[NightFright]

Both the 817/818 improvements and the new maphack have been committed.
You can also download updated maphacks from link below, the new hack is included there for immediate testing/usage.

[Micky C]

e2l4 done





Edit: the second picture looks almost identical to how it should in classic mode with regards to that red light.

[bullerbullerseven]

The ceiling of the first picture really looks good. This makes my maps look like crap without polymer lol.

[NightFright]

Maphack added to SVN, download link below updated.

[NightFright]

Polymer lights for E2L6 by Micky C added to maphacks, download below.

[fgsfds]

Slightly improved chaingun model and textures. The top now looks a little better.
Also, maybe someone will ask on Gearbox forum or somewhere else permission to use textures from xbla? They look really awesome. I think that Gearbox will not mind.

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[Master Fibbles]

The XBLA "textures" are the same textures as the original game, aren't they? I haven't played it but my understanding is they took (without giving full credit) the stuff from jfduke and eduke to make the binary work on the Xbox OS. None of the game content was altered.

[OpenMaw]

Mr.Flibble, on 19 April 2011 - 04:15 PM, said:

The XBLA "textures" are the same textures as the original game, aren't they? I haven't played it but my understanding is they took (without giving full credit) the stuff from jfduke and eduke to make the binary work on the Xbox OS. None of the game content was altered.

None of the game content was changed.

[fgsfds]

I meant logos and loading screens.
http://forums.duke4....3586#entry43586

[Tea Monster]

The last time I checked, all the alt pal files are still in for the critters.

Also, why aren't we using Millenia's hand model in the HUD?

[Roma Loom]

Tea Monster, on 22 April 2011 - 05:48 AM, said:

Also, why aren't we using Millenia's hand model in the HUD?

Nobody wants to play with 3ds max files higher than 2008 version :trollface:

[Plagman]

Is it better than Parkar's new hand model? I think Roma Loom compared them and thought the latter was better.

[Tea Monster]

These are the two hands. I know Roma said something about it needing smoothing groups in Max, so maybe he has a better version than the one I have.

But here are the two hands. Millenias looks better (IMO). The only real problem with it is that there is a seam up running around the base of it. In most cases you won't see it though.

[Plagman]

Is that seam the same problem as the seam Roma Loom was talking about? I think it's currently in the hand model on the RPG that's checked in, though that might have changed recently. Does the seam go away if you disable normal mapping?

[Tea Monster]

No, the seams are on all three textures. I did find a problem with duplicated verts that made the problem look worse. Now that they are gone, its generally a lot less noticeable.


Roma, what did you fix on the other one?

[Micky C]

I've done about half the lighting for e2l8 (I'm leaving e2l7 until last) but don't expect it anytime soon. It's a big level and I'm getting swamped down with other things again.
But here's a screenshot:


It looks even better in-game with ambiant light turned right down.

Edit: I decided to finish it afterall and should be included with the other maphacks shortly. I did something different this time with the lights, I gave everything a uniform dark shade which is what I'm told Parker did for e1l1 and did all the lighting from scratch. Needless to say it'd look a lot better if all the sector lighting was removed for this level, but it should look ok anyway.

[Tea Monster]

NEW LUNAR OVERLORD
Model by Jean Gorospe Skins by Jean Gorospe and Tea Monster
Brought to you by Mr. Green who contacted Jean, commissioned the critter and 'herded' him back to the HRP - Many thanks!





GET SOME

[Spiker]

Tea Monster, on 28 April 2011 - 06:03 AM, said:

NEW LUNAR OVERLORD

Awesome work there!

[NightFright]

Polymer lights for E2L8 by Micky C added to maphacks, download below.
The new Overlord model has been added to SVN with build #248.

[fgsfds]

Great model, but why in def is written

skin { pal 0 surface 1 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_tech_d.png" specpower 2 specfactor 2 }
specular { file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_d_s.png" }
normal { file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_tech_n.png" parallaxbias 0.1 parallaxscale 0.1 }

Maybe it should be 2760_overlord_tech_s?


