon]

 Fox, on 03 November 2016 - 09:10 PM, said:

That looks like prone to errors. If I am not mistaken, if you lower a boss health to zero with the flamethrower, they may become immortal.

I was starting to think about that actually. So pretty much if I'm not mistaken, they made things worse.

[MetHy]

Doesn't the Incinerator deal no damage to (mini)bosses ? I thought that was the entire reason of this new code.
The issue was, it dealt no damage, but it looked like it did. Now it doesn't look like it does anymore.

[Jolteon]

 MetHy, on 04 November 2016 - 12:37 AM, said:

Doesn't the Incinerator deal no damage to (mini)bosses ? I thought that was the entire reason of this new code.
The issue was, it dealt no damage, but it looked like it did. Now it doesn't look like it does anymore.

It does deal damage to the bosses, but it's not the Incinerator's fireballs, it's the FireFly Flamethrower (Or so I believe). After doing some testing with the old GAME.con (Or with a mod that based on the old GAME.con)...

(Yes I was using cheats this time to test this out)

They can actually get hurt from the Flamethrower. So Fox is right, this new code can make Bosses immortal if hit too much with the Flamethrower.

[NightFright]

So, time for another bugfix... when will Gearbox finally use someone who actually knows something about con coding?

[FistMarine]

This bug reminds me of the bug from Nuclear Winter expansion, where if Flying Frosty gets hurt enough times by Freezethrower, it will become invincible.

[Hank]

 NightFright, on 04 November 2016 - 07:31 AM, said:

So, time for another bugfix... when will Gearbox finally use someone who actually knows something about con coding?

... and they may want to, start at least, making the End Boss work.

last map, Hollywood ??
a. The cycloid mini bosses, at the tunnel, kill them self shooting at the cars trying to hit me.
b. and the End Boss on top, walks a bit more now, but is still no threat to the player. And I ain't no good to begin with. Me == Old Fart

Please note, I don't use the flame thrower. It's ineffective for me. And no need, the maps provide sufficient ammo from 'conventional' weapons.
Once you have the shrinker for example, one good shot at the mini Battle Lord and you can step on it.

added
This image shows the two mini Bosses from point a.


I did not fire one shot at the dead one.
The second one behind the car will fire at me, and it too will be killed by its own weapon, shooting at the 'car' while aiming at me.
This may be a minor oversight, but it hints, that no one play tested the maps.

[MetHy]

 NightFright, on 04 November 2016 - 07:31 AM, said:

So, time for another bugfix... when will Gearbox finally use someone who actually knows something about con coding?

That's not fair, it sounds like a glitch very unlikely to happen and an easy oversight. Besides the original game too has this kind of stuff, like shrunk enemies that don't grow back and act normally.

[Doom64hunter]

I just noticed that the Firefly actually does use the crouching state - and fires standard Trooper Firelasers when it does so.

[Jolteon]

Confirmed:

I used the updated GAME.con and made a map with a Battlelord and a Firefly. I hurted the Battlelord a bit then let the Firefly hurt him some more to finish him off, and when that happened he became immortal. Oh Gearbox, You like to screw things up don't you.

 Doom64hunter, on 04 November 2016 - 10:22 AM, said:

I just noticed that the Firefly actually does use the crouching state - and fires standard Trooper Firelasers when it does so.

This had happened to me a few times actually, it's a rare occurrence. I've made a post on this a while back.

 Jolteon, on 13 October 2016 - 05:24 PM, said:

firefly.png

It seems as though Fireflies can duck, but it was a rare occurrence though. I'm not sure but I think I saw them firing the normal lasers while ducking like lizard troopers though instead of a flamethrower (It did looked like it though, but it was hard to tell since the lizard troopers were around).

[Hank]

a shot from my fav map of World Tour

Why post it? Just because.

[Steve 64]

is that a problem mini shrinking super fast?

[MetHy]

Someone's uploading Duke It Out in DC on the workshop.

[NightFright]

Oh God, please no...