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Jblade

#31 Posted 27 March 2016 - 08:42 AM

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This game suffered from the "instant hitscan damage on sight" enemies, which isn't too surprising because the devs made Kingpin, Redneck Rampage, and Quake 2: Ground Zero (which featured the hardest final boss in the Quake series).

Yeah I kinda noticed this among Xatrix games myself! I think RTCW was generally better than the older ones but all of their stuff suffers from this in general (The last boss was hard unless you horded power-ups, in which case if I remember right the double damage actually stacked with the quad damage if you had both on)

Also yeah the undead had weird hitboxes, I think maybe the problem was their animations had them ducking and moving but maybe their hitboxes didn't move the same so getting headshots was really hard at times.

leilei

#32 Posted 27 March 2016 - 09:33 AM

I disliked RTCW and all the overblown innovative-franchise-anniversary hype it had when it came out. The wolftest was also dissapointing, felt like a q3 Day of Defeat mod with a minigun and a flamethrower. (Day of Defeat had just hit beta 1.0 a few months earlier and featured similar territorial control gameplay and even a better war atmosphere)

(much preferred and enjoyed MOHAA after but that's not a wolf game and doesn't belong here)

Should also mention I moved on from Wolfenstein 3D as soon as I played Doom. I had zero interest to replay Wolf3d since. I still have zero interest. 2D maze with only bullets just didn't hold any interest for me anymore. No nostalgia goggles going on here.

I might play TNO soon. I'm expecting that to be better than RTCW.

This post has been edited by leilei: 27 March 2016 - 09:42 AM

MetHy

#33 Posted 27 March 2016 - 09:44 AM

TNO is good as an introduction for TOB's greatness.

This post has been edited by MetHy: 27 March 2016 - 09:44 AM

deuxsonic

#34 Posted 27 March 2016 - 10:53 AM

PikaCommando, on 27 March 2016 - 08:31 AM, said:

According to Wikipedia, there was supposed to be more missions where you fight with the undeads (no citations though, anyone got source on that), but they were brought back in the PS2 version as the Egypt episode. I'm glad things turned out the way it is, because the undead enemies were a huge waste of ammo with their weird hitboxes and being immune to damage when playing animations, like all the other enemies. Also, the Nazi babes were a serious pain in the ass to deal with the first time they appear. This game suffered from the "instant hitscan damage on sight" enemies, which isn't too surprising because the devs made Kingpin, Redneck Rampage, and Quake 2: Ground Zero (which featured the hardest final boss in the Quake series).

Also, can anyone beat the second boss without taking much damage? I know the "correct" way to beat it, but I still had to resort to exploiting its AI which made it stay in one place while I snipe it behind thin railings.

FG-42 is love, FG-42 is life.

Ground Zero was not developed by Xatrix/Grey Matter but Rogue who developed Strife and Dissolution of Eternity. The Reckoning, which Xatrix did develop, had the same very easy boss fight as the main game because other than the Gekks, all the "new" enemies were just variations on the originals and overall the whole mission pack was very easy. Ground Zero is definitely more difficult, in large part due to the turrets which are everywhere and fire on you instantly, giving you no time to react so you have to memorize where they all are. Even on Nightmare skill the Black Widow at the end of Ground Zero is not too difficult as long as you keep moving though.

This post has been edited by deuxsonic: 27 March 2016 - 10:59 AM

PikaCommando

#35 Posted 27 March 2016 - 10:54 AM

deuxsonic, on 27 March 2016 - 10:53 AM, said:

Woops, forgot about that. Nerve Software AKA Rogue Entertainment did work on the MP side of the game as well as the Egypt section of the PS2/Xbox port. Also, there's the Phalanx Guardian that was a pain in the ass to deal with. Oh, and I can never forget how often turrets kill me as soon as I walk into a new section. It's impossible to not take damage without save scumming or knowing about it beforehand. Either way, I bet Rogue/Nerve had some say in the SP portion of RtCW :V

Also, I don't think it's fair to compare Day of Defeat with WolfMP/WolfET. DoD is more like WWII Counter-Strike whereas WolfMP/WolfET is more like WWII Team Fortress. Gotta love them air strikes with the Lieutenant/Field Ops class in Wolfenstein. WolfET had that campaign mode thingy where you play 3 maps in succession to win the overall campaign, which was a pretty neat idea. A lot of people disliked the level up system, but I think it's perfect for casual play.

Also, any WWII multiplayer shooter with an Omaha map is a good WWII MP shooter in my eyes. Luckily, they both had them in the form of dod_charlie for DoD and mp_beach/battery for WolfMP/Wolf ET respectively. Shame on DoD:Source for not bringing back dod_charlie.

MoH: AA's multiplayer is nothing special though, just regular DM with standard gameplay, except with WWII stuff.

This post has been edited by PikaCommando: 27 March 2016 - 11:42 PM

Duke of Hazzard

#36 Posted 16 April 2016 - 12:33 PM

Is there any actual advantage in running RTCW with a source port like iortcw? Vanilla does run on later Windows versions, only lacking widescreen support. iortcw adds a few bells and whistles but I wonder how significant the improvements are.

LkMax

#37 Posted 16 April 2016 - 01:16 PM

I've never heard of it but seems to be just a port to ios.

leilei

#38 Posted 16 April 2016 - 02:40 PM

it's generally a stripping to SDL (which may/may not have an adverse affect on input depending on your platform) and some paranoid buffer overflow fixes to keep the debians happy, plus aggressive "modern standard" marketing - Your usual Quakeforge in a source liberation cycle.

Personally I'd use Knightmare's rtcw port since that does the wides, though in a less mod friendly way (it does it in cgame as opposed to the renderer).

This post has been edited by leilei: 16 April 2016 - 02:46 PM

Duke of Hazzard

#39 Posted 16 April 2016 - 04:41 PM

leilei, on 16 April 2016 - 02:40 PM, said:

Personally I'd use Knightmare's rtcw port since that does the wides, though in a less mod friendly way (it does it in cgame as opposed to the renderer).

Yeah I only drifted to iortcw because Knightmare's was making the game not load (I'm using the Steam version), which made me have a lot of "empty" hours in RTCW on Steam. But other people have had more success with it.

MusicallyInspired

The Sarien Encounter

#40 Posted 18 April 2016 - 07:58 AM

There's an easy way to enable widescreen in vanilla with some cfg entries like any other Q3 (idtech 4?) or D3 engine game. The sprites, menus, and HUD are all stretched, but the game world is true widescreen at least.

DukeNukem64

#41 Posted 07 June 2016 - 10:18 PM

http://www.pcgamer.c...=buffer_pcgamer

Not surprising but.. News anyways regarding the franchise

HulkNukem

#42 Posted 07 June 2016 - 10:51 PM

Prey 2 and Wolfenstein sequel, can't wait.
I wonder what Wolfenstein will entail story wise? With the ending of TNO and all

Lunick

#43 Posted 07 June 2016 - 10:58 PM

How much is Bethesda gonna show at E3? We have Prey 2, Dishonoured 2, The Evil Within 2, supposedly Skyrim Remastered and Wolfenstein too? I'm skeptical.