Also, after CORNFEDSPACEFROGPURCHASEAGRICULTURALREALESTATE textures for rocket and overlord_tech are defined, but they are already defined in the beginning. And surface numbers for speculars and normals aren't specified.
I think def should look like this:

// Lunar Overlord (2760)
model "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord.md3" {
  scale 45 shade 2

  skin { pal 0 surface 0 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_rocket.png" }
  glow { surface 0 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_rocket.png" }

  skin { pal 0 surface 1 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_tech_d.png" specpower 2 specfactor 2 } 
  specular { surface 1 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_tech_s.png" }
  normal { surface 1 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_tech_n.png" parallaxbias 0.1 parallaxscale 0.1  }

  skin { pal 0 surface 2 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_d.png" specpower 2 specfactor 2 }
  specular { surface 2 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_s.png" }
  normal { surface 2 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_n.png" parallaxbias 0.1 parallaxscale 0.1 }
  glow { surface 2 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_g.png" }

  // CORNFEDSPACEFROGWALKING
  anim { frame0 "frame_1" frame1 "frame_20" fps 22 flags 0 }   
  frame { name "frame_1" tile0 2760 tile1 2779 smoothduration 0.2 }
  
  // CORNFEDSPACEFROGIDLE
  anim { frame0 "frame_25" frame1 "frame_30" fps 10 flags 0 }  
  frame { name "frame_25" tile0 2780 tile1 2789 smoothduration 0.3 }
  
  // CORNFEDSPACEFROGDODGETHIS
  anim { frame0 "frame_35" frame1 "frame_40" fps 10 flags 0 }  
  frame { name "frame_35" tile0 2790 tile1 2799 smoothduration 0.2 }
  
  // CORNFEDSPACEFROGPURCHASEAGRICULTURALREALESTATE
  skin { pal 0 surface 2 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_pain_d.png" specpower 2 specfactor 2 }
  specular { surface 2 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_pain_s.png" }
  normal { surface 2 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_n.png" parallaxbias 0.1 parallaxscale 0.1  }
  
  anim { frame0 "frame_50" frame1 "frame_80" fps 12 flags 1 }
  frame { name "frame_50" tile0 2800 tile1 2809 smoothduration 0.3 }}

[Tea Monster]

It should read like you suggested for the spec line. I'd fixed that earlier today. I must have grabbed an earlier version when I put the release together.

Those are good suggestions for the surface numbers. I'd forgotten to put them in on the file.

Thanks for spotting it!

[fgsfds]

One more glitch. Rockets look transparent.

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[Tea Monster]

No, those are the flames from the rockets launching

[NightFright]

Fixes for monsters.def added in build #249.

[fgsfds]

What is the 2760_overlord_bio_d_s.png? It isn't used.
And ice model is broken:
Invalid frame name on line highres/sprites/ice.def:99

[NightFright]

empyrock, on 28 April 2011 - 03:20 PM, said:

What is the 2760_overlord_bio_d_s.png? It isn't used.
And ice model is broken:
Invalid frame name on line highres/sprites/ice.def:99

ice.def was still not adjusted to the new model. I had forgotten about that, sorry. Scale, skin and frame defs have been modified and should work now with SVN build #250. As frozen skin, I went for the pain skin (2760_overlord_bio_pain_d) since you have to damage the boss considerably before you can freeze him. I have also removed the obviously not needed specular map. In case it is needed after all, still got a backup here.

Still, I dunno if these two lines still belong in there:

// Frozen Moon Overlord (2760)
model "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord.md3" {
scale 45 shade 2
skin { surface 0 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2630_muzzle.png" }
skin { surface 1 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2630_muzzle.png" }
skin { surface 2 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_pain_d.png" }
frame { pal 1 name "frame_1" tile 2760 }
}

They look outdated to me since I find them nowhere on the original model. They might also just be placeholders which are not used at all. I have no idea if this works anyway, still have to check it ingame.

[fgsfds]

Of course, these strings aren't needed. Textures should be the same as for the main model.

  skin { pal 0 surface 0 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_rocket.png" }
  glow { surface 0 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_rocket.png" }

  skin { pal 0 surface 1 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_tech_d.png" specpower 2 specfactor 2 } 
  specular { surface 1 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_tech_s.png" }
  normal { surface 1 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_tech_n.png" parallaxbias 0.1 parallaxscale 0.1  }

  skin { pal 0 surface 2 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_d.png" specpower 2 specfactor 2 }
  specular { surface 2 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_s.png" }
  normal { surface 2 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_n.png" parallaxbias 0.1 parallaxscale 0.1 }
  glow { surface 2 file "highres/sprites/monsters/2760_overlord_bio_g.png" }

But I do not understand why do we need ice defs for bosses if we can't freeze them (except battlelord) and don't have "ice" skins for them?

[Micky C]

The minibosses can be frozen, and don't highpalookups take care of the frozen 'skins'?

[NightFright]

Well except for the Battlelord, all other bosses don't use skins from the "ice" subdir, but use their own. I never managed to freeze a boss, just the Battlelord Sentry, I think.

I have hopefully fixed ice.def for Lunar Overlord for good now. All I did was to remove the glowmaps (no frozen models have them) and delete the "pal 0" parts (those are for pal 1). Should work - if you ever manage to freeze this guy.

[fgsfds]

I think you can completely remove defs for overlord and cycloid. But let's wait for what more skilled guys will tell.