[MusicallyInspired]

Radar, on 31 July 2019 - 04:47 AM, said:

But then they have to pay for logistics and packaging. Digital downloads clearly save money.

It MAKES money because they usually sell it for the same price as a retail package (obviously not the FE here) but without the overhead costs. Some people blame that on inflation, I just think that's a convenient excuse. Especially when indie games are making pennies on digital sales and Humble Bundles (if anything).

This has nothing to do with the conversation about pre-pre-ordering I know.

[Radar]

By "saves" money, I meant it saves money in production, ergo exactly what you're saying.

[oasiz]

When the whole pre-order was started, we absolutely had no idea how well the game would even do/ sell / be received tbh.
This project was practically near death/cancellation quite a few times, only fuelled by a ragtag group of modders who refused to stop despite things looking pretty grim at times.
Big box was considered for a long time but even then it was very uncertain.

Maybe better handled next time but we're just really happy things turned out the way they did.

[Jimmy]

It's nothing you guys did specifically. You followed industry standard really. It's just the new norm.

[TerminX]

BlitZ, on 30 July 2019 - 06:12 PM, said:

Yeah man, I really hate this "pledge ahead of time, pay at a set time or you'll never have another chance to buy this" culture that is taking over games.

The other option is for the physical product to simply not exist. The Founder's Edition is limited because they cost a bunch of money to produce and we don't really make much on them.

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Not everyone is made out of fucking money and can make a six month ahead of time frivolous financial decision.

Okay, now apply this logic from our perspective and try to understand why we only made as many as we knew we were going to sell.

[cybdmn]

TerminX, on 02 August 2019 - 10:43 AM, said:

The other option is for the physical product to simply not exist. The Founder's Edition is limited because they cost a bunch of money to produce and we don't really make much on them.


Okay, now apply this logic from our perspective and try to understand why we only made as many as we knew we were going to sell.

Some people have no clue, how much it cost to produce a box like this in smaller quantities. To pay, last time i researched for something like this, $200 for the glass master, and something around $1 per copy. Plus Printing for manual and box, packaging, and in the case of the founders edition the toys. In the end, you are in risk of losing a lot of cash, if it didn't work.
I think everything is okay with this. No matter what, there will always be someone who can not afford or plan to have the money, simply as that. And in the case of the FE nothing was charged at order, we had to pay now, when the release date is fixed.

[Danukem]

Yeah I wouldn't bother with physical copies tbh. Not only is there the risk of losing money, but it's a distraction and could take time away from developing the game for something that's a different kind of business.

[cosmonautcowboy]

raja302, on 25 July 2019 - 09:29 PM, said:

Any chance we'll see the founder's edition back on sale?

I just canceled mine, so there's another one potentially available.

[raja302]

cosmonautcowboy, on 02 August 2019 - 03:02 PM, said:

I just canceled mine, so there's another one potentially available.

Any chance I could get in on this?

[MusicallyInspired]

Man I almost wish I wasn't going to PAX.

[Jimmy]

TerminX, on 02 August 2019 - 10:43 AM, said:

The other option is for the physical product to simply not exist. The Founder's Edition is limited because they cost a bunch of money to produce and we don't really make much on them.


Okay, now apply this logic from our perspective and try to understand why we only made as many as we knew we were going to sell.

Read my following posts. I know how it works.

It was the job of a publisher to front this kind of money at one time. Not sure what publishers really even do anymore except make zillions of dollars off other people's work.

[The Kins]

BlitZ, on 03 August 2019 - 10:14 AM, said:

Not sure what publishers really even do anymore except make zillions of dollars off other people's work.

Fronting money, setting (and enforcing) timetables, manning the PR cannons, talking to other human beings and other things programmers are historically famously bad at.

[Kyanos]

The Kins, on 03 August 2019 - 10:59 AM, said:

Fronting money, setting (and enforcing) timetables, manning the PR cannons, talking to other human beings and other things programmers are historically famously bad at.

The difference between a publisher and a pimp?

Spoiler

[TerminX]

BlitZ, on 03 August 2019 - 10:14 AM, said:

It was the job of a publisher to front this kind of money at one time. Not sure what publishers really even do anymore except make zillions of dollars off other people's work.

Yes, that's how we were able to afford to produce 500 copies with actual properly designed and manufactured items.

[razgriz]

I bought the early access does that mean I still get the full version next week?

I'll be on vacation though.

[Lunick]

razgriz, on 06 August 2019 - 03:20 PM, said:

I bought the early access does that mean I still get the full version next week?

I'll be on vacation though.

Yes, buying Early Access of any Steam title always gives you the final game

[NightFright]

But please, don't forget the guys that bought the 3DR version. And we hope to also receive game updates in a timely manner. It's understandable Steam will always be first, but it'd be nice if it didn't take weeks for the 3DR release to catch up.

[John Brown]

Same for the GOG version buyers.

[NightFright]

For now, I'll settle for IF being available on the 3DR website on Aug 15 (provided that's still the release date). Otherwise I will probably go bonkers.

[TerminX]

NightFright, on 09 August 2019 - 10:51 AM, said:

For now, I'll settle for IF being available on the 3DR website on Aug 15 (provided that's still the release date). Otherwise I will probably go bonkers.

That's still the release date.

[MusicallyInspired]

The calm before the storm...

[NightFright]

The Ion Storm, you mean? 😋

[Jim]

I wanted to ask, will Ion fury support texture filtering? I prefer the smooth graphics, so I ask before I buy.

[MusicallyInspired]

The early demo did have it but it seems to be removed now.

[Truck Stop Santa Claus]

Can't wait for the Civvie 11 & LGR video

[NightFright]

I know I will keep the 3DR website open at work on Friday just to make sure I am not missing the release.

At least for me this is a lot bigger as if World Tour and Sigil had been published together.

[NNC]

Truck Stop Santa Claus, on 09 August 2019 - 07:24 PM, said:

Can't wait for the Civvie 11 & LGR video

Why the fuck people care about these self proclaimed important vloggers?

[TerminX]

The Watchtower, on 10 August 2019 - 11:17 AM, said:

Why the fuck people care about these self proclaimed important vloggers?

Because people like the content they produce?

[Echelon5]

The Watchtower, on 10 August 2019 - 11:17 AM, said:

Why the fuck people care about these self proclaimed important vloggers?

Nah dude, those two guys are really cool and make fun and informative vids. They're not like the standard shitheaded "influencers," they do it for the passion.

[NightFright]

I like Civvie's style in general. His complete destruction of Bill Shatner's Tek War is absolutely brilliant. But he is funnier if he doesn't like a game. I strongly assume he'll enjoy IF, though. He'd better.