[Plagman]

It means that the Polymer HRP isn't compatible with Polymost, not that Polymost has been abandoned.

[Green]

[fgsfds]

Why you don't use Millenia's chaingun model? If no one works on it already I can finish it. Is it worth?

[Plagman]

Yeah, definitely. I think the only thing missing is the little green heads-up display thingy. Also, Roma Loom mentioned that Parkar's hand model was intended to use with a level of meshsmooth, the base level is a little too rough around the edges.

[fgsfds]

I think that the main texture is ready, but I can't make texture with fire flashes.
Here is a comparison:
http://screenshotcom...omparison/35295
Also there is green and orange fonts based on new 13d redfont.

[Micky C]

It looks pretty good, I can't wait for it (and the other next gen hud weapons) to be put in the HRP

[fgsfds]

Also I have a problem with shells box model in polymer.

[Tea Monster]

If you can get Millenia's chaingun in, that would be great, I'm snowed under at the moment. Surely all it needs is a screen? That wouldn't take too long to do.

I was going to use Millenia's hands for the chaingun and the pistol as I thought they looked better (no offence to Parkar).

I've got a shotgun shell model that I'll get together later, but again, way too much other stuff on at the moment.

[Tea Monster]

I can do the screen and the texture bake, PM me if you are going ahead with this.

Deeper Thought wanted to gather a group of people to continue work on the Polymost HRP. You may want to contact him and see what he has in mind.

[Danukem]

Tea Monster, on Mar 13 2011, 05:55 AM, said:

Deeper Thought wanted to gather a group of people to continue work on the Polymost HRP. You may want to contact him and see what he has in mind.

WTF? I never said anything like that. In fact I have been saying the opposite.

[Tea Monster]

Sorry, I thought you did.

[Fidchell]

Can someone help me out? I installed the HRP pack and I'm getting those white blocks. I know someone else already discussed this problem, but I really don't know what you mean by "disabling HRP." How do you do this exactly?

[Micky C]

For f*ck's sake: http://forums.duke4....?showtopic=3210

If you can't be bothered reading through that, download the latest eduke32: http://dukeworld.duk.../20110313-1844/
One of the eduke32 developers got so fed up with hundreds of questions like you one you just asked, so he permanently disabled the feature that causes that glitch on ATI cards. You'd barely notice any difference in game, it just helped to smooth textures a bit so its harder to see the pixels, which isn't a big deal if you're starting off with high res textures in the first place. If you desperately want that feature, buy an nVidia card.

Basically the latest eduke32 will solve your problem.

[Scrooge]

Micky C, on Mar 14 2011, 09:39 AM, said:

For f*ck's sake: http://forums.duke4....?showtopic=3210

If you can't be bothered reading through that, download the latest eduke32: http://dukeworld.duk.../20110313-1844/
One of the eduke32 developers got so fed up with hundreds of questions like you one you just asked, so he permanently disabled the feature that causes that glitch on ATI cards. You'd barely notice any difference in game, it just helped to smooth textures a bit so its harder to see the pixels, which isn't a big deal if you're starting off with high res textures in the first place. If you desperately want that feature, buy an nVidia card.

Basically the latest eduke32 will solve your problem.

Well, as for me it solved the problem so well that it is no longer able to load a std level properly, causing out of memory error.
Ex "The Birth" lvl 1. Me, not THAT happy. Oh, and BTW, you loose the on-disk texture cache too.

EDuke32 2.0.0devel r1845
Compiled Mar 14 2011 10:40:47
Using D:/Games/Duke3D/ for game data
Windows Vista (build 6.0.6002) Service Pack 2
Initializing DirectDraw...
Searching for game data...
Using 'duke3d.grp' as main game data file.
Using file 'autoload/duke3d_soundtrack_true_midi_sound_sc55.zip' as game data.
Using file 'autoload/maphacks.zip' as game data.
Using file 'autoload/polymer_hrp185.zip' as game data.
Compiling: GAME.CON (151190 bytes)
Including: DEFS.CON (35992 bytes)
Including: USER.CON (45482 bytes)
GAME.CON: In actor `ORGANTIC':
GAME.CON:3968: warning: found `else' with no `if'.
GAME.CON: In state `pigshootenemystate':
GAME.CON:5891: warning: found `else' with no `if'.
Found 2 warning(s), 0 error(s).
Resizing code buffer to 16187*4 bytes
Script compiled in 35ms, 16179*4b, version 1.4+
1918/11264 labels, 321/2048 variables
125 quotes, 207 actors
Initialized 24.0M cache
Loading 'duke3d.def'
Warning: defined hightile replacement for empty tile 9000. Maybe some tilesXXX.art are not loaded?
Warning: defined hightile replacement for empty tile 9001.
Definitions file 'duke3d.def' loaded.
RTS file DUKE.RTS was not found
Initializing OSD...
Switching kb layout from 0000040C to 00000409
Initializing DirectInput...
  - Enumerating attached game controllers
  - No game controllers found
Uninitializing DirectInput...
Executing "settings.cfg"
Disabling desktop composition...
Setting video mode 1280x800 (32-bit fullscreen)
Enabling ATI FBO color attachment workaround.
Enabling ATI R520 polygon offset workaround.
OpenGL Information:
 Version:  2.1.8545 Release
 Vendor:   ATI Technologies Inc.
 Renderer: Radeon X1900 MOBILITY
Initializing Polymer subsystem...
PR : Initialization complete.
Initializing music...
Initializing sound...
Enabling ATI FBO color attachment workaround.
Enabling ATI R520 polygon offset workaround.
Initializing Polymer subsystem...
PR : Initialization complete.
WARNING: slowdown in logo.anm, skipping playback
Warning: the GL driver lacks necessary functions to use caching
Load tile 2492: p0-m4-e0 highres/screen/menu/2492_version.png... 287 ms
Enabling ATI FBO color attachment workaround.
Enabling ATI R520 polygon offset workaround.
Initializing Polymer subsystem...
PR : Initialization complete.
Load tile 2492: p0-m4-e0 highres/screen/menu/2492_version.png... 380 ms
Load tile 2493: p0-m4-e0 highres/screen/menu/2493.jpg... 481 ms
Load tile 3281: p0-m4-e0 highres/screen/menu/3281.jpg... 275 ms
Load tile 2456: p0-m4-e0 highres/screen/menu/2456.jpg... 147 ms
Load tile 2499: p0-m4-e0 highres/screen/menu/2499.png... 11 ms
Load tile 1141: p4-m4-e0 highres/textures/1141.png... 19 ms
...
...
Load tile 1679: p6-m4-e3 ... 24 ms
Load tile 1679: p251-m4-e9 ... 23 ms
Failed loading skin file "highres/sprites/monsters/1680_trooper_skin_color.png": error -1
OUT OF MEMORY in daskinloader!
Uninitializing DirectDraw...

[Helixhorned]

Plagman has said that on-disk cache is intimately tied to texture compression, so you're out of luck with Polymer it seems. Try starting the game with Polymost (untick the "Polymer" box).

[Tea Monster]

Hey, guys, I had this problem with my graphics card, the fan died so I have to make do with my crappy on-board ATI HD2000 series graphics card. I started up Duke and there was the darndest thing, all the sprites turned up as white boxes. Do you think I should start a thread about this?

[The Commander]

Just press space to skip the texture loading.

[LeoD]

Tea Monster, on Mar 14 2011, 09:23 PM, said:

Hey, guys, I had this problem with my graphics card, the fan died so I have to make do with my crappy on-board ATI HD2000 series graphics card. I started up Duke and there was the darndest thing, all the sprites turned up as white boxes. Do you think I should start a thread about this?

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[Tea Monster]

LOL, That really did happen today. I do know about the problem and I know what to do about it. I was just teasing about starting a thread.

It sucks as it means no Duking till the fan gets replaced (Hopefully it's just the fan). Thank F*CK I get paid before the 6th!

[Plagman]

Helixhorned, on Mar 14 2011, 01:18 PM, said:

Plagman has said that on-disk cache is intimately tied to texture compression, so you're out of luck with Polymer it seems. Try starting the game with Polymost (untick the "Polymer" box).

Polymer should function fine without either of these, though. It just looks like he's running out of memory for other reasons; try dropping the high-res texture quality slider a notch. I also see that Polymer got initialized twice for some reason, so it looks like you switched modes or something similar. Try not doing that as it's pretty leak-prone, especially on drivers that don't garbage collect GL objects.

[freak nukem]

Hi im new,first of i want to say congratz for making duke nukem 3d better with the HRP and the POLYMER.
Secondly ive been playing this game with those upgrades and there are still a fews things that are not finished.

level - Babe Land : a fews of the pirates robots models are still in 2d ( the dog,the pirate with the leg in is hand,the slaves,the babe with guns and the 2 sword fighting pirate babes.)

level- Pigsty : the group of hanged man in the conference room.

I know that all of you are busy with the polymer and a fews other things,it's just that seeing a fews things still not finished make the game a little bit incomplete.
And it would be nice to make a better sprinkling water when you destroy a toilet or a fire hydrant.

Thank you and have a great time.

[E.C.S]

First, Welcome to this place, enjoy the stay . Second, The HRP is in constants updates, so, there are things still in 2-D, but don't worry, just you need to wait.

[bullerbullerseven]

Welcome to the forums. You might want to know that it's not "all of us" that are working on the polymer. It's more like one or 2 people that works on one project. Then we all do different things. That's why things are taking so long

[freak nukem]

Thank you,and i just wanna say that it's been at least almost one year since i checked for new things with the hrp,i though that by that time at least somebody could have done some of the others models.the hrp need seriously an update.

[Micky C]

freak nukem, on Mar 15 2011, 03:29 PM, said:

Thank you,and i just wanna say that it's been at least almost one year since i checked for new things with the hrp,i though that by that time at least somebody could have done some of the others models.the hrp need seriously an update.

You're definitely playing with the latest HRP right? Check this thread to figure out how to make sure you always have the latest stuff: http://forums.duke4....?showtopic=2251
A lot of the work recently has been to make the textures next-gen, i.e with normal and specular maps and all those things that make them look 3D and have realistic light reflections. IMO these things are more important than having a few hardly used models worked on. Also we're redoing most of the weapons to make them look more modern as well. But hopefully one day everything will be finished to a reasonable degree.

[Tea Monster]

Thanks for the comments, it's much appreciated.

[freak nukem]

oh ok,i was wonderin what the hell were you workin on right now,thank for the informations.

[Scrooge]

Plagman, on Mar 14 2011, 11:57 PM, said:

Polymer should function fine without either of these, though. It just looks like he's running out of memory for other reasons; try dropping the high-res texture quality slider a notch. I also see that Polymer got initialized twice for some reason, so it looks like you switched modes or something similar. Try not doing that as it's pretty leak-prone, especially on drivers that don't garbage collect GL objects.

Well, I tried to decrease the texture quality, and that was much better, looks like even 256MB is no longer sufficient for full quality.
(I had highpal lookups activated, wasn't it supposed to improve memory usage ?)

Not using disk cache at all is even faster in initial loading. Of course, the problem is the remaining online loads, that turns the game to a halt, but that was the same thing with discache on when first encountered, so...

On point though : is the texture quality slider not a bit too harsh ? I mean, "dropping the high-res texture quality slider a notch" looks like all dimensions of textures are / 2, which leads to 4 times less memory, fine. Problem is, the quality goes from "exellent" to "semi-crap" (especially the menus
Maybe some more moderate resize would be better, or more intermediate steps, especially if more ATI users turn to use them with the lack of texture compression. Of course, that concerns 3years+ card owners like me, not 1GB owners out there, I imagine.



Edit:
I sads me to say that, but the gameplay is indeed MUCH better without disk cache, go figure.
Even the online loads are invisible. Was the GL re-compression so slow that it was in fact respnsible of most of the online freezes ?
Also, the texture aspect is a deal better using "LINEAR" filter instead of "TRILINEAR", but I would still appreciate more choices in texture quality.

Finally it turns out that ATI texture compression removal was A Good Thing ™, at least for me. Wow.

[Roma Loom]

Would it be possible or impossible to attach a hardcoded light src to the hud to lit the hand and the barrel when muzzle flash is active:

[fgsfds]

I think the chaingun model is ready to use.
